Supreme Court backs parents seeking to opt their kids out of LGBTQ books in elementary schools

[eohrnberger]

Leave the books on the shelf, like I do with the bible and other works of fantasy fiction.

This is no justification for 'demanding that grade school aged, prepubescent kids have access to books like this', much less that the public has to pay for it.
Try again.

How do you justify demanding that grade school aged, prepubescent kids have access to books like this?

 

[trixare4kids]

And as I have pointed out before is the exact same argument used by many to oppose school integration. Parental rights should have limits.

Maybe that's how they do it in Canada, but here in the US, parental rights are constitutionally protected because of the free exercise of religion under the establishment clause of the first amendment. The Mahmoud v. Taylor ruling primarily focused on the Free Exercise Clause (the right to practice religion freely) and who better than the child's parents should be directing this?

 

[BirdinHand]

This is no justification for 'demanding that grade school aged, prepubescent kids have access to books like this', much less that the public has to pay for it.
Try again.

How do you justify demanding that grade school aged, prepubescent kids have access to books like this?

this ruling has nothing to do with books on the shelves of a library.

Do try to keep up.

It allows parents to opt their kids out of lessons which they don’t approve of books being read.

Make sure to check your kid’s homework folder and don’t miss the slip to opt them out if you disagree with a book being read.

Don’t want them to miss their 25 minutes sitting in the office staring at their shoes and then hearing about what they missed from a friend at recess

 

[Gordy327]

Would you like a piece of Mein Kampf with your cheese ? Or a slice of Das Kapital for breakfast?

Im sure you think you've said something clever. But you didn't.

 

[digsbe]

From what I understand, the books simply included LGBT characters or were written by LGBT authors and not necessarily telling kids to go out there and have a bisexual threesome. This is akin to a parent wanting to opt their kids out from reading books containing racial minorities or written by minorities... Conservatives hide behind "religious freedom" to justify all their unchristlike hatred and bigotry towards groups they hate politically like LGBT individuals.

Any parent who opts their kids out should be reported to CPS, that home is likely an extremely unsafe place for any LGBT child and it's well known that LGBT kids raised in conservative religious spaces have much higher rates of suicide.

 

[coyote505]

The reasoning of the decision is that simple messages of tolerance and inclusion are repulsive to the plaintiffs’ Christianity. Their religion demands them to be bigoted and hateful to gay people.

This is why faith in America is dying. It is hateful, negative, repressive, and backward looking.

Messages making LGBTQ look a lot more prevalent that it is could be rationally interpreted as LGBTQ advocacy, and not only by Thumpers.

 

[Sweden]

Education turns empty minds into open minds. That's why education is a libtard plot to make our children gay. And books, well, books are just evil.

Just as long as an 'open mind'does not mean believing everything some idiot ells you.

 

[coyote505]

From what I understand, the books simply included LGBT characters or were written by LGBT authors and not necessarily telling kids to go out there and have a bisexual threesome. This is akin to a parent wanting to opt their kids out from reading books containing racial minorities or written by minorities... Conservatives hide behind "religious freedom" to justify all their unchristlike hatred and bigotry towards groups they hate politically like LGBT individuals.

Any parent who opts their kids out should be reported to CPS, that home is likely an extremely unsafe place for any LGBT child and it's well known that LGBT kids raised in conservative religious spaces have much higher rates of suicide.

Even if there is no evidence of an LGBTQ kid in the household? Only in an extreme LGBTQ focused society.

 

[Cameron]

Messages making LGBTQ look a lot more prevalent that it is could be rationally interpreted as LGBTQ advocacy, and not only by Thumpers.

Mmm, so the solution is to pretend that gay people don’t exist?

 

[reinaert]

Not much fun to be had when they’re sitting in a chair in the principal’s or nurses office, etc

I feel bad for them, frankly.

Singled out and sent to sit somewhere instead of participating in class with their classmates.

But

That’s what their parents want. That’s what they’ll get

In the Northeast. A lot of other places, the state and locals will just purge schools of information because feelings.

 

[MAGAnificent]

Decisions like this merely confirm what a hateful religion and what hateful people many Christians are.

And that ofcourse is coming from the side that is okay with banning bibles or prayer in public schools.

 

[vesper]

Huge win for parental rights especially for the poor and low-income families who have no way of paying for private schools for their children. Now at least they have the parental rights to protect their children from being forced to read, instructed on things against their family beliefs.

 

[NolanVoyd]

Huge win for parental rights especially for the poor and low-income families who have no way of paying for private schools for their children. Now at least they have the parental rights to protect their children from being forced to read, instructed on things against their family beliefs.

The existance of gay people is against their family beliefs.

 

[KingLeo]

So should parents be allowed to opt their kids out of recognizing the 10 Commandments posted in red states?

 

[Carjosse]

Who, in your view, should have more rights over decisions impacting someone's child than the parents themselves in those limited situations?

The children have a right to an education, just like they have a right to not be harmed by their parents. Children are not their parent’s property.

They shouldn’t be able to opt-out of this anymore than they should be able to opt-out of English class or opt-out of sex education.

 

[Taylor]

The children have a right to an education, just like they have a right to not be harmed by their parents. Children are not their parent’s property.

They shouldn’t be able to opt-out of this anymore than they should be able to opt-out of English class or opt-out of sex education.

Well, they certainly aren't the government's property.

 

[vesper]

The existance of gay people is against their family beliefs.

The individual beliefs of the parents vary on an array of issues. The rights of a parent to raise their child in the way they should go is the issue.

 

[jmotivator]

That would violate the Constitution itself as well, as it would be pushing a specific political Where in the constitution is that written?

And where in the Constitution does it say that public schools can't praise a president?

 

[trixare4kids]

The children have a right to an education, just like they have a right to not be harmed by their parents. Children are not their parent’s property.

They shouldn’t be able to opt-out of this anymore than they should be able to opt-out of English class or opt-out of sex education.

Maybe in Canada parents are oppressed but not here.

 

[Hello My Son]

The children have a right to an education, just like they have a right to not be harmed by their parents. Children are not their parent’s property.

They shouldn’t be able to opt-out of this anymore than they should be able to opt-out of English class or opt-out of sex education.

That doesn't answer my question. Who, in these limited circumstances, should have more decision-making power over other people's children if the power doesn't belong to the parents?

 

[NolanVoyd]

The individual beliefs of the parents vary on an array of issues. The rights of a parent to raise their child in the way they should go is the issue.

Gay people exist.

Hiding reality from your children is unhealthy.

 

[Lursa]

It confirms the Constitution does not support little Johnny and Mary learning the joys of oral and anal sex in grade school.

No, it's about submitting to people's religious beliefs.

So should parents be able to opt their kids out of science classes that teach evolution? Is that next?

Anyone? If they can opt out of books on identity for religious reasons, what about science?

 

[Lursa]

The individual beliefs of the parents vary on an array of issues. The rights of a parent to raise their child in the way they should go is the issue.

Are they removing the trans kids from the classes? The kids with gay parents? The kids already know and are exposed to it. They dont naturally attach all the negative and intolerant crap that adults do, to it. They learn that from adults

Shouldnt they learn to be kind and include others? To prevent bullying? Prevent exclusion? To create a better learning environment?

From what you post, some obviously arent going to learn that at home.

 

[trixare4kids]

Well, they certainly aren't the government's property.

Don't you get the idea that our "libs" want them to be?

No, it's about submitting to people's religious beliefs.

So should parents be able to opt their kids out of science classes that teach evolution? Is that next?

Anyone? If they can opt out of books on identity for religious reasons, what about science?

Parents are still free to opt-in for LBGTQ storybooks and the above that you mentioned. Any instruction that interferes with parents’ religious beliefs would qualify for opt-outs.

 

[ncguy]

The right wing obsession with gays and trans continues.
A few decades from now people will look at this like they looked at the conservatives who fought against mixed race marriage