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26 X World Champs said:Do you think it was Liberals who were pro-segregation, Jim Crow, Poll Tax etc? The people who thought that way then are in the Conservative Party today, not in the Liberal Party.
This does not mean that Conservatives as a whole are racially biased, obviously. It does mean that far more Conservatives are biased than Liberals...the whole point of this thread...and indisputable. What logic do you employ that would prove that Liberals are more biased than Conservatives?
Repeat...not all Conservatives are biased, racist or any less open minded than Liberals are re race....but there are far more Conservatives who are than Liberals. My god! How can you be Liberal and a racist? It makes no sense? It would be like saying that Pro-LIfers are more Pro-Choice than Pro-Choice people...it would be untrue and silly.
aquapub said:1) A hysteric like Che calling something "scientific" is highly suspect.
2) From where I sit, this conclusion is backwards as hell. It is conservatives who are always arguing for basing hiring, school admissions, etc. on merit rather than race. It is always liberals who feed blacks their baseless paranoid bigotry and tell them they are too inferior to achieve anything without race based handots.
The elitist snobs at the core of the left (the Arianna Huffingtons, John Kerrys, Ted Kennedys, etc.) are far more racist than the normal, mainstream, middle America at the core of the right. See "Democrats are for the rich" thread for facts to back up that description.
The left's racism can best be seen when they find a black person it is ok to unleash their bigotry on like Condi Rice and Colin Powell. The openly racist slurs, smears and cartoons about blacks who dare to be too responsible and self-respecting for the left are very revealing.
ptsdkid said:Lets not forget that it was a Republican in Abe Lincoln that first cut the shackles from the negros' ankles.
The republican party back than supported a larger government and are thus most likely tied into the current DNC. Besides it was the 1800's uhhh... I don't think you can draw much parralels anymore:roll:.
btw are you old? like a grandpa or something 'cuz only old people call black people negros.
RightatNYU said:Translation: I can't prove anything I said with any sort of evidence, so I'm going to put forth an Appeal to Belief and pray that it gets accepted as truth.
Che said:ptsdkid said:Lets not forget that it was a Republican in Abe Lincoln that first cut the shackles from the negros' ankles.
The republican party back than supported a larger government and are thus most likely tied into the current DNC. Besides it was the 1800's uhhh... I don't think you can draw much parralels anymore:roll:.
btw are you old? like a grandpa or something 'cuz only old people call black people negros.
I couldn't agree more. The same thing with the lynchings we're talking about. It was the early 1900's. I don't think you can draw parallels anymore.
Che said:liberals are always associated with the idea of being progressive. i.e. no drug laws, abortion, gay marriage. Conservatives on the other hand are ususally more traditional. i.e. merry christmas in the town square, anti-abortion, anti-gay marriage. Now since blacks were thought of as inferior before the 1960's, it was progressive to call blacks equal. My point is that the cons are traditional and thus would support jim crow because they had been used those laws and had been used to the entire physcology of being racist. The libs who are progressive would be the opposite
RightatNYU said:I repeat:
Aside from your own opinion, and the theory that "Well, it was like this 50 years ago so it must be the same now," do you have any proof? No.
Che said:obviously there is no proof saying that conservatives rightfully endorse the KKK but the study that I provided and the logic of traditionalism vs. progressivism are close.
FinnMacCool said:While conservatism does not always equal racism, it cannot be denied that conservatives have resisted every social reform from woman's rights to black civil liberties all throughout time. Every year, these conservatives die out to be replaced by progressive liberals who allow common sense to rule. That is why conservatism is a doomed to fail idealogy, at least in terms of social liberties.
“Emory University psychologist Drew Westen put self-identified Democratic and Republican partisans in brain scanners and asked them to evaluate negative information about various candidates. Both groups were quick to spot inconsistency and hypocrisy -- but only in candidates they opposed.”
"If anyone in Washington is skeptical about these findings, they are in denial," he said. "We have 50 years of evidence that racial prejudice predicts voting. Republicans are supported by whites with prejudice against blacks. If people say, 'This takes me aback,' they are ignoring a huge volume of research."
"When Senate Democrats successfully blocked three of President Bush's nominees for federal appeals-court judgeships in a 40-hour debate initiated by Republicans, Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Mass., told reporters that he would continue to oppose any "Neanderthal that is nominated by the president for any federal court."
Now I don't happen to believe Neanderthals ever existed. But, if they did, the implication is they were something less than human – beings lower on the evolutionary scale.
Kennedy was referring to men and woman like Miguel Estrada, a Hispanic, Texas Supreme Court Justice Priscilla Owen, a woman, Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Carolyn Kuhl, a woman, and California Supreme Court Justice Janice Rogers Brown, a black woman."
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http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=44019 (The Racist Democrats WorldNetDaily.com )
LMFAO, Ya buddy save for the fact that it was the Democrats who stood in the way of civil rights legislation proposed by the Republican party.
Affirmative action actually breaks down people into races so now rather than judgements passed on talents or abilities people are now being deciphered by their race in, effect the liberals have turned racism into a state sponsored institution.
doughgirl said:The article states....
Brain scanners? Ha ha I wonder if more of the poolsters were Democrats?
Who made up the list of questions?
The article says,
No ones denies there are racist people in America. To think otherwise would be ignorant and naïve.
Let us be reminded that….Republicans are the ones who fought to end slavery while the Democrats fought for States Rights and keeping slavery alive. Even after slavery it was the Democrats who fought for segregation and as a percentage more Republicans voted for the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 than did DEMOCRATS. Taht is fact.
Democrats have been feeding minorities negative information about Republicans and racism for years.
The Republican Party platform the year that Lincoln was elected President sought to prevent the spread of slavery. After Lincoln freed the slaves Black voters SUPPORTED the Republican Party for years. In 1956 Eisenhower received well over 33% of the Black vote. After slavery came the battle over segregation. In 1963 George Wallace was quoted as saying, “Segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever.”
Wallace was a racist and a DEMOCRAT.
In 1954 Orville Faubus attempted to stop desegregation in a public school in Little Rock.
He was a racist and a Democrat.
It was Eisenhower who sent in police to enforce the rule.
He was a Republican.
J. Edgar Hoover the head of the FBI received permission to wiretap Martin L King Jr.
Robert F. Kennedy gave Hoover permission.
He was a DEMOCRAT.
President Harry Truman once called fellow Congressman Adam Clayton Powell,“That damned ****** preacher.”
He was a Democrat.
Lyndon Johnson said, “I talk everything over with (my wife),” continuing,” Of course…I have a ****** maid, and I talk my problems over with her too.”
He was a Democrat.
Both parties I believe (as has history has shown), are filled with racist politicians. But as far as the party platform, the Republicans are far the ones who care the least what the color of your skin is and focus on what’s important, as Martin Luther King said, ”The content of your character.”
Trajan Octavian Titus said:Affirmative action actually breaks down people into races so now rather than judgements passed on talents or abilities people are now being deciphered by their race in, effect the liberals have turned racism into a state sponsored institution.
It's actually a way of saying we're sorry for all those years that crackers in pickup trucks from your part of the country whiped and enslaved them. When the slaves were emancipated, they had nothing. They started off in a disadvantage. They were poor, uneducated, and didn't know how to survive in the Capitalist American society they were brought up in. So, they continued what they had done all there lives and then since they were still poor were forced to pass it on to their kids. Thus they stay in the hole that was generously dug for them. For years after that, even if they were able to succeed, they were put down by Jim Crow laws and lynched. Now people realized how what we did was so horrible they try to make it up with AA, then they are called racists by the cons.
FinnMacCool said:So I guess after we're done "apologizing" to minorities, we should do the same to the whites who got ****ed over.
When people get ****ed over, its the same regardless of what race you are. Everyone should be treated equally regardless of race.
I don't recall this generation being subjected to slavery.whites who were ****ed over weren't slaves that were whiped and lynched daily.
FinnMacCool said:I don't recall this generation being subjected to slavery.
still they were dug a hole from the moment that they were emancipated. Besides many are still alive who were alive during the time of Jim Crow laws.
Seems to me that these "whites" were specifically chosen to participate.For their study, Nosek, Banaji and social psychologist Erik Thompson culled self-acknowledged views about blacks from nearly 130,000 whites, who volunteered online to participate in a widely used test of racial bias that measures the speed of people's associations between black or white faces and positive or negative words. The researchers examined correlations between explicit and implicit attitudes and voting behavior in all 435 congressional districts.
FinnMacCool said:I don't recall this generation being subjected to slavery.
true, but its not the same thing as slavery.First, a recent, still living often, prior generation was subject to racial discrimination.
ptsdkid said:I find liberals to be far more racist than Conservatives. Shall we take two of the more prominent Negro leaders in Jessie (keep hope alive) Jackson, and with Al (I support Tawanna Brawley's lies) Sharpton. Find me one sentence where either of these two have praised or shown support of a white man and I'll vote for Hillary in 2008. Wasn't it Jessie (k.h.a.) Jackson that referred to N.Y.C. as 'Hymietown?'
Liberal leaders like these two try hard to keep the minorities down and dependent on welfare. We all know the liberal platform has been to lobby for the poor, for the down and out, for the homeless by assuming the downtrodden negro of today is no better off than their ancesters on the plantations of servitude. If it isn't Al and Jessie demanding reparations from the white man--then it's Al and Jessie demanding cradle to grave benefits for their people without lifting a finger to help themselves.
Lets not forget that it was a Republican in Abe Lincoln that first cut the shackles from the negros' ankles.
Isn't it ironic that the Bush administration has more negroes in higher positions than any other. And everyone of these leaders got to that position in life without the aid of affirmative action or quota discriminations.
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