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Study Finds Prejudice Against COVID-19 Unvaccinated Around the World

Gordy327 said:
Twitter is nonsense, much like your conspiracy BS. Try something actually reputable.
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Then don’t go there. In the interim we are ly in the whipping that he is giving the woke world.
 
Paradoxical said:
Then don’t go there. In the interim we are ly in the whipping that he is giving the woke world.
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I don't. Twitter is bs and only the ignorant go there for any information. The rest of your post makes no sense either, which seems to br a recurring theme of yours.
 
Gordy327 said:
I don't. Twitter is bs and only the ignorant go there for any information. The rest of your post makes no sense either, which seems to br a recurring theme of yours.
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I doubt Elon Musk needs you there. Billions of people are there and they were being spoon fed STATE sponsored speech by only those who gave the party line and that gig is up.
 
Paradoxical said:
I doubt Elon Musk needs you there. Billions of people are there and they were being spoon fed STATE sponsored speech by only those who gave the party line and that gig is up.
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I simply do not want to be there. I don't bother with such social media. Why would anyone in their right mind use Twitter for information? Meanwhile, you still haven't offered anything to support your baseless assertions.
 
Gordy327 said:
I simply do not want to be there. I don't bother with such social media. Why would anyone in their right mind use Twitter for information? Meanwhile, you still haven't offered anything to support your baseless assertions.
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Because legacy news lies and propagandizes us is why.
 
mrjurrs said:
Shocking that people would dislike people that choose to put other people in danger.
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Its a tough problem with two sides that have legitimate arguments at this point IMO. Earlier on when the vaccines were reasonably effective at preventing transmission it was more clear cut: you could infect others if you didn't get vaccinated much more easily than if you got your shots. Now its pretty clear that despite getting vaccinated you can transmit the virus and get infected, though if you are vaccinated you won't likely get very sick if you are otherwise reasonably healthy. The benefits of getting vaccinated now are less direct. If you are unvaxxed and get serious disease and end up in the hospital you are unnecessarily straining the hospital system and possibly taking an ICU bed away from a normal person (I don't consider covidiots to be normal at all). So the question becomes whether or not these indirect benefits outweigh the affront to personal freedom (by requiring vaccination). I can see both sides of the issue now. Early in the pandemic, not so much.
 
mrjurrs said:
Shocking that people would dislike people that choose to put other people in danger.
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Indeed. Intentionally putting people at risk by not getting vaccinated and/or taking precautions should be disliked and is just plain stupid. When did stupid become the norm?
 
Paradoxical said:
That’s the way t he eh want you. Like religion. A believer, docile, compliant, devout worshippers
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Your rants keep getting increasingly nonsensical.
 
Gordy327 said:
I do not know unless they mention something.
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And if another person doesn't tell you up front their vaccination or other status upfront, then there is no reasonable conslusion you can make about whether the total strangers around you are .. in your mind... safe to you or not. And that is why individuals can make personal decisions to best protect themselves, as it is virtually impossible to know for certain what is going on with others, not in a free country, and not without the draconian rules for example being done in places like China.
Gordy327 said:
It's not just protecting myself. It's protecting others around me as well.
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But the virus does not prevent people ultimately from getting covid anyway as we now know. So, you should just worry about yourself is my view.
Gordy327 said:
Yes, but the difference is, vaccinated people are less likely to to suffer extreme effects of Covid if infected and generally recover more quickly while having less chance of spreading the virus.
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Great! And you are vaccinated and boosted, so why are you concerned about what the others do or don't do? If they get sicker than you would due to lack of boosters, then that is their choice to take that risk. But what people like yourself need to accept, is that for some people they feel that mRNA is a risk to them and the way these vaccines work to possibly make human immune systems weak or lazy in the longer run, and therefore a problem down the road. These are legitimate concerns, and we need to respect the choices others make for themselves.
Gordy327 said:
See previous statement.
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It doesn't change the fact that individual choice in a free society ought to be respected. There has to be a balance, otherwise we end up no different than China.
Gordy327 said:
Getting vaccinated during a pandemic is just common sense.
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No, it is a decision based on the individual reward vs the individual risk, not a one size fits all response, especially since the information has either changed or been manipulated more than once as we know. And there is also a LONG history of pharmaecita companies paying out BILLIONS in damages due to drugs which damaged people's health, so there are legitimate trust concerns people have, especially young and healthy people.
Gordy327 said:
When your "choice" has the possibility of affecting me and my or others health, then choosing to not be vaccinated is not to be respected, nor are you.
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Fine, don't respect me. But what are you basing this on with me personally? Have I even indicated whether or not I have been vaccinated or not to you? No, I haven't. So, basicaly all you are describing to me is a feeling you have about situations, without knowing actual reality. I could tell you I am vaccinated and then what, you respect me? Anyone could by lying about that, so far better for each of us to worry about ourselves, and stop attempting to control others, because you cannot control others... well, unless we to the China thing, and is that what you want?
 
Bodi said:
Why, you run away most of the time and do not respond...
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I'm sorry, did I miss one of your answers or questions to me? If so, please if you would repeat your response and I will do my best to give you my answer.

Thanks!
 
VySky said:
Man I’m glad I didn’t follow the herd.

The risk just wasn’t high enough to take a risky Covid vaccine.

That’s why everyone is avoiding the boosters.

The gig is finally up.
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bingo!
 
Super Chief said:
The subject is about covid vaccines. And there is no way for you to know for certain who around is vaccinated or not.
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and I don't know who is drugged and driving around me. What is your point?
 
Fledermaus said:
VySky is practically never right on things having to do with COVID.
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Your post would be more accurate if you left out the “practically” part.
 
Paradoxical said:
Because legacy news lies and propagandizes us is why.
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Yup people like you do their own research and don't listen to the lies. So what if you ended up badly sick with Covid and had to go to the ER, you sure showed the legacy news you don't mind paying a huge bill!
 
noonereal said:
and I don't know who is drugged and driving around me. What is your point?
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When you get in the car to drive to the grocery store are you unnaturally in fear of who may or who may not be DUI? If not, then why are you in such fear of who may or may not be vaccinated and boosted without you being able to personally see their CDC cards?

A reasonable approach would be to assume that some drivers may be DUI and to remain keenly aware all the time, and drive defensively. And when it comes to covid, assume that some of the people around you are infected, and then proceed in a manner which you feel best protects YOU in public.

You see your worldview seems to suggest that you would require roadblocks and DUI checkpoints in order to guarntee that there are no drunk/drugged drivers. But then what kind of society would be living in, where the state overreaches to enforce and punish people? Know of any countries like that? And if so, wouldn't you rather live there?
 
americanwoman said:
Yup people like you do their own research and don't listen to the lies. So what if you ended up badly sick with Covid and had to go to the ER, you sure showed the legacy news you don't mind paying a huge bill!
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I did wind up in the hospital with Covid and beat it and now have natural immunity and you don’t and many have had heart attacks and died from the shots.
 
Super Chief said:
When you get in the car to drive to the grocery store are you unnaturally in fear of who may or who may not be DUI? If not, then why are you in such fear of who may or may not be vaccinated and boosted without you being able to personally see their CDC cards?

A reasonable approach would be to assume that some drivers may be DUI and to remain keenly aware all the time, and drive defensively. And when it comes to covid, assume that some of the people around you are infected, and then proceed in a manner which you feel best protects YOU in public.

You see your worldview seems to suggest that you would require roadblocks and DUI checkpoints in order to guarntee that there are no drunk/drugged drivers. But then what kind of society would be living in, where the state overreaches to enforce and punish people? Know of any countries like that? And if so, wouldn't you rather live there?
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Really ridiculous post. Totally ridiculous post.
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We have checkpoints all the time in my town. Why doesn't your town?

My guess, you'd get far more folks endangering others in backwater towns than in my idyllic village.
 
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