Gilardino87
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Gilardino87 said:There is no other country in the world that has bigger challenges then Israel when it comes to fighting terrorism!
The palestinians must take action against these barbarians, and they need to change their view on terror..
The security fence has so far been very sucsessfull and the terror against Israel has dropped dramaticly..The people that critisice Israel for defending themselves are nazis!
They mean that terrorists can kill jews, and that the jews have no right to defend themselves..
[MOD MODE]Gilardino87 said:The people that critisice Israel for defending themselves are nazis!
Gilardino87 said:The palestinians must take action against these barbarians, and they need to change their view on terror..
I'll support the Palestinians as soon as they stop bombing innocent civillians.
Israel doesn't deliberately kill innocents, unlike the Palestinian suicide bombers. Or are you saying they just happen to spontaneously combust in the middle of crowds?
FinnMacCool said:You fall into the same category. True Israel's don't deliberatly kill innocents unlike the terrorists but they had a choice of using a more precise way to root out terrorists. You will find that most suicide bombers were on some kind of personal vendetta. Perhaps a family member or a friend was killed, their house was blown up etc.
Please don't try and say I'm supporting Palestine. The reason I specifically target Israel is because 1) it is generally assumed that Israel is on the good side while palestine is "evil" while, in actuality, these are both untrue and 2) thats what this thread is about. If you want to make a thread about Palestinian terrorists, go right ahead.
FinnMacCool said:Thats the typical attitude of the close minded. assume that I support the palestinains simply because I don't support Israel. I support neither. They are ****ed up and they have to ge their **** together. Both sides need to work for peace. Both sides refuse to do so. Killing innocent palestinains only helps the cause of the terrorist organizations.
Wrong, wrong, wrong. I made no such assumption. Quite the contrary, it is you who have read way more than justified or intended into a straightforward statement. Let me be even more explicit: I will never support anyone or any organization that deliberately targets civilians. Period. The key word is 'deliberately'. It is my belief, as apparently it is yours, that the Israelis do not deliberately target civilians.
Even so, here is where we agree: "They are ****ed up and they have to ge their **** together. Both sides need to work for peace. Both sides refuse to do so."
The recent movements toward settlement have been the most movement in decades. We now have the best chance in many years for a settlement - as slim as it may be, it is still the best in a long while. Unfortunately, it seems that there are still some organizations/groups who do not want to move forward and would prefer to continue targeting innocents.
BTW, if you take the time and trouble to read a sampling of a few of my other posts, I think you'll find that I'm far from closed minded. Just my own opinion, of course. My die-hard Dem wife accuses me of being otherwise.
How can I hate jews? My favorite uncle is jewish. I am on nobodys side except the side of peace.Fin, you hate Jews, we know this. Now be a man and come right out and say it and support your position.
FinnMacCool said:How can I hate jews? My favorite uncle is jewish. I am on nobodys side except the side of peace.
Willravel said:, but that DOESN'T excuse what they are doing now.
They're handing out flowers and kisses to the Palestinians, that's why the Plaestinians are resorting to suicide bombings and other forms of terrorism.teacher said:And what is it EXACTLY they are doing now?
Willravel said:They're handing out flowers and kisses to the Palestinians, that's why the Plaestinians are resorting to suicide bombings and other forms of terrorism.
No need to hold back. I'd prefer you respond in what way you find the most effective. It makes it easier for me to understand both your points and also what information you have to back your points (it also gives me indications of your personality, which helps me to respond).teacher said:You're new here aren't you? I suppose you think your reply very witty. I can do wit. For you? Not yet. Let's do it like this. You're in the basement fool. My guess is you are attempting some form of what has come to known here as smack. Damn did you pick the wrong guy. You're new here. I'll be nice. Kind of. Again.
You don't think Israelies are targeting Palestinian children?! I hope you're joking. In the past 5 years alone, 703 Palestinian children have been murdered by Israelies(that's stone cold friggin dead, if you will). In that same amount of time only 123 Israeli children have been murdered by Palestinians. Keep that in mind as you smugly say, "The day they stop targetting children is the day I will listen to their grievances."teacher said:What exactly are the Israelis (and since you're new, no, I'm not Jewish, I'm a Yankee W.A.S.P. thank you) doing that warrent the Palestinians targetting the Jewish children and not a military check point or base.
Were I an adult that had lost a child to a monster I would spend a long time making those that caused that stone cold friggin dead. I can care less at this point the causes of the Palestinians. The day they stop targetting children is the day I will listen to their grievances. This is not negotiable.
Bring it.
Willravel said:Israel regularly breaks international law in that they, as an occupying force, are responsible for the protection of the civilian population living under its control, yet they regularly break the Geneva Conventions.
What exactly is regularly? Yearly? Monthly? Weekly? Daily? Hourly? Nonstop? Can you plz supply citations that support your nondefined indictment of 'regularity'?Willravel said:The Israeli forces regularly steal Palestinians land, inprison and torture Palestinians without process (including children, which you seemingly seek to defend), place towns under curfew, destroy (with bullets, bombs, missles) Palestinian shops, buisnesses, schools and hospitals, and reguarly shoot, maima and kill Palestinian civilians on the street.
Willravel said:The are doing to the Plaestinians what was done to them by the Plaestinians not a half a century ago.
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