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Support for impeaching Trump soars among independents

Reality, like truth, can't be faked.

No, but you can get the poorly educated to believe almost anything, they tend to lack decent critical thinking skills. Trump cons much of his base on a daily basis, for example he tweets how bad anyone is who is to the left of fascists, and most of his base buys it every time.

That's the terminal illness that will always strike the propaganda Progressives and others on the far left can't shake once they are infected by it.

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That is simply not true. The only thing the White House released was their interpretation of the transcript, not the word for word text of the call. And considering how honest the administration tends to be with their interpretations of potentially incrimination information (The Mueller report memo from Barr), any sensible person would be skeptical.

it is true. they released the phone transcript. no quid pro quo was found.
the mueller report showed no wrong doing at all. so there goes your entire argument out the window.

and well your no true scotsman fallacy fails.
 
Really show the actual word for word of the call. All we have is what the White House put out which is NOT word for word. I would say you were duped again but you are a trump apologist who would excuse ANY crime trump committed. You are trump over country through and through like ocean and Mycroft.

your projection arguments fails again. i am done with the leftist witch trials. you show me evidence of a crime first.
I am sick of your witch hunt accusations with no evidence. so you show me evidence of a crime.

see in america we have this thing called innocent until proven guilty. so far all of the investigations have come up with zilch.
you triggered leftist simply can't handle it and continue on with your witch hunts.
 
:lamo Still trying to peddle the above bull**** opinion piece as “proof” that Trump hasn’t actually lied more than 10,000 times since being elected? Really pathetic and lazy of you.

Goldstein cherrypicked and “evaluated” just 100 Trump comments (less than 1%) out of over 10,000 to come to his absurd conclusion. The results of his bogus review are statistically worthless.

Of course they keep trying to con people, it's the Trump way.

Now the White Supremacists are trying to con us into believing Trump never publicly defended Neo Nazis and the KKK after Charlottesville.
 
it is true. they released the phone transcript. no quid pro quo was found.
the mueller report showed no wrong doing at all. so there goes your entire argument out the window.

and well your no true scotsman fallacy fails.

Literally nothing you just posted was factual. No complete phone transcript was released, a quid pro quo has been admitted to by Trump's own people, and the Mueller report spelled out serious wrongdoing, but was completely written around the notion that a sitting President cannot be charged with a crime, so it is therefore wrong to even accuse him.
 
your projection arguments fails again. i am done with the leftist witch trials. you show me evidence of a crime first.
I am sick of your witch hunt accusations with no evidence. so you show me evidence of a crime.

see in america we have this thing called innocent until proven guilty. so far all of the investigations have come up with zilch.
you triggered leftist simply can't handle it and continue on with your witch hunts.

Oh bull****, you cons are despicable in your support of Trump. You have said nothing that refutes what I have said. You ignore all the evidence in support of your God Trump and believe that a white house transcript (which isn't word for word) as gospel. In other words, thank you for proving me 100% right about you Trump supporters. The only ones triggered are you Trumptard supporters and Trump with all his whining on Twitter, so deal with THAT fact.

You support the most corrupt president (Trump) in the last 100 years at least and that is FACT. I hope all Trump supporters burn in hell for what they have done to this country.
 
Reality, as ever, is apparently a conspiracy against Trump and his apologists.

Russian meddling
Obstruction
Quid pro quo.

so far lots of bags of nothing yet who are the conspiracy theorists again?
Pelosi and the leftist scum have are the ones that proven themselves untrustworthy.

they accused an innocent man of being a serial rapist with no evidence.
they have accused everyone under the sun of every accusation possible with no evidence.

nothing more than the party of witch trials is what the leftist scum bags have become.
time for people to wake up to what leftist truly are. the party attempting to over-through our
democracy and republic and the freedom of the people to choose our president.
 
Dems - 40%
Reps - 34%
Ind - 9%

Seriously??? Only 9% of the people they polled were Independents...and they talk about support for impeaching Trump soaring???

Now I know why they didn't give a link to their totally rotten, lying poll in that article.

POLL REJECTED!!!!

You always reject polls when it disagrees with your bias.
 
Russian meddling
Obstruction
Quid pro quo.

so far lots of bags of nothing yet who are the conspiracy theorists again?
Pelosi and the leftist scum have are the ones that proven themselves untrustworthy.

they accused an innocent man of being a serial rapist with no evidence.
they have accused everyone under the sun of every accusation possible with no evidence.

nothing more than the party of witch trials is what the leftist scum bags have become.
time for people to wake up to what leftist truly are. the party attempting to over-through our
democracy and republic and the freedom of the people to choose our president.

Every intelligence and law enforcement agency we have believes Russia meddled in the 2016 election and will likely seek to do so again.

Multiple examples of obstruction of justice were laid out in the Mueller report. The fact Trump wasn't charged has more to do with DoJ guidelines than anything else.

And Trump's own people have repeatedly made it clear a Quid pro quo existed. This isn't even debatable at this point.

All the while the Trumpists sit and cheer the man who lies to them a dozen times a day because they value trolling the left more than our nation's health or reputation.
 
Literally nothing you just posted was factual. No complete phone transcript was released, a quid pro quo has been admitted to by Trump's own people, and the Mueller report spelled out serious wrongdoing, but was completely written around the notion that a sitting President cannot be charged with a crime, so it is therefore wrong to even accuse him.

They released the phone transcript: fact.
No it hasn't been addmited by anyone and in fact it has been denied multiple times: fact
The mueller report found not collusion with russia by the trump campaign. Mueller also gave no opinion on whether or not obstruction was there.
by giving no opinion he turned the decision over to Rosenstein who found that there was no evidence of obstruction. Fact.

So let me know when you get some facts because like most leftists you are leaving out pretty much all of them.
 
Of course they keep trying to con people, it's the Trump way.

Now the White Supremacists are trying to con us into believing Trump never publicly defended Neo Nazis and the KKK after Charlottesville.
Disinformation is a proven effective tool of Trump and his proxies.
 
Oh bull****, you cons are despicable in your support of Trump. You have said nothing that refutes what I have said. You ignore all the evidence in support of your God Trump and believe that a white house transcript (which isn't word for word) as gospel. In other words, thank you for proving me 100% right about you Trump supporters. The only ones triggered are you Trumptard supporters and Trump with all his whining on Twitter, so deal with THAT fact.

You support the most corrupt president (Trump) in the last 100 years at least and that is FACT. I hope all Trump supporters burn in hell for what they have done to this country.

actually what is posted refutes everything you said. it was pretty simple.

No russia
no obstruction
no quid pro quo.

all you have is witch trial accusations.

it isn't my job to prove anything. you are making the accusations the burden of proof is on you.
so far you have nothing have had nothing and will continue to have nothing.
continue to be triggered by trumps election from 2016.

i can't wait to see the melt down when he gets re-elected.
it is going to be epic.
 
You always reject polls when it disagrees with your bias.

Actually, I don't. I only reject polls that use crappy sampling.

Not my fault that most polls do this. Pollsters nowadays don't mind lying to you. It's up to you whether you want to believe their lies...based on your bias.
 
Disinformation is a proven effective tool of Trump and his proxies.

that is all leftists have is disinformation since every accusation they throw is easily debunked within minutes of them saying it.
 
Based on what evidence?

There has been no trial.

The only thing anyone knows about the issue is what Schiff is leaking to the media.

Or, do you believe the President is effectively on trial, and evidence proves he engaged in impeachable offenses?

Despite your beliefs, Pelosi is compiling a damning stack of testimony and hearings -will- go public once she feels she has enough evidence.

I despise Pelosi for the corporatist she is but she is doing this correctly. It's an added bonus that you guys are flapping in the breeze about transparency and whatever else the echo chamber brings up as "unfair."
 
that is all leftists have is disinformation since every accusation they throw is easily debunked within minutes of them saying it.

Explain to me how it's debunked when Trump ADMITS IT.

Even when he ADMITS wrong doing you insist he didn't admit it.

Your words are as hollow as the o in god.
 
Explain to me how it's debunked when Trump ADMITS IT.

Even when he ADMITS wrong doing you insist he didn't admit it.

Your words are as hollow as the o in god.

he didn't admit anything. next this has already been proven as true. thanks
for proving my point. as soon as this was claimed by the leftist propaganda machine it was debunked within
minutes. yet you still continue to believe it.
 
Actually, I don't. I only reject polls that use crappy sampling.

Not my fault that most polls do this. Pollsters nowadays don't mind lying to you. It's up to you whether you want to believe their lies...based on your bias.

WHich you claim is any poll that doesn't meet your bias. I get it. You do love to throw the 'lie' claim out also.
 
Despite your beliefs, Pelosi is compiling a damning stack of testimony and hearings -will- go public once she feels she has enough evidence.

that would be GREAT. THEN we would have an honest to god inquiry, instead of a schiffleaks witch hunt!!!

let me know when that happens.
 
That fat orange roll of blubber is going to get flame broiled and then served in some low-rent sushi joint, and his fawning acolytes are at first going to deny that he deserved to get shoveled out of office, and then they're going to deny that they ever supported him, and then they're just going to make thousand of posts about hating libs, because at that point what else is there?
 
he didn't admit anything. next this has already been proven as true. thanks
for proving my point. as soon as this was claimed by the leftist propaganda machine it was debunked within
minutes. yet you still continue to believe it.

Wrong, wrong, wrong.

You guys won't support impeachment no matter what he does.

ADMIT IT.
 
that would be GREAT. THEN we would have an honest to god inquiry, instead of a schiffleaks witch hunt!!!

let me know when that happens.

To quote Pazuzu; In time.
 
Trump's failed presidency proves that denying reality doesn't work.
 
WHich you claim is any poll that doesn't meet your bias. I get it. You do love to throw the 'lie' claim out also.

The sampling data I report isn't affected by any "bias" on my part. I get that data from the pollsters, themselves. It's their own facts.

Look. I know the facts screw up the spin and nonsense you want to believe, but don't blame me...blame the people you want to believe. They are the ones who are lying to you.
 
The sampling data I report isn't affected by any "bias" on my part. I get that data from the pollsters, themselves. It's their own facts.

Look. I know the facts screw up the spin and nonsense you want to believe, but don't blame me...blame the people you want to believe. They are the ones who are lying to you.

Uh huh. Right.
 
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