Suicides on the rise amid stay-at-home order, Bay Area medical professionals say

[joko104]

[h=1]Suicides on the rise amid stay-at-home order, Bay Area medical professionals say[/h]
[FONT=&quot]WALNUT CREEK, Calif. (KGO) -- Doctors at John Muir Medical Center in Walnut Creek say they have seen[/FONT][FONT=&quot] more deaths by suicide during this quarantine period than deaths from the [/FONT]COVID-19 virus.

Coronavirus impact: Suicides on the rise amid shelter-in-place order, Bay Area medical professionals say - ABC7 San Francisco

That is just suicide deaths. Now add the massive number of other deaths caused by the shut down - plus deduct all the deliberate deaths ordered by some Democratic governors of the elderly in nursing homes.

How many ways have been found to kill off Americans by the shut down:

Deliberately infecting old people in nursing homes.
Forcing shoppers to either congregate in a few massive stores and/or from Amazon - shutting down mom and pop stores to force shoppers and employees as tightly and numerously together as possible.
Making it impossible for anyone to get their medical check ups - so heart issues, cancer and other issues not detected
Causing heart attacks and strokes by making breathing much more difficult by masks
Forcing 30,000,000 people in to zero income - and millions - including then family members - into total destitution, homelessness, lose of everything - and being unable to buy their prescription drugs they are life dependent on and unable to make the co-pay for lifesaving surgeries.
Add to this increased suicide given the shutdowns are indefinite and many governors - mostly Democratic governors - proven pathological liars promising opening dates - and the saying that was a lie and extending in again and again and again by which NO ONE can even try to plan their minimal survival.
Increasing teenage and adolescent suicides?

The shutdown has killed far more Americans than it has saved - and is killing higher numbers every day this continues - but we can't know how many in total the shut down has killed on government dictatorial decrees because denying cancer detection and therefore treatment in early stages can be a low-murder death sentence of the governors and mayors.

 

[lwf]

[h=1]Suicides on the rise amid stay-at-home order, Bay Area medical professionals say[/h]
[FONT="]WALNUT CREEK, Calif. (KGO) -- Doctors at John Muir Medical Center in Walnut Creek say they have seen[/FONT][/COLOR][SIZE=3][B][FONT="] more deaths by suicide during this quarantine period than deaths from the [/FONT]COVID-19 virus.

[/B][/SIZE]Coronavirus impact: Suicides on the rise amid shelter-in-place order, Bay Area medical professionals say - ABC7 San Francisco

That is just suicide deaths. Now add the massive number of other deaths caused by the shut down - plus deduct all the deliberate deaths ordered by some Democratic governors of the elderly in nursing homes.

How many ways have been found to kill off Americans by the shut down:

Deliberately infecting old people in nursing homes.
Forcing shoppers to either congregate in a few massive stores and/or from Amazon - shutting down mom and pop stores to force shoppers and employees as tightly and numerously together as possible.
Making it impossible for anyone to get their medical check ups - so heart issues, cancer and other issues not detected
Causing heart attacks and strokes by making breathing much more difficult by masks
Forcing 30,000,000 people in to zero income - and millions - including then family members - into total destitution, homelessness, lose of everything - and being unable to buy their prescription drugs they are life dependent on and unable to make the co-pay for lifesaving surgeries.
Add to this increased suicide given the shutdowns are indefinite and many governors - mostly Democratic governors - proven pathological liars promising opening dates - and the saying that was a lie and extending in again and again and again by which NO ONE can even try to plan their minimal survival.
Increasing teenage and adolescent suicides?

The shutdown has killed far more Americans than it has saved - and is killing higher numbers every day this continues - but we can't know how many in total the shut down has killed on government dictatorial decrees because denying cancer detection and therefore treatment in early stages can be a low-murder death sentence of the governors and mayors.

The coronavirus has killed far more people than the shut down has, and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future.

 

[danielpalos]

[h=1]Suicides on the rise amid stay-at-home order, Bay Area medical professionals say[/h]
[FONT="]WALNUT CREEK, Calif. (KGO) -- Doctors at John Muir Medical Center in Walnut Creek say they have seen[/FONT][/COLOR][SIZE=3][B][FONT="] more deaths by suicide during this quarantine period than deaths from the [/FONT]COVID-19 virus.

[/B][/SIZE]Coronavirus impact: Suicides on the rise amid shelter-in-place order, Bay Area medical professionals say - ABC7 San Francisco

That is just suicide deaths. Now add the massive number of other deaths caused by the shut down - plus deduct all the deliberate deaths ordered by some Democratic governors of the elderly in nursing homes.

How many ways have been found to kill off Americans by the shut down:

Deliberately infecting old people in nursing homes.
Forcing shoppers to either congregate in a few massive stores and/or from Amazon - shutting down mom and pop stores to force shoppers and employees as tightly and numerously together as possible.
Making it impossible for anyone to get their medical check ups - so heart issues, cancer and other issues not detected
Causing heart attacks and strokes by making breathing much more difficult by masks
Forcing 30,000,000 people in to zero income - and millions - including then family members - into total destitution, homelessness, lose of everything - and being unable to buy their prescription drugs they are life dependent on and unable to make the co-pay for lifesaving surgeries.
Add to this increased suicide given the shutdowns are indefinite and many governors - mostly Democratic governors - proven pathological liars promising opening dates - and the saying that was a lie and extending in again and again and again by which NO ONE can even try to plan their minimal survival.
Increasing teenage and adolescent suicides?

The shutdown has killed far more Americans than it has saved - and is killing higher numbers every day this continues - but we can't know how many in total the shut down has killed on government dictatorial decrees because denying cancer detection and therefore treatment in early stages can be a low-murder death sentence of the governors and mayors.

Interesting story, bro.

Are the stimulus payments being made in imaginary numbers?

 

[joko104]

The coronavirus has killed far more people than the shut down has, and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future.

Deduct those killed by being infected with covid-19 while otherwise would not have been. You forgot to do that. OR explain your theory of why ordering infected people be put into nursing homes for poor elderly people over the objection of the management saved lives? Try to explain how you save lives deliberately infecting poor elderly people in nursing homes.

At least you sub silentio in your message don't give a damn about how many people, including kids, commit suicide.

 

[lwf]

Deduct those killed by being infected with covid-19 while otherwise would not have been. You forgot to do that. OR explain your theory of why ordering infected people be put into nursing homes for poor elderly people over the objection of the management saved lives? Try to explain how you save lives deliberately infecting poor elderly people in nursing homes.

At least you sub silentio in your message don't give a damn about how many people, including kids, commit suicide.

What?

 

[joko104]

Interesting story, bro.

Are the stimulus payments being made in imaginary numbers?

I gather from your message that you are a street person living in a tent for which you can live on about $2000 indefinitely and it even dramatically increase your quality of life.

Insulin alone is $500 per month. How much to you think chemo therapy costs, even just the copay? I paid the copay for an elderly minister for cancer chemo and treatment about 5 years ago - which they would not do until he paid the copay: $3000.

Many people received no money from the government whatsoever.

 

[The AntiDonald]

What?

Definitely not from this planet.

 

[mrjurrs]

[h=1]Suicides on the rise amid stay-at-home order, Bay Area medical professionals say[/h]
[FONT="]WALNUT CREEK, Calif. (KGO) -- Doctors at John Muir Medical Center in Walnut Creek say they have seen[/FONT][/COLOR][SIZE=3][B][FONT="] more deaths by suicide during this quarantine period than deaths from the [/FONT]COVID-19 virus.

[/B][/SIZE]Coronavirus impact: Suicides on the rise amid shelter-in-place order, Bay Area medical professionals say - ABC7 San Francisco

That is just suicide deaths. Now add the massive number of other deaths caused by the shut down - plus deduct all the deliberate deaths ordered by some Democratic governors of the elderly in nursing homes.

How many ways have been found to kill off Americans by the shut down:

Deliberately infecting old people in nursing homes.
Forcing shoppers to either congregate in a few massive stores and/or from Amazon - shutting down mom and pop stores to force shoppers and employees as tightly and numerously together as possible.
Making it impossible for anyone to get their medical check ups - so heart issues, cancer and other issues not detected
Causing heart attacks and strokes by making breathing much more difficult by masks
Forcing 30,000,000 people in to zero income - and millions - including then family members - into total destitution, homelessness, lose of everything - and being unable to buy their prescription drugs they are life dependent on and unable to make the co-pay for lifesaving surgeries.
Add to this increased suicide given the shutdowns are indefinite and many governors - mostly Democratic governors - proven pathological liars promising opening dates - and the saying that was a lie and extending in again and again and again by which NO ONE can even try to plan their minimal survival.
Increasing teenage and adolescent suicides?

The shutdown has killed far more Americans than it has saved - and is killing higher numbers every day this continues - but we can't know how many in total the shut down has killed on government dictatorial decrees because denying cancer detection and therefore treatment in early stages can be a low-murder death sentence of the governors and mayors.

Got anything other than a fever dream to support your "The shutdown has killed far more Americans than it has saved" claim. You don't.

 

[mrjurrs]

Deduct those killed by being infected with covid-19 while otherwise would not have been. You forgot to do that. OR explain your theory of why ordering infected people be put into nursing homes for poor elderly people over the objection of the management saved lives? Try to explain how you save lives deliberately infecting poor elderly people in nursing homes.

At least you sub silentio in your message don't give a damn about how many people, including kids, commit suicide.

Like you actually care about those suicides, you use them to make a political point, not a social one.

 

[HennyBogan]

The coronavirus has killed far more people than the shut down has, and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future.

Estimates from the health dept in Australia say that deaths resulting from shut downs will be 10X actual virus deaths!

 

[lwf]

Estimates from the health dept in Australia say that deaths resulting from shut downs will be 10X actual virus deaths!

Source?

 

[2distracted]

[h=1]Suicides on the rise amid stay-at-home order, Bay Area medical professionals say[/h]
[FONT="]WALNUT CREEK, Calif. (KGO) -- Doctors at John Muir Medical Center in Walnut Creek say they have seen[/FONT][/COLOR][SIZE=3][B][FONT="] more deaths by suicide during this quarantine period than deaths from the [/FONT]COVID-19 virus.

[/B][/SIZE]Coronavirus impact: Suicides on the rise amid shelter-in-place order, Bay Area medical professionals say - ABC7 San Francisco

That is just suicide deaths. Now add the massive number of other deaths caused by the shut down - plus deduct all the deliberate deaths ordered by some Democratic governors of the elderly in nursing homes.

How many ways have been found to kill off Americans by the shut down:

Deliberately infecting old people in nursing homes.
Forcing shoppers to either congregate in a few massive stores and/or from Amazon - shutting down mom and pop stores to force shoppers and employees as tightly and numerously together as possible.
Making it impossible for anyone to get their medical check ups - so heart issues, cancer and other issues not detected
Causing heart attacks and strokes by making breathing much more difficult by masks
Forcing 30,000,000 people in to zero income - and millions - including then family members - into total destitution, homelessness, lose of everything - and being unable to buy their prescription drugs they are life dependent on and unable to make the co-pay for lifesaving surgeries.
Add to this increased suicide given the shutdowns are indefinite and many governors - mostly Democratic governors - proven pathological liars promising opening dates - and the saying that was a lie and extending in again and again and again by which NO ONE can even try to plan their minimal survival.
Increasing teenage and adolescent suicides?

The shutdown has killed far more Americans than it has saved - and is killing higher numbers every day this continues - but we can't know how many in total the shut down has killed on government dictatorial decrees because denying cancer detection and therefore treatment in early stages can be a low-murder death sentence of the governors and mayors.

Was cancer treatment considered non essential????

 

[2distracted]

Like you actually care about those suicides, you use them to make a political point, not a social one.

So since you know every nook and cranny of a person's heart...tell me... What exactly is in MY heart at this moment in time?

 

[2distracted]

Deduct those killed by being infected with covid-19 while otherwise would not have been. You forgot to do that. OR explain your theory of why ordering infected people be put into nursing homes for poor elderly people over the objection of the management saved lives? Try to explain how you save lives deliberately infecting poor elderly people in nursing homes.

At least you sub silentio in your message don't give a damn about how many people, including kids, commit suicide.

Well, according to these folks, better to die from just about anything than the virus

 

[HennyBogan]

Source?

Australia's suicide rate could surge due to economic fallout of coronavirus | SBS News

More Deaths From Suicides In Lockdown Than From Coronavirus | GreatGameIndia

 

[lwf]

Australia's suicide rate could surge due to economic fallout of coronavirus | SBS News

More Deaths From Suicides In Lockdown Than From Coronavirus | GreatGameIndia

Australia so far only has 103 confirmed COVID-19 deaths, and that is a projection. The US has a thousand times this number. Obviously, we don't want the cure to become worse than the disease. But it has not become worse than the disease anywhere in the world including Australia, and the US is in zero danger of this happening in the immediate future.

The human cost of COVID-19 is far worse than the human cost of the economic recession at this time. When that trend reverses, then we should focus on the economy. Not before.

 

[HennyBogan]

Australia so far only has 103 confirmed COVID-19 deaths, and that is a projection. The US has a thousand times this number. Obviously, we don't want the cure to become worse than the disease. But it has not become worse than the disease anywhere in the world including Australia, and the US is in zero danger of this happening in the immediate future.

The human cost of COVID-19 is far worse than the human cost of the economic recession at this time. When that trend reverses, then we should focus on the economy. Not before.

Well the experts in Australia disagree with you, and an extra 1000 - 3000 suicide deaths is not inconceivable in Australia, maybe that is why they are already opening up significantly without having some whacko dictator governors telling them not to go boating, whilst they themselves do! I get it, your nonsensical response is due to the fact that I actually dumped a leftist source on you ..aka SBS .. Predominantly a media outlet that espouses the agenda of foreign invaders in Australia. Odd thing though, many of their presenters like Trump and think leftists are idiotic, go figure!

 

[j brown's body]

The suicide rate among white, middle age males has been going up for some time now.

 

[lwf]

Well the experts in Australia disagree with you, and an extra 1000 - 3000 suicide deaths is not inconceivable in Australia, maybe that is why they are already opening up significantly without having some whacko dictator governors telling them not to go boating, whilst they themselves do! I get it, your nonsensical response is due to the fact that I actually dumped a leftist source on you ..aka SBS .. Predominantly a media outlet that espouses the agenda of foreign invaders in Australia. Odd thing though, many of their presenters like Trump and think leftists are idiotic, go figure!

If their infection rate is under control, then they should carefully open up. The goal is not to tank the economy, the goal is to prevent as many deaths as possible. When the infection rate is spiking, economic shutdown will result in a net decrease in the number of deaths. When the infection rate is minimal, then economic shutdown would result in a net increase of deaths and this should also be avoided.

Right now, the economic shutdown is resulting in a net prevention of human deaths. When that changes, the course needs to be corrected. The death rate of doing nothing would be astronomically higher than the death rate of leaving the economy shuttered for months on end.

 

[HennyBogan]

If their infection rate is under control, then they should carefully open up. The goal is not to tank the economy, the goal is to prevent as many deaths as possible. When the infection rate is spiking, economic shutdown will result in a net decrease in the number of deaths. When the infection rate is minimal, then economic shutdown would result in a net increase of deaths and this should also be avoided.

Right now, the economic shutdown is resulting in a net prevention of human deaths. When that changes, the course needs to be corrected. The death rate of doing nothing would be astronomically higher than the death rate of leaving the economy shuttered for months on end.

That is just basically obvious, the US has to figure out the number, countries like Australia, NZ it is easy. The huge hurdle for the US is the sheer numbers and of course the political nonsense that goes on from state to state.

 

[HennyBogan]

The suicide rate among white, middle age males has been going up for some time now.

Ok nice, you have a source on this? That would not be good for mankind's advancement would it? Seriously, have not white men been responsible for the majority of advancement in mankind's technology et al in the last few hundred years?

 

[lwf]

Ok nice, you have a source on this? That would not be good for mankind's advancement would it? Seriously, have not white men been responsible for the majority of advancement in mankind's technology et al in the last few hundred years?

Who Suicide Hits Hardest in the U.S.

Middle-aged and older Native American men are highest, followed by middle-aged and older white men.

 

[HennyBogan]

Who Suicide Hits Hardest in the U.S.

Middle-aged and older Native American men are highest, followed by middle-aged and older white men.

More interesting in that is more women make an attempt, and obviously fail! But that of course is a US study!

 

[lwf]

More interesting in that is more women make an attempt, and obviously fail! But that of course is a US study!

Why is that more interesting?

 

[HennyBogan]

Why is that more interesting?

Well I am thinking they fall in a few categories!