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Study: Global warming affects hurricane intensity

I am terribly confused and a little scared.

It seems to me that there's nothing anyone can say to help you. I recommend that you proceed post haste to a medical professional and request an intensive psychiatric evaluation. Hopefully soon thereafter, you will be, to borrow a phrase, "comfortably numb."


Stinger said:
Hmmm Oceans have been cooling the last three years.

Yes, as you say, they are. Wouldn't it be nice if all of those scientists were wrong, and GW was just another scientific false alarm? I'd be ever so glad if it were so. I'd also feel a little silly, and become very nasty towards the scientific community at large.

I'm afraid I'm going to have to concede this debate to you. I'm wrapping things up here at DebatePolitics. You win! The excoriation has been exhilarating.
 
Gobal warming is real, but to what degree? There was a mini-Ice Age in Europe in the 1400's and re-polarizations of the Earth's magnetic fields periodically, why can't we have a warming trend that is natural and not freak out? Are humans amplifying the situation? That should be the real question. I just get so tired of the conspiracy oriented people out htere screaming that the sky is falling. Look what happened to Loosy Goosy and Chicken Little after all. :mrgreen:
 
Stinger said:
Been wondering what happened to all the GW faithful here. So I thought I'd post an update

Arlene (Jun 8-13) / Bret (Jun 28-29) / Cindy (Jul 3-7) / Dennis (Jul 4-12)
Emily (Jul 11-21) / Franklin (Jul 21-29) / Gert (Jul 23-25) / Harvey (Aug 3-8)
Irene (Aug 7-18) / Jose (Aug 22-23) / Katrina (Aug 23-30) / Lee (Aug 31-Sep 1)

We've now had two storms make it into the Caribeen with one barely making it to hurricane strength one hitting the US as little more than a minor tropical storm. Twelve by this time last year some of them major.

So is the low number due to Global Warming too?



HAHA according to faithful_servant's link they predict that there will not only be an increase in foul weather but an increase in normal weather as well...about halfway down the page......ROFLMAO and Gore just said that cigarette smoke is a major cause too didnt he? Just caught a glance at it didnt look into it maybe im wrong but that was the headline....WE NEED TO STOP MANBEARPIG!! LOL what a joke
 
Citizendave said:
I'll tell ya straight up: I don't have a good answer for ya. The basic big picture regarding GW is as follows: since 1800 humans have altered the earth's atmosphere. (You know the chant.) We've increased a greenhouse gas by about 1/3. Mid level world pop estimates are for 9 billion people on the earth by 2050. America pumps out around 25% of the CO2 humans contribute to the atmosphere each year. It's going to take us a long time to get around to it, but one way or another as a society we are going to address this responsibly. Any idiot knows that a (completely unfettered) free market, with it's eye riveted on profits, cares very little about the environment, and so it is ill equipped to address the problem. That's why it's a good thing that we have a strong federal government which will intervene one way or another."


http://www.whoi.edu/oceanus/viewArticle.do?id=2441

Granted we dont, as humans, treat this planet with much respect as a whole...but I find it hard to believe that we are the cause for global warming.

It will correct itself regardless.

http://jcgi.pathfinder.com/time/archive/preview/0,10987,997848,00.html

Still cracking up about Gore and cigarettes...HAHA

http://www.drudgereport.com/flash6.htm
 
Citizendave said:
Uncross your eyes Einstein. The word you intend to use is "hole," not "whole." Got it, "hole?"
Wow.....your mind is like putty in my hands.

Do you understand: a "hole?"
Here let me show you my hole! :kissass

Bender is funny, you are increasingly pathetic non-debater.
Bender doesn't give a rats ***! As a matter of fact, he's been known to put out his own portion of "Greenhouse Gasses"

You have apparently nothing substantial to say, so why should I?
Because someone is talking to you, so you must respond. Besides im centrist, I dont even have to make sense.

Oh, here we go again. Did you just state a fact or a theory? I'll remind you a second time, earlier you said:
I love how you tip tow around your own issue, and yet dont even answer the question. Yes facts.

So do you "know" that human induced GW is false? Or do you just suspect it? Would you like to post any links to back up your flimsy statement? If you get over your lazy spell I'll read any links you post.
No more than SUV's cause global warming!

Go right ahead and chuckle all you want if it makes you feel better. I feel sorry for you.
Save your empathy someone who really needs it! I will not join your pity party! Oh yea, IIII'mmmm Back!!!!! :lol:
 
tecoyah said:
stsburns said:
Please understand that a "Hole" in the Ozone Layer does not mean what it seems you think it does. It actually is a thinning of a certain chemical layer in a blanket we call the atmosphere. It does not "Let things out", and in fact lets things in. The primary benefit of the Ozone Layer for Humans is the reflection of UV wavelengths back into space.

Your seemingly pathetic understanding of complexity in this place we like to call reality, has you at something of a disadvantage when confronted by the members of this board, as most have passed 6th grade science. My recommendation is to STFU before you actually P!ss the adults off.
Well its nice to see the child inside you, but you like to cry when you want to! Where do you get of that you are on a "board," it is a thread!!!!! :doh 6th grade WTF? :poke As I see I will leave "You and your board" to discusses if I have cooties or not. :rofl
 
stsburns said:
tecoyah said:
Well its nice to see the child inside you, but you like to cry when you want to! Where do you get of that you are on a "board," it is a thread!!!!! :doh 6th grade WTF? :poke As I see I will leave "You and your board" to discusses if I have cooties or not. :rofl

I would rest my case right here....and allow your reaction to speak for itself, but that would likely lead to further pointless insult. Instead I will apologise for the negativity in my reply,while still pointing out the inaccuracy of your understanding of the science behind a loss of Ozone in the upper atmosphere.
I hope there is still a child inside me, though I fail to see any crying taking place on my part....perhaps a bit of self evaluation is in order there Bender.
 
Some therapist you would make CitizenDave ;)
Haha

Yeah JohhnyUtah...there are shifts and we are in the beginning of a 50 year drought in the USA... Most people just don't get cycles...

tecoyah, so you insult him and then apologize for hte negativity? :lol:

We aren't the cause 25hook
 
Stinger said:
Hmmm Oceans have been cooling the last three years.

By Sara Goudarzi
LiveScience staff writer
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Updated: 5:14 p.m. CT Sept 21, 2006

Despite the long term warming trend seen around the globe, the oceans have cooled in the last three years, scientists announced today.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14944138


.......

Can you guys on the anti-science right ever manage to make an intellectually honest argument when debating science??:roll: Yes, the oceans have slightly cooled over the last 3 years. However, over the last 50 years, they have warmed significantly. So what we are seeing is a slight cyclical cooling of upper ocean temps, that still reflect an overall warming trend.

The average temperature of the water near the top of the Earth's oceans has significantly cooled since 2003. New research suggests global warming trends are not always steady in their effects on ocean temperatures.

Although the average temperature of the upper oceans has significantly cooled since 2003, the decline is a fraction of the total ocean warming over the previous 48 years.

"This research suggests global warming isn't always steady, but happens with occasional 'speed bumps'," said Josh Willis, a co-author of the study at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. "This cooling is probably natural climate variability. The oceans today are still warmer than they were during the 1980s, and most scientists expect the oceans will eventually continue to warm in response to human-induced climate change."

Willis said the findings have significant implications for global sea-level rise. "Average sea level goes up partly due to warming and thermal expansion of the oceans and partly due to runoff from melting glaciers and ice sheets," Willis said. "The recent cooling episode suggests sea level should have actually decreased in the past two years. Despite this, sea level has continued to rise. This may mean that sea level rise has recently shifted from being mostly caused by warming to being dominated by melting. This idea is consistent with recent estimates of ice-mass loss in Antarctica and accelerating ice-mass loss on Greenland," he said.

For the study, John Lyman at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) Pacific Marine Environmental Laboratory, Seattle, and his co-authors estimated the heat content of the upper 2,500 feet of Earth's oceans from 1993 to 2005. This area represents about 20 percent of the global ocean's average depth.

Researchers found the average temperature of the upper ocean rose by 0.16 degrees Fahrenheit from 1993 to 2003, and then fell 0.055 degrees Fahrenheit from 2003 to 2005. The recent decrease is a dip equal to about one-fifth of the heat gained by the ocean between 1955 and 2003. They analyzed data from a broad array of ocean moorings, floats and shipboard sensors, and supported their results with data from NASA's Jason and Topex/Poseidon satellites.

Lyman said the recent cooling is not unprecedented. "While global ocean temperatures have generally increased over the past 50 years, there have also been substantial decadal decreases," he said. "Other studies have shown that a similar rapid cooling took place from 1980 to 1983. But overall, the long-term trend is warming."

Source: http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2006/sep/HQ_06318_Ocean_Cooling.html
 
25hook said:
http://www.whoi.edu/oceanus/viewArticle.do?id=2441

Granted we dont, as humans, treat this planet with much respect as a whole...but I find it hard to believe that we are the cause for global warming.

Then maybe you should read up a little on thermal physics. If you do so, you might see why virtually the entire scientific community, and every major scientific society in the western world, would disagree with you.

Oh, and the problem with your Drudge Report link, it was a gag on Drudge's part, Gore never actually made that statement.
 
Gill said:
And we are supposed to destroy our economy based on what these "scientists" say??

More junk science.


No way! This is the same EXACT thing I think of when I hear about global warming.
 
Rhapsody1447 said:
No way! This is the same EXACT thing I think of when I hear about global warming.

Obviously that is what you must be thinking about, as opposed to the actual Science behind it. Have any of you actually thought about the economic costs of dealing with a 3 degree global temp increase over the next century? (Hint, if 3 degrees does not seem to be a big deal, you should realize the difference between the weather you enjoy today, and a sheet of ice a mile thick extending over the entire upper half of the United States is only about a 5 degree global drop in average temps than what we have now)
 
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