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He was not carrying a fake ID in apparently he passed the breathalyzer test that he was given.
I would as well. I'm not saying it didn't happen, but unlike other people, I'm not claiming to know what did happen.
And being a student at UVA doesn't give you the right to scream "****ing racists" at cops any more than being a cop gives you the right to beat someone.
I'd just like to see the beating that he got that resulted in 10 stitches. All of those people around on one of the busiest drinking nights of the year, and not one person got it on video?
One has a first amendment right, so, no it's not the same
Ten stitches anywhere in the face isn't that many.
I don't think I have a First Amendment right to walk into the center of Somerville, New Jersey and scream "You're ****ing racists" at the top of my lungs, am I? I would think I'd get arrested or told to stop at some point.
Sommerville? you stalking me? (I live near sommerville) lol
you might be asked to stop or get a fine for disturbing the peace, but if you are being manhandled by the man, yelling at him is actually protected speech unless you make a threat.
A breathalyzer test showed that Johnson was not intoxicated at the time of his arrest, Martin said. He said the student ended up with 10 stitches, lacerations on his forehead, multiple bruises and facial swelling.
Beating of UVA student prompts call to disempower alcohol officers - News - 1330 WHBL Sheboygan's News Radio
I would be pissed too if I was being aressted for somthing I did not do. disturbing the peace is a charge they lay on you when they have nothing to stand on.
Beating of UVA student prompts call to disempower alcohol officers - News - 1330 WHBL Sheboygan's News Radio
I would be pissed too if I was being aressted for somthing I did not do. disturbing the peace is a charge they lay on you when they have nothing to stand on.
I have seen it referred to as a couple different ways like after he was refused, the officers "pulled him aside" i.e. odds are they came up and jerked him by the arm and he reacted to that so they put him on the ground face first. If ABC officers are watching the place, they need to be on the inside where the violations happen, not outside looking to ambush people.
Still the samething. Since they charge you with it when they done wrongI think he got charged with obstruction of justice not disturbing the peace.
My gut tells me it's like this: (and my gut is sometimes very wrong so ...)
The guy was bar hopping with his friends. They already had a snoot full and got stopped at this one bar by the bouncer. Johnson has some words with the bouncer and the bouncer informs ABC cops this guy is drunk, underage and tried to get into the bar. ABC takes him over to the side, quickly see he's drunk - they get his id and find out he's under age. Johnson get's mouthy and abusive. Cops decide they're going to charge him and that he's too drunk to send home so they attempt to cuff him. He resist. They have to wrestle the guy to the ground where he is injured during the scuffle and bleeds. Johnson yells "racist" because even in his drunk state he knows someone would be getting it on camera.
Now... I might be 100% wrong and the cops may have beat the **** out of him but until such evidence is shown, that's what I think happened.
And being a student at UVA doesn't give you the right to scream "****ing racists" at cops any more than being a cop gives you the right to beat someone.
I think he got charged with obstruction of justice not disturbing the peace.
The police and ABC are known to be abusive does not excuse their abuse. I saw one article that indicates the sidewalk was spattered with his blood. I saw cellphone video taken after they had him down on the concrete while still in the process of cuffing him in which others were already yelling about his head bleeding. It is not clear to me if his charges is related to being drunk or because he told the officers what they were doing is f-ing racist. Seems a pretty unnecessary use of force to me either way.
They listed two charges - one was 18.2-388, which reads in part - "If any person profanely curses or swears or is intoxicated in public." The description only mentions public intoxication, but he apparently wasn't drunk.
The actual crime appears to be not showing proper respect to cops behaving like a$$holes. Thankfully they didn't shoot or taze him..... :roll:
If underage drinking (assuming that is what he was doing) warrants having your head busted against the pavement, what should be the punishment for white collar crimes? We don't need any judges and juries--we just need some God Fearing Police Officers to punish people with thousands in medical bills because the $25 fines are not keeping those people in their places.
You know some people just like to go to where the other people are without some nefarious intent. How dare a college student in a college town want to go into an Irish themed pub with St. Patty's Day upon us and all....
I don't think I have a First Amendment right to walk into the center of Somerville, New Jersey and scream "You're ****ing racists" at the top of my lungs, am I? I would think I'd get arrested or told to stop at some point.
No video of the beating has been posted, as of yet. However, I have seen the pictures which I have posted below of what he looked like and during the event.
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How do you know this??
I too like to see this beatting, however, from the wounds I would wonder what caused that severe of an injury that looks like a serious head wound from the blood splatter on his head. :shock:
Yeah, I am suprised he needed only ten stitches with how much he is bleeding in that photo. :shock: I am also surprised that their is no video in a college town full of college age kids that would die with out their phones.
Pathetic. Find a pic that makes him look as sweet and innocent as possible and then juxtapose it against the image of him bleeding.
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