#663 is the latest.
No school is forcing kids to eat anything. They can not eat. But when they are hungry healthy options are available. Kids if given the option will more often than not select poor choices over healthy ones. Nothing wrong with removing the poor choices.
I really don't think any one has a problem with this. The problem is Michelle Obama introduced it. Since it was her idea or she is the one pushing for it a bunch of people will oppose it. Let a Bush propose the same. 80% of those who oppose this will switch. Coincidently most of its supporters will suddenly oppose it.
then, would you suggest a national referendum?
Do you think kids should be served:
a. junk food
b. healthful food
Vote for one.
I would not care if Ronald Reagan, John Wayne, Santa Clause, or the tooth fairy came up with the program. I just do not believe in the feds bribing schools with taxpayer money, especially considering how much of the food is wasted.
c. A common sense mixture of both like they did before Moochelle's program existed. The kid's are not going to end up obese like Hillary Clinton merely over a school cafeteria serving Pizza or hamburgers once a week.
I would not care if Ronald Reagan, John Wayne, Santa Clause, or the tooth fairy came up with the program. I just do not believe in the feds bribing schools with taxpayer money, especially considering how much of the food is wasted.
Do you mean the alleged facebook or twitter photos that seem to be only posted on right wing blogs that do not list the schools that are serving those alleged lunches and the lack of school lunch menus to back up the claim?
Post #663 does not show the alleged prison food. It just says "The Ministry of Menu Enforcement has spoken." Perhaps you forgot to post some links, or some school lunch menus?
I keep getting this messageOceanside Unified School District Mobile Menus | School Lunch
Ransom school lunch menu I pulled online. Shows the horrible lunch conditions kids are forced to endure
Encouraging children to eat healthy is a much much better use of tax money than a lot of **** we waste money on.
Not only that, but it costs no more than feeding them junk food.
So, they really don't know. In fact, the first one is a study for waste that was occurring prior to the new standards, which shows that a lot of food was already being wasted by children (the new standards went into effect in 2010, the research was done from 2007-2009, only the analyses of the data was done after the new standards went into effect). The second one didn't compare the waste, only selected to track how much fruit and vegetable waste there was, which means that we have no clue how that compared to waste of food from before. Perhaps they are eating more of their other food choices than before. Maybe the fruits and veggies are now the main thing being thrown away as compared to before. We don't really know, but the research from before shows that there was a lot of waste of school lunch before the new standards came about.
The other research is actually more interesting and doesn't show anything I'm not familiar with. Yes, children have to have some incentives to eat/try new foods usually, particularly veggies and fruits. I wouldn't quite go with actual monetary bribes for eating the food but think the tokens are a good idea, especially for trying the different foods.
As for how much, that first study you posted gives a small idea, at least for middle school students of how much was getting wasted.
Encouraging children to eat healthy is a much much better use of tax money than a lot of **** we waste money on.
It's been stated that the new program food costs are higher, due to all the fresh fruits and vegetables.
Offer vs Serve is available for students, as is the option of having salad/fruit bars (which is what my son had last year in San Diego) and family style meal options, where the child only has to take 1/2 cup of fruit or veggies with every meal. 1/2 cup is not that much.
http://www.fns.usda.gov/sites/default/files/SP57-2014a.pdf
c. A common sense mixture of both like they did before Moochelle's program existed. The kid's are not going to end up obese like Hillary Clinton merely over a school cafeteria serving Pizza or hamburgers once a week.
Schools have a $1,000,000,000 dollar of food waste annually with the new program that started 2012/2013,
which hasn't been acknowledged.
In the school year of 2012/2013, 30.7 million children participated in the lunch program, and 21.5 million of these children received free and reduced-price lunch. Leaving only 9.2 paying regular price for lunch. So who is most likely producing a large portion of this food waste? Could it be those free or reduced-price lunches? Something to think about.
The interesting aspect was the many schools opting out, they have their priorities in the right place. Saying No to MO and will be designing their own healthy menus.
Thanks for the link, but it isn't anything new. They revised the old program from 2004 when childhood obesity was first recognized and new USDA regulations were incorporated into the national lunch program at that time.
Doesn't do much good when your not also teaching the parent how to feed the child.
.Shouldn't that be left to the taxpayers? Why do you get to decide?
Encouraging children to eat healthy is a much much better use of tax money than a lot of **** we waste money on.
Not only that, but it costs no more than feeding them junk food.
And again, you have no idea what it used to be annually, so it could easily have been the same. That $1B for over 98000 schools. That comes out to about $10K per school. Your link from earlier showed that the middle school studied threw away about $400K worth of trash before these new guidelines. Now, obviously they could easily have more students than the average school, but the point is that there has always been waste with school food. Unless you can find a study to compare waste to waste and show a significant increase, then you haven't proven anything.
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