dthmstr254
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I don't know if this is a society and ethics topic or L&A topic, so I post it here and let you mods deal with it.
This is a bit old, but it isn't quite as old as some post topics.
August 29, 2007
Police are called out to a domestic disturbance reported in a Detroit suburb. Officer Krupinski and 3 other officers arrive to find 39 Yr old Errol Shaw holding a rake over his shoulder.
Now details get fuzzy, as some say that he advanced on the officers, while CNN does not report that he advanced on him. None of the reports say that he was within 15 feet of the officers, making it difficult to believe, for me, that a trained officer would have much of a problem pulling out a taser and disabling the man, even if he was truly threatening him. Whatever the reason, instead of disabling, Officer Krupinski shot and killed Errol Shaw.
Now, look at it from Shaw's point of view:
You come out from the back with a rake, whether or not you are doing your lawn is irrelevant since you find 4 police officers holding guns pointed to you. Their mouths move, but, since you are Deaf, you can't hear. You move closer, possibly to get a better view of their lips to see what they are saying, and you get shot.
In addition to that, the family was beyond the range of Errol Shaw's possible attack possibilities, and they were shouting that he was Deaf.
The next situation is stupidity with a robe and gavel:
April 6 2006:
Judge screams at Deaf man in court. Footage caught on channel 13 news station, but I can't find out which station that is. If someone knows where it came from, let me know.
Even without the exact knowledge on the last one, I doubt that judges are supposed to do that, and despite the conflicting testimony, Officer Krupinski had the ability and time to pull a Taser and disable Mr Shaw.
Now, round 1. Ding!
This is a bit old, but it isn't quite as old as some post topics.
August 29, 2007
Police are called out to a domestic disturbance reported in a Detroit suburb. Officer Krupinski and 3 other officers arrive to find 39 Yr old Errol Shaw holding a rake over his shoulder.
Now details get fuzzy, as some say that he advanced on the officers, while CNN does not report that he advanced on him. None of the reports say that he was within 15 feet of the officers, making it difficult to believe, for me, that a trained officer would have much of a problem pulling out a taser and disabling the man, even if he was truly threatening him. Whatever the reason, instead of disabling, Officer Krupinski shot and killed Errol Shaw.
Now, look at it from Shaw's point of view:
You come out from the back with a rake, whether or not you are doing your lawn is irrelevant since you find 4 police officers holding guns pointed to you. Their mouths move, but, since you are Deaf, you can't hear. You move closer, possibly to get a better view of their lips to see what they are saying, and you get shot.
In addition to that, the family was beyond the range of Errol Shaw's possible attack possibilities, and they were shouting that he was Deaf.
The next situation is stupidity with a robe and gavel:
April 6 2006:
Judge screams at Deaf man in court. Footage caught on channel 13 news station, but I can't find out which station that is. If someone knows where it came from, let me know.
Even without the exact knowledge on the last one, I doubt that judges are supposed to do that, and despite the conflicting testimony, Officer Krupinski had the ability and time to pull a Taser and disable Mr Shaw.
Now, round 1. Ding!