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Stop Pretending Trump Is Not Who We Are (1 Viewer)

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"Harris decried Trump as a fascist, a petty tyrant. She called him divisive, angry, aggrieved. And that was a smart case to make if, deep down, most voters held democracy dear (except maybe they didn’t) and if so many of them weren’t already angry (except they were). ...But the voters heard her case, and they still found for the defendant. A politician who admires dictators and says he’ll be one for a day, whom former top aides regard as a threat to the Constitution — a document he believes can be “terminated” when it doesn’t suit him — has won power not for one day but for nearly 1,500 more. What was considered abnormal, even un-American, has been redefined as acceptable and reaffirmed as preferable.

The Harris campaign labored under the misapprehension, as did the Biden campaign before it, that more exposure to Trump would repel voters. They must simply have forgotten the mayhem of his presidency, the distaste that the former president surely inspired. ...It didn’t. America knew his type, too, and it liked it. Trump’s disinhibition spoke to and for his voters. He won because of it, not despite it. His critics have long argued that he is just conning his voters — making them feel that he’s fighting for them when he’s just in it for himself and his wealthy allies — but part of Trump’s appeal is that his supporters recognize the con, that they feel that they’re in on it.

...The rationalization of 2016 — that Trump was a protest vote by desperate Americans trying to send a message to the establishment of both parties — is no longer operative. The grotesque rally at Madison Square Garden, that carnival of insults against everyone that the speakers do not want in their America, was not an anomaly but a summation. It was Trumpism’s closing argument, and it landed.

...“We’re not going back,” Harris told us. The tragedy is not that this election has taken us back, but that it shows how there are parts of America’s history that we’ve never fully gotten past.


...The way to render Trump abnormal is not to insist that he is, or to find more excuses, or to indulge in the great and inevitable second-guessing of Democratic campaign strategy. It begins by recognizing that who we are is decided not only on Election Day — whether 2024 or 2016, or 2028 for that matter — but every day. Every day that we strive to be something other than what we’ve become."

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It makes sense when you study our violent, racist history.
 
Sounds like you should change your signature from

"He didn't say that. And if he did, he didn’t mean it. And if he did mean it, you didn’t understand. And if you did, it’s not a big deal. And if it is, others have said worse."

to

"Americans: He said it and we agree."
 
Sounds like you should change your signature from

"He didn't say that. And if he did, he didn’t mean it. And if he did mean it, you didn’t understand. And if you did, it’s not a big deal. And if it is, others have said worse."

to

"Americans: He said it and we agree."
This is true.
 
"Harris decried Trump as a fascist, a petty tyrant. She called him divisive, angry, aggrieved. And that was a smart case to make if, deep down, most voters held democracy dear (except maybe they didn’t) and if so many of them weren’t already angry (except they were). ...But the voters heard her case, and they still found for the defendant. A politician who admires dictators and says he’ll be one for a day, whom former top aides regard as a threat to the Constitution — a document he believes can be “terminated” when it doesn’t suit him — has won power not for one day but for nearly 1,500 more. What was considered abnormal, even un-American, has been redefined as acceptable and reaffirmed as preferable.

The Harris campaign labored under the misapprehension, as did the Biden campaign before it, that more exposure to Trump would repel voters. They must simply have forgotten the mayhem of his presidency, the distaste that the former president surely inspired. ...It didn’t. America knew his type, too, and it liked it. Trump’s disinhibition spoke to and for his voters. He won because of it, not despite it. His critics have long argued that he is just conning his voters — making them feel that he’s fighting for them when he’s just in it for himself and his wealthy allies — but part of Trump’s appeal is that his supporters recognize the con, that they feel that they’re in on it.

...The rationalization of 2016 — that Trump was a protest vote by desperate Americans trying to send a message to the establishment of both parties — is no longer operative. The grotesque rally at Madison Square Garden, that carnival of insults against everyone that the speakers do not want in their America, was not an anomaly but a summation. It was Trumpism’s closing argument, and it landed.

...“We’re not going back,” Harris told us. The tragedy is not that this election has taken us back, but that it shows how there are parts of America’s history that we’ve never fully gotten past.


...The way to render Trump abnormal is not to insist that he is, or to find more excuses, or to indulge in the great and inevitable second-guessing of Democratic campaign strategy. It begins by recognizing that who we are is decided not only on Election Day — whether 2024 or 2016, or 2028 for that matter — but every day. Every day that we strive to be something other than what we’ve become."

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It makes sense when you study our violent, racist history.
To be fair, Trump had less than 30% support from the eligible electorate. I'm not sure why the ones who didn't show up are so disenfranchised.
 
Sounds like you should change your signature from

"He didn't say that. And if he did, he didn’t mean it. And if he did mean it, you didn’t understand. And if you did, it’s not a big deal. And if it is, others have said worse."

to

"Americans: He said it and we agree."
About half of the Americans who bother to vote: He said it and we agree.

I’m in the other half.
 
To be fair, Trump had less than 30% support from the eligible electorate. I'm not sure why the ones who didn't show up are so disenfranchised.

If they did not care enough to show up... they deserve what's coming to them.
 
It wasn't half of Americans. It was half of those who showed up to vote. If you do the numbers based on eligible voters, it's less than 30%.
Right - I just edited my response to read:

About half of the Americans who bother to vote: He said it and we agree.

I’m in the other half.
 
It wasn't half of Americans. It was half of those who showed up to vote. If you do the numbers based on eligible voters, it's less than 30%.
go ahead, look under every rug to find a crumb.
 
About half of the Americans who bother to vote: He said it and we agree.

I’m in the other half.

So what about the 1/3rd that did not bother to vote? "He said, and we are fine with it" ?
 
Sounds like you should change your signature from

"He didn't say that. And if he did, he didn’t mean it. And if he did mean it, you didn’t understand. And if you did, it’s not a big deal. And if it is, others have said worse."

to

"Americans: He said it and we agree."

Maybe to “We got a lot of bad genes in our country right now.?” 😬
 
Maybe to “We got a lot of bad genes in our country right now.?” 😬

Nah... "genes" implies we inherited something and it's not our fault. It almost sounds like an excuse. Instead, these were people's views / opinions and ultimately choices.
 
"Harris decried Trump as a fascist, a petty tyrant. She called him divisive, angry, aggrieved. And that was a smart case to make if, deep down, most voters held democracy dear (except maybe they didn’t) and if so many of them weren’t already angry (except they were). ...But the voters heard her case, and they still found for the defendant. A politician who admires dictators and says he’ll be one for a day, whom former top aides regard as a threat to the Constitution — a document he believes can be “terminated” when it doesn’t suit him — has won power not for one day but for nearly 1,500 more. What was considered abnormal, even un-American, has been redefined as acceptable and reaffirmed as preferable.

The Harris campaign labored under the misapprehension, as did the Biden campaign before it, that more exposure to Trump would repel voters. They must simply have forgotten the mayhem of his presidency, the distaste that the former president surely inspired. ...It didn’t. America knew his type, too, and it liked it. Trump’s disinhibition spoke to and for his voters. He won because of it, not despite it. His critics have long argued that he is just conning his voters — making them feel that he’s fighting for them when he’s just in it for himself and his wealthy allies — but part of Trump’s appeal is that his supporters recognize the con, that they feel that they’re in on it.

...The rationalization of 2016 — that Trump was a protest vote by desperate Americans trying to send a message to the establishment of both parties — is no longer operative. The grotesque rally at Madison Square Garden, that carnival of insults against everyone that the speakers do not want in their America, was not an anomaly but a summation. It was Trumpism’s closing argument, and it landed.

...“We’re not going back,” Harris told us. The tragedy is not that this election has taken us back, but that it shows how there are parts of America’s history that we’ve never fully gotten past.


...The way to render Trump abnormal is not to insist that he is, or to find more excuses, or to indulge in the great and inevitable second-guessing of Democratic campaign strategy. It begins by recognizing that who we are is decided not only on Election Day — whether 2024 or 2016, or 2028 for that matter — but every day. Every day that we strive to be something other than what we’ve become."

Link

It makes sense when you study our violent, racist history.
No one said otherwise----Trump, however is NOT what a PRESIDENT should be---------------that was the point. He fooled you by making you think he was like you, and you bought into it.
 
To be fair, Trump had less than 30% support from the eligible electorate. I'm not sure why the ones who didn't show up are so disenfranchised.
I’m sure. It’s ignorance and denial of the real threat of Trump in the White House.
 
go ahead, look under every rug to find a crumb.
These aren’t crumbs under the rugs. These are dust bunnies the size of 8 point jackalopes, laying right in the human traffic pattern.
 
"Harris decried Trump as a fascist, a petty tyrant. She called him divisive, angry, aggrieved. And that was a smart case to make if, deep down, most voters held democracy dear (except maybe they didn’t) and if so many of them weren’t already angry (except they were). ...But the voters heard her case, and they still found for the defendant. A politician who admires dictators and says he’ll be one for a day, whom former top aides regard as a threat to the Constitution — a document he believes can be “terminated” when it doesn’t suit him — has won power not for one day but for nearly 1,500 more. What was considered abnormal, even un-American, has been redefined as acceptable and reaffirmed as preferable.

The Harris campaign labored under the misapprehension, as did the Biden campaign before it, that more exposure to Trump would repel voters. They must simply have forgotten the mayhem of his presidency, the distaste that the former president surely inspired. ...It didn’t. America knew his type, too, and it liked it. Trump’s disinhibition spoke to and for his voters. He won because of it, not despite it. His critics have long argued that he is just conning his voters — making them feel that he’s fighting for them when he’s just in it for himself and his wealthy allies — but part of Trump’s appeal is that his supporters recognize the con, that they feel that they’re in on it.

...The rationalization of 2016 — that Trump was a protest vote by desperate Americans trying to send a message to the establishment of both parties — is no longer operative. The grotesque rally at Madison Square Garden, that carnival of insults against everyone that the speakers do not want in their America, was not an anomaly but a summation. It was Trumpism’s closing argument, and it landed.

...“We’re not going back,” Harris told us. The tragedy is not that this election has taken us back, but that it shows how there are parts of America’s history that we’ve never fully gotten past.


...The way to render Trump abnormal is not to insist that he is, or to find more excuses, or to indulge in the great and inevitable second-guessing of Democratic campaign strategy. It begins by recognizing that who we are is decided not only on Election Day — whether 2024 or 2016, or 2028 for that matter — but every day. Every day that we strive to be something other than what we’ve become."

Link

It makes sense when you study our violent, racist history.
I quit saying that the minute Trump was elected in 2016. It is who we are.

Having said that, it is also true that the Democrats have not done nearly enough to appeal to working class voters. Running as a slightly liberal party ain't cutting it.

Working class voters are desperate and they don't care how vulgar, stupid, and corrupt Trump is. They want results that are going to dramatically improve their lives and the Democratic Party has not delivered nearly enough.
 
Let's be real. America is not the "shining city on a hill". We are the only country that has multiple mass shootings every year and the same country where politicians act like we should just accept that as a way of life. I love my country but I also recognize that we are morally bankrupt. And no, we don't need any gods to fix that because by and large the "god followers" are the ones who are in on it.
 
These aren’t crumbs under the rugs. These are dust bunnies the size of 8 point jackalopes, laying right in the human traffic pattern.
One mans flea is another mans jackalope
 
I quit saying that the minute Trump was elected in 2016. It is who we are.

Having said that, it is also true that the Democrats have not done nearly enough to appeal to working class voters. Running as a slightly liberal party ain't cutting it.

Working class voters are desperate and they don't care how vulgar, stupid, and corrupt Trump is. They want results that are going to dramatically improve their lives and the Democratic Party has not delivered nearly enough.
Actually, considering it’s opposition in Congress, I think the Democrat Party has delivered an astonishing amount. The fact that their messaging has failed to appeal to working class voters is not any indication of whether their policies have had a positive impact on them.
 
"Harris decried Trump as a fascist, a petty tyrant. She called him divisive, angry, aggrieved. And that was a smart case to make if, deep down, most voters held democracy dear (except maybe they didn’t) ....

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It makes sense when you study our violent, racist history.


And once again, the lefty shows that the left can't understand that people that disagree with them, DISAGREE with them.


THe left insists on judging people, as though the people that disagree with them, agree with them.


Specifically in this case, since the lefty thinks that Trump is a "fascist", then those that disagree with the dems on that, and think that Trump is NOT a fascist,


the lefties still see the other vote for Trump and conclude that it is BECAUSE the voter wants to support a ":fascist".


The inability to think, is complete.
 

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