How then, do you explain the United States? Unencumbered means without the distortions that governments bring to the markets when they go beyond simple police powers.
Do you believe today's market, twisted and contorted by massive government interference is unencumbered?
Are you denying your socialist tendency?
How can anyone be free who depends on the government for health care?
Sigh. Students.
Do you believe it is possible to appear wise without taking any effort to achieve wisdom?
(chuckle)
I'm 55 years old. My life's experience afforded me the wisdom to start thinking about my long term future when I turned 21 and joined the Teamster's Union. Having then reached the age of 50 in 2007, and knowing that in less than a year I could retire making as much money playing on the internet as I did working, I planned to retire and continue my education; which I'm doing now.
So, again; reason wins over prejudice every time.
Think - research - engage
I agree with some of what you're saying, however Health exams as such do go on at colleges, but should not be the practice of everyday health. There are many nurse pratisioners etc that can set bones, deliver babies and things like that who have been practicing for a number of years and are a good choice for those who desire a less formal participation, but to lower the standards by which medicine operates is disaster waiting to happen.
You're trying to lower the participation of federal and state government and we have seen over and over again that less regulation only increses hardship for others.
Retired at 50? My God...That is part of the problem that unions give us.
j-mac
Do you put 5% or more of your income into retirement - not counting FICA?Retired at 50? My God...That is part of the problem that unions give us.
Don't blame the union blame the failure it management to negotiate properly.
Do you put 5% or more of your income into retirement - not counting FICA?
Retired at 50? My God...That is part of the problem that unions give us.
j-mac
That is a benefit of union membership and propper planning. When I exited my position, there a good man to replace me and to continue his long range planning. Now, when I receive my degree and reenter the work force, my pension becomes an asset; capital gain if you will, which can be invested and passed on.
So, I think you're really just a bit shocked that union membership affords such things when a man puts his mind to it. This also reveals why teh right is trying to do away with teh current pension system in unions.
Not quite there Tex...See, when these large, generous pensions go insolvent then their cost gets passed on to me as a taxpayer...So hurry up and get back in the workforce, because I can't, nor do I want to subsidize your retirement.
j-mac
Retired at 50? My God...That is part of the problem that unions give us.
j-mac
BTW, are you suggesting that because someone works for the tax payer, they are not entitled to a decent benefit package? I don't mean just this person, who suggests you may get your money's worth in return, but those who retire after years of service?
Kind of like the age you can retire in the military.
I think being shot at defending this country, is just a little different from driving a truck.
j-mac
What? Wait...First off, I think he said he was a Teamster, not a Public Sector Union worker. Second, explain "entitled"...
j-mac
I admit I'm kind of blending all our conversations together, and did try to specify not his comment in particular. But someone who works for the taxpayer (and I did misread taxpayer in your comment, which makes your statement even less logical), which would include a lot of folks.
Here, let me help you out with a question....What happens to union pension programs when they go insolvent?
j-mac
Oh please. I have told it many times before, I grew up around plenty of UAW members in Lansing Mi. Closed shops, walk outs, pressure tactics, etc...I know the deal.
j-mac
Not quite there Tex...See, when these large, generous pensions go insolvent then their cost gets passed on to me as a taxpayer...So hurry up and get back in the workforce, because I can't, nor do I want to subsidize your retirement.
j-mac
Here, let me help you out with a question....What happens to union pension programs when they go insolvent?
j-mac
It is true I don't put too much stock in the parties. However, even independents tend to vote for one more than the other. And on occasion those who belong to one vote for another (like me voting for Grassly).
BTW, are you suggesting that because someone works for the tax payer, they are not entitled to a decent benefit package? I don't mean just this person, who suggests you may get your money's worth in return, but those who retire after years of service?
Many people work their whole lives, giving years of service, and do not get to then sit back on the tax payers dime. One that tax payers never voted for or approved.
Uh, wrong: My pension fund is a private one between private employer and representing labor union . . . So, no, you don't pay for anything. What you're alluding to are municple pension funds; and they are nowhere near insolvent. There is a phony projection going around that although contributions are down, at the former rates with increased hiring and less tax revenue: the no - taxes right-wing remember (this is how you set your own traps), a projection of loss has been made through alchemy. If rates increase and employment decreases, then the fund amount will last a lot longer than increasing employment and decreasing funding. The right is trying to decrease funding simply because company retirement plans are nowhere near as good as union plans; 401Ks belong to the subscriber who must market their plan to perspective employers in the hope of getting a good matching 401K that they can roll into, but employers, as usual, are on the cheap about it. Union plans on the other hand are an umbrealla plan that covers an entire jurisdiction; in my case, both the western and southwestern conference of Teamsters, that stay with you from company to company until you decide you want to "go out" as well call it, or freeze your pension; drawing at 62, and work in another profession . . . The right-wing can't touch this kind of security and they're so envious of it that they have mounted a campaign against it. Why? becasue they want the intrest that floats in these 401s and like funds, and Wall Street wants the gambling capital.Not quite there Tex...See, when these large, generous pensions go insolvent then their cost gets passed on to me as a taxpayer...So hurry up and get back in the workforce, because I can't, nor do I want to subsidize your retirement.
j-mac
I'm trying to break the monopoly of care doctors have successfully lobbied. There is no reason why nurse practitioners shouldn't be allowed to preform these actions, but in a number of states they aren't allowed to. There's no reason why specialization, which reduces cost, can't be the norm script that doctors have prevented it through controlling the education system and licensing regimens.
Don't blame the union blame the failure it management to negotiate properly.
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Yeah, I've done that in 401K's for about 25 yrs now...I have a decent nest egg, but nothing able to retire me at 50, which for me would be next year. Tell the truth, the generous pension helps that scenario.
j-mac
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