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Stop massacare of unarmed and defenseless residents of Ashraf

omran

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Please sign the petition & share this petision
to prevent further massacare of unarmed and defenseless residents of Ashraf
Support Ashraf Petition
 
Please sign the petition & share this petision
to prevent further massacare of unarmed and defenseless residents of Ashraf
Support Ashraf Petition

Before you ask people to sign a petition, it might help if you inform them exactly what Ashraf is, where it is, who is doing the massacre, and why they are doing the massacre.

For those that do not know, he is talking about what is commonly known as Camp Ashraf.

Established in 1979, it was a refugee camp for those that fled the Islamic Revolution in Iran. Also, many of the early residents were political prisoners helf by the Revolution, and released to exile.

Early on, the camp became a center of organization at removing the rulling Theocracy, and establishing either a Republic, or a return of the Monarchy. Saddam allowed it to stay and even supported it, thinking it would help legitimize his rulership over Iran if he won the war.

The camp is named after Ashraf Rajavi, a female leader of the group and one of it's martyrs. In 1982 during the Iran-Iraq war, Ashraf and 19 others were taken prisoner when the compound wound up behind Iranian battle lines. They were taken to Tehran and executed.

Once the 2003 invasion had secured the area, the US Army assumed guardianship of the camp. It is pretty much a walled city, which helped protect it until they took charge. They were one of the communities that objected most to the US pulling out.

On 1 January 2009, the US officially handed jurisdiction of the camp and surrounding area. Since then, the water has been cut off to the residents, power is off more often then it is on, and Iraq has repeatedly tried to move in both the Army and it's own Police.

Since the January turnover, there have been several violent incidents, including attacks on unarmed civilians by both Iraqi military and civilian authorities. Also they have been accused of stopping food and fuel shipments into the city, and of blowing up the pipeline that supplies water to the community.

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Omran, you have to realize that most people here have never heard of Camp Ashraf. And most, thinking that if there was a massacre, that it was done by Americans.

And to me, this is yet another reason why we should not be in such a rush to depart Iraq. And doubtlessly there are more events like this happening, that are even less well known then this is.

And more are sure to occur, as the largest stabilization force pulls out, and leaves the minorities and political minorities to the justices of the New Iraq.
 

Well, his drive-by style of posting certainly does not help raise attention to this issue. He would probably do better if he tried to keep one thread going, instead of starting these one shot deals.

Although as I have noticed, people are amazingly insensitive to the plight of others, unless there is political gain to it. Look at Darfur. Most people simply did not care because it was happening to an unknown minority half a world away.
 
Well, his drive-by style of posting certainly does not help raise attention to this issue. He would probably do better if he tried to keep one thread going, instead of starting these one shot deals.

Although as I have noticed, people are amazingly insensitive to the plight of others, unless there is political gain to it. Look at Darfur. Most people simply did not care because it was happening to an unknown minority half a world away.

That is the sad truth :(
 
This is spam thread number 4 on this same subject.

I feel for the naive kids that the MEK lured out of Iran and all that. But where's the MEK frustration with the Rajavis et al for slaughtering Iraqis at Saddam Hussein's behest? If teh MEK hadn't betrayed their country by fight with Hussein against Iran and if they hadn't been Hussein's hired murderers, perhaps they wouldn't be in the situation they are in now.
Live by the sword, die by the sword.

Sazeman-e Monafeqin-e Khalq-e Iran
 
For those that do not know, he is talking about what is commonly known as Camp Ashraf.
You forgot to mention the various crimes and murders of the MEK against Iraqis, Iranians, Americans and Europeans.
Conveniently forgot to mention how they massacred for Saddam Hussein.
Don't leave that bit out.
They aren't innocent group that the mean old Iraqis want to get rid of for no good reason. The MEK spilled blood.

They are called monafeqin for a reason.
 
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This is spam thread number 4 on this same subject.

I feel for the naive kids that the MEK lured out of Iran and all that. But where's the MEK frustration with the Rajavis et al for slaughtering Iraqis at Saddam Hussein's behest? If teh MEK hadn't betrayed their country by fight with Hussein against Iran and if they hadn't been Hussein's hired murderers, perhaps they wouldn't be in the situation they are in now.
Live by the sword, die by the sword.

Sazeman-e Monafeqin-e Khalq-e Iran

I do not feel much pity for people that take up arms in an event like that. But I am sure that the people living in Ashraf that have done that are in the minority. Just like in any community.

And Ashraf is under seige. If people were killed by members of PMOI, then let them be brought to justice. Punishing an entire community for the actions of a few is wrong.

That is not justice, that is slaughter. And is like what Saddam did to the Kurds. Or the Suni of Iraq when he was in power.

Cutting off water, food, and fuel is not justice, that is punishment.
 
Even with very little knowledge about Iraq, the fact that different Iraqi factions would try to liquidate each other if Saddam was removed was predictable and predicted by analysts.

Kurds or no Kurds, oppression or no oppression, the situation became much worse after the US invasion.

It is very sad to note that some countries can only be held together by a dictator and things can only change gradually and not by suddenly removing the man who was holding it all together even if he was the devil himself.
 
Kurds or no Kurds, oppression or no oppression, the situation became much worse after the US invasion.

It is very sad to note that some countries can only be held together by a dictator and things can only change gradually and not by suddenly removing the man who was holding it all together even if he was the devil himself.

I would not say it is worse. While it still goes on, the systematic approach that Saddam used is no longer in play. And the death tolls are much much lower.

Sure you still have the snipers, and attacks. But you no longer have segments of the Army going in and slaughtering everybody in a villiage. Nor do you have his aircraft dropping mustard gas on them.

But this kind of thing has been seen before, even recently. And as bad as things are, they are nowhere near as bad as in the former Yugoslavia.
 
I would not say it is worse. While it still goes on, the systematic approach that Saddam used is no longer in play. And the death tolls are much much lower.

Sure you still have the snipers, and attacks. But you no longer have segments of the Army going in and slaughtering everybody in a villiage. Nor do you have his aircraft dropping mustard gas on them.

But this kind of thing has been seen before, even recently. And as bad as things are, they are nowhere near as bad as in the former Yugoslavia.

Almost 200,000 lives lost, that's all.
 
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