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Stolen children 'marketplace': Russia creates 'catalogue' of Ukrainian kids for adoption

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Russia is now offering forcefully deported Ukrainian minors for coerced “adoption” through a newly created “catalogue”, where Ukrainian children are categorised by age, eyes and hair colour.

Russia-installed occupation authorities in Ukraine’s Luhansk region created an online “catalogue” of Ukrainian children, offering them for coerced “adoption” through the education department.

The database includes 294 Ukrainian children, who are sorted and categorised so that the users can “filter” them by age, gender and physical traits, like eyes and hair colour.

The children are advertised for their character traits, with some described as "obedient" or "calm".

In numerous cases, the children are described as “polite and respectful towards the adults”, “disciplined” and “not conflictive” or “can be relied on to execute tasks”.

https://www.euronews.com/2025/08/08...ates-catalogue-of-ukrainian-kids-for-adoption


And our President is excited to meet the leader of this nation on American soil. I thought we could get no lower but I was wrong.
 

Russia is now offering forcefully deported Ukrainian minors for coerced “adoption” through a newly created “catalogue”, where Ukrainian children are categorised by age, eyes and hair colour.

Russia-installed occupation authorities in Ukraine’s Luhansk region created an online “catalogue” of Ukrainian children, offering them for coerced “adoption” through the education department.

The database includes 294 Ukrainian children, who are sorted and categorised so that the users can “filter” them by age, gender and physical traits, like eyes and hair colour.

The children are advertised for their character traits, with some described as "obedient" or "calm".


In numerous cases, the children are described as “polite and respectful towards the adults”, “disciplined” and “not conflictive” or “can be relied on to execute tasks”.

https://www.euronews.com/2025/08/08...ates-catalogue-of-ukrainian-kids-for-adoption


And our President is excited to meet the leader of this nation on American soil. I thought we could get no lower but I was wrong.
Thanks for reminding us of this WAR CRIME putin/Russia are responsible for.

Trafficking in kidnapped children does not seem to repel either our President or his political party.
 

Russia is now offering forcefully deported Ukrainian minors for coerced “adoption” through a newly created “catalogue”, where Ukrainian children are categorised by age, eyes and hair colour.

Russia-installed occupation authorities in Ukraine’s Luhansk region created an online “catalogue” of Ukrainian children, offering them for coerced “adoption” through the education department.

The database includes 294 Ukrainian children, who are sorted and categorised so that the users can “filter” them by age, gender and physical traits, like eyes and hair colour.

The children are advertised for their character traits, with some described as "obedient" or "calm".


In numerous cases, the children are described as “polite and respectful towards the adults”, “disciplined” and “not conflictive” or “can be relied on to execute tasks”.

https://www.euronews.com/2025/08/08...ates-catalogue-of-ukrainian-kids-for-adoption


And our President is excited to meet the leader of this nation on American soil. I thought we could get no lower but I was wrong.
This is heartbreaking and cruel. There is no limit as to how low the trump Fascist Party will go or Putin the blood thirsty war criminal will go. My heart goes out to those children and all affected by Putin's murderous invasion.

Peace and Freedom for Ukraine and its people.


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This is heartbreaking and cruel. There is no limit as to how low the trump Fascist Party will go or Putin the blood thirsty war criminal will go. My heart goes out to those children and all affected by Putin's murderous invasion.

Peace and Freedom for Ukraine and its people.


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Yep. The head of the Republican Party is refusing to hold to account the leader of the country that has been and is trafficking in children stolen from Ukraine.

(And who knows how many of these child victims have been sex-trafficked....the GOP and its adherents simply doesn't give a damn.)
 

Russia is now offering forcefully deported Ukrainian minors for coerced “adoption” through a newly created “catalogue”, where Ukrainian children are categorised by age, eyes and hair colour.

Russia-installed occupation authorities in Ukraine’s Luhansk region created an online “catalogue” of Ukrainian children, offering them for coerced “adoption” through the education department.

The database includes 294 Ukrainian children, who are sorted and categorised so that the users can “filter” them by age, gender and physical traits, like eyes and hair colour.

The children are advertised for their character traits, with some described as "obedient" or "calm".


In numerous cases, the children are described as “polite and respectful towards the adults”, “disciplined” and “not conflictive” or “can be relied on to execute tasks”.

https://www.euronews.com/2025/08/08...ates-catalogue-of-ukrainian-kids-for-adoption


And our President is excited to meet the leader of this nation on American soil. I thought we could get no lower but I was wrong.
I will lay odds all these kids lost their parents in the war. Why is this wrong?
 
I will lay odds all these kids lost their parents in the war. Why is this wrong?
Of course, you like to believe that.

It's almost certainly not true. BUT, even if it were, there are aid organizations to whom the Russian "rescuers" could have and should have given the children at the time they were "found".

But the Russians have not done that. They've sent the kidnapped kids to reeducation camps, they've adopted them out to Russian families, they have perhaps sex-trafficked some of them, and they've put others' faces and behavior description in catalogues.

There's simply no way to whitewash this war crime. The USA should not support it in any way.
 
Of course, you like to believe that.

It's almost certainly not true. BUT, even if it were, there are organizations to whom the Russian "rescuers" could have and should have given the children.

But the Russians have not done that. They've sent the kidnapped kids to reeducation camps, they've adopted them out to Russian families, they have perhaps sex-trafficked some of them, and they've put others' faces and behavior description in catalogues.

There's simply no way to whitewash this war crime. The USA should not support it in any way.
You have no proof. Only hate, propaganda, and slander.
 
You have no proof. Only hate, propaganda, and slander.
Post #7

You've said "there's no proof" to the wrong poster. I've been following this for some time now. It's outraged me to the point I have a file....

2022/11/23/opinion/russia-ukraine-children.html

The children left this town in August for a free summer camp sponsored by the Russian occupiers, enticed by assurances of gifts and of safety from constant shelling.

“The Russians promised it would be two or three weeks, and then the children would be back,” Nadia Borysenko, 29, told me. Her 12-year-old daughter, Daria, was among 25 children from this town in northeastern Ukraine who boarded a bus to the camp.

Russia did not return them, however. Daria and other children are now across the border in Russia, and Moscow is making it very difficult for families to recover their children.

The youngsters here are among many thousands of Ukrainian children whom Russia has taken from Ukraine and in some cases put up for adoption.

The Ukrainian government count is 11,461 children known by name and taken without families to Russia or Russian-controlled areas
....

Russia doesn’t hide the transfer of Ukrainian children but trumpets it on its television propaganda programs, portraying itself as the savior of abandoned children and showing Russians handing teddy bears to Ukrainian boys and girls.

Russia’s commissioner for children’s rights, Maria Lvova-Belova, boasted last month that she had adopted a Ukrainian boy, and many of these stolen children seem to have been adopted into Russian families.

That is not charity; it may be genocide. A 1948 international treaty specifies that “forcibly transferring children,” when intended to destroy a nationality, constitutes genocide....
 
Post #7

You've said "there's no proof" to the wrong poster. I've been following this for some time now. It's outraged me to the point I have a file....

2022/11/23/opinion/russia-ukraine-children.html

The children left this town in August for a free summer camp sponsored by the Russian occupiers, enticed by assurances of gifts and of safety from constant shelling.

“The Russians promised it would be two or three weeks, and then the children would be back,” Nadia Borysenko, 29, told me. Her 12-year-old daughter, Daria, was among 25 children from this town in northeastern Ukraine who boarded a bus to the camp.

Russia did not return them, however. Daria and other children are now across the border in Russia, and Moscow is making it very difficult for families to recover their children.

The youngsters here are among many thousands of Ukrainian children whom Russia has taken from Ukraine and in some cases put up for adoption.

The Ukrainian government count is 11,461 children known by name and taken without families to Russia or Russian-controlled areas....

Russia doesn’t hide the transfer of Ukrainian children but trumpets it on its television propaganda programs, portraying itself as the savior of abandoned children and showing Russians handing teddy bears to Ukrainian boys and girls.

Russia’s commissioner for children’s rights, Maria Lvova-Belova, boasted last month that she had adopted a Ukrainian boy, and many of these stolen children seem to have been adopted into Russian families.

That is not charity; it may be genocide. A 1948 international treaty specifies that “forcibly transferring children,” when intended to destroy a nationality, constitutes genocide....

February 14, 2023

Russia is running a sprawling network of camps as part of a systematic effort to relocate and re-educate thousands of children from Ukraine, according to a United States government-sponsored study released Tuesday.

The independent study by the Conflict Observatory, part of the Yale School of Public Health’s Humanitarian Research Lab and established by the State Department to gather evidence of human rights violations in Ukraine after Russia’s invasion, said it had definitively documented around 6,000 Ukrainian children being taken from their homes.

However, the total number of minors “potentially forcibly transferred” to Russia and Russian-occupied territories is likely much higher, even in the several hundred thousand, said Caitlin Howarth, the Conflict Observatory's director of operations.

The Russian program is a “systematic whole-of-government approach to the relocation, reeducation in some cases, adoption and forced adoption of Ukrainian children” involving at least 43 facilities in Russia and spanning all levels of the Russian government, said Nathaniel Raymond, one of the report’s authors and executive director of Yale’s Humanitarian Research Lab.

The age of the children documented in the report ranged from 4 months to 17 years, the study's authors said.

“The level of mass re-education is a very clear systematic attempt to erase the history, culture and language of Ukraine,” she told reporters in Washington during a presentation of the report....
 

February 14, 2023

Russia is running a sprawling network of camps as part of a systematic effort to relocate and re-educate thousands of children from Ukraine, according to a United States government-sponsored study released Tuesday.

The independent study by the Conflict Observatory, part of the Yale School of Public Health’s Humanitarian Research Lab and established by the State Department to gather evidence of human rights violations in Ukraine after Russia’s invasion, said it had definitively documented around 6,000 Ukrainian children being taken from their homes.

However, the total number of minors “potentially forcibly transferred” to Russia and Russian-occupied territories is likely much higher, even in the several hundred thousand, said Caitlin Howarth, the Conflict Observatory's director of operations.

The Russian program is a “systematic whole-of-government approach to the relocation, reeducation in some cases, adoption and forced adoption of Ukrainian children” involving at least 43 facilities in Russia and spanning all levels of the Russian government, said Nathaniel Raymond, one of the report’s authors and executive director of Yale’s Humanitarian Research Lab.

The age of the children documented in the report ranged from 4 months to 17 years, the study's authors said.

“The level of mass re-education is a very clear systematic attempt to erase the history, culture and language of Ukraine,” she told reporters in Washington during a presentation of the report....
Amnesty International, nbcnews, and the nytimes are all complicit in @Lord of Planar's claim in Post #7 of lies, "hate, propaganda, and slander"?

I think not.


February 14, 2025

...The study’s authors added that the actions described in the report are a violation of the Geneva Convention — which prohibits the change of a child’s personal status, including nationality — and may constitute a war crime or crimes against humanity.

International human rights groups like Amnesty International have also documented the forced relocation of thousands of Ukrainian civilians. In November, Amnesty highlighted the “plight of unaccompanied, separated or orphaned children,” deeming the cases as “particularly concerning.”...
 

Russia is now offering forcefully deported Ukrainian minors for coerced “adoption” through a newly created “catalogue”, where Ukrainian children are categorised by age, eyes and hair colour.

Russia-installed occupation authorities in Ukraine’s Luhansk region created an online “catalogue” of Ukrainian children, offering them for coerced “adoption” through the education department.

The database includes 294 Ukrainian children, who are sorted and categorised so that the users can “filter” them by age, gender and physical traits, like eyes and hair colour.

The children are advertised for their character traits, with some described as "obedient" or "calm".


In numerous cases, the children are described as “polite and respectful towards the adults”, “disciplined” and “not conflictive” or “can be relied on to execute tasks”.

https://www.euronews.com/2025/08/08...ates-catalogue-of-ukrainian-kids-for-adoption


And our President is excited to meet the leader of this nation on American soil. I thought we could get no lower but I was wrong.

Disgusting and horrific.
 
Amnesty International, nbcnews, and the nytimes are all complicit in @Lord of Planar's claim in Post #7 of lies, "hate, propaganda, and slander"?

I think not.


February 14, 2025

...The study’s authors added that the actions described in the report are a violation of the Geneva Convention — which prohibits the change of a child’s personal status, including nationality — and may constitute a war crime or crimes against humanity.

International human rights groups like Amnesty International have also documented the forced relocation of thousands of Ukrainian civilians. In November, Amnesty highlighted the “plight of unaccompanied, separated or orphaned children,” deeming the cases as “particularly concerning.”...
13 months into putin's unprovoked and unwarranted invasion of and attack on the country and people of Ukraine:

2023/03/17/1164267436/international-criminal-court-arrest-warrant-putin-ukraine-alleged-war-crimes

The International Criminal Court has issued an arrest warrant for Russian President Vladimir Putin for alleged war crimes involving accusations that Russia has forcibly taken Ukrainian children.

The ICC also issued a warrant for Putin's commissioner for children's rights, Maria Lvova-Belova.

The court said in a news release Friday the two are "allegedly responsible for the war crime of unlawful deportation of population (children) and that of unlawful transfer of population (children) from occupied areas of Ukraine to the Russian Federation."

The move by the criminal court at the Hague marked a significant step, requesting the arrest of a sitting world leader...

Ukrainian Prosecutor General Andriy Kostin called the court's decision "historic."

Like the United States, Ukraine is also not a party to the ICC. But Kostin noted that the Ukrainian government has cooperated with the court on criminal investigations in its territory. He said his office handed more than 1,000 pages of documents over to the ICC regarding the alleged forcible deportation of children to Russia....

ICC President Piotr Hofmanski said the judges decided to make these warrants public to try to deter further crimes.

"It is forbidden by international law for occupying powers to transfer civilians from the territories where they live to other territories," he said. "Children enjoy special protection under the Geneva Convention."...

While Russia has vigorously rejected allegations of war crimes committed by its forces in Ukraine, it has made little secret of relocating Ukrainian children to Russia — presenting it as a noble humanitarian effort.

President Putin hosted Lvova-Belova, the children's rights commissioner, for a meeting at the Kremlin in February in which the two openly discussed Russian adoption programs for Ukrainian children in occupied territories in Ukraine — including Lvova-Belova's new teenage son.

A transcript of the conversation is posted on the Kremlin's website.

"You also adopted a child from Mariupol, is that right?" asked Putin.

"Yes, Vladimir Vladimirovich," Lvova-Belova responded, using the Russian leader's patronymic. "Thanks to you."

It was a remarkable admission: Ukraine halted adoptions after Russia invaded the country, and international children's rights groups say countries have an obligation under international law to prohibit adoptions of Ukrainian children during wartime....
 
Amnesty International, nbcnews, and the nytimes are all complicit in @Lord of Planar's claim in Post #7 of lies, "hate, propaganda, and slander"?

I think not.


February 14, 2025

...The study’s authors added that the actions described in the report are a violation of the Geneva Convention — which prohibits the change of a child’s personal status, including nationality — and may constitute a war crime or crimes against humanity.

International human rights groups like Amnesty International have also documented the forced relocation of thousands of Ukrainian civilians. In November, Amnesty highlighted the “plight of unaccompanied, separated or orphaned children,” deeming the cases as “particularly concerning.”...
Planar is projecting. There is no one that hates, slanders and propagandizes like Trump and his MAGA scum. They have sold their souls to the devil.
 
I will lay odds all these kids lost their parents in the war. Why is this wrong?


Its truly bizarre and surreal the hand wringing. Am I supposed to believe the western wars in Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan left no children destitute? The western armies abandoned them to their fate, Somehow the army that collected the children is committing war crimes! Go Figure
 
Its truly bizarre and surreal the hand wringing. Am I supposed to believe the western wars in Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan left no children destitute? The western armies abandoned them to their fate, Somehow the army that collected the children is committing war crimes! Go Figure
Stealing children from war zones is genocidal and that is why it is a war crime. Telling parents their children are going to summer camp and then whisking them away to Russia never to return is an atrocity and you are complicit. I hope your children suffer the same fate.
 
Its truly bizarre and surreal the hand wringing. Am I supposed to believe the western wars in Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan left no children destitute? The western armies abandoned them to their fate, Somehow the army that collected the children is committing war crimes! Go Figure
Um...Ukraine still has a working government. You're supposed to return the children to it. Just because Russia murdered their parents doesn't mean these are "free kids" to pick up and hand over to a Russian family consisting of a brain-damaged former special military operator and his grief-struck wife upset that he didn't come home in a wooden box with an envelope of coffin money on top.
 
Why is what wrong? Murdering their parents?


Estimates of fatalities in the Iraqi adventure run into the hundreds of thousands; what did the western invaders do with the probably tens of thousands of children left destitute? They took what has to be the moral high ground from the western perspective: abandon them to their fate
 
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