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Stocks kick off Christmas week with record highs

You want data and proof? Let me give you some:

Here is a recent one regarding this tax cut. Read the whole article with the graphs included and get some of the information you seek.



Tax cuts have occurred 6 times over the past 70 years and in the long term no benefits were seen from those tax cuts:

The link below is to an article that shows through graphs how GDP reacted immediately and a few years after a tax cut.



As far as the trade war is concerned, here are a couple of articles regarding what it has cost us.



You asked for data and fact. I have supplied it. Now, what excuse are you going to use?

One more time, post the economic results that have impacted the American people and explain to us all how Trump's approval rating on the economy has risen to 54%? None of what you posted change the reality that we have had 6.5 million jobs created, 2.7 trillion added to GDP, record state, local and charitable revenue all coming from verifiable official sources. none of what you posted can be quantified by actual data. Our economy is now approach 23 trillion dollars so tariffs aren't hurting our economy like you claim. Care to explain to us how people invest with you without having more spendable income?

No benefits seen from tax cuts?? OMG, do you know what goes on inside the homes of the American taxpayers? Do you understand truly what a tax cut is?? There have been only 3 tax cuts in the last 40 years, Reagan, GW Bush, and Trump. Temporary tax cuts like payroll taxes cut funding for SS and give the economy a sugar high but leaves long term damage in the shortfall to SS and Medicare

Until you post bea.gov, bls.gov data you have offered nothing of value and obviously the American people are the final arbitrator of the results with their poll numbers and then the election
 
One more time, post the economic results that have impacted the American people and explain to us all how Trump's approval rating on the economy has risen to 54%? None of what you posted change the reality that we have had 6.5 million jobs created, 2.7 trillion added to GDP, record state, local and charitable revenue all coming from verifiable official sources. none of what you posted can be quantified by actual data. Our economy is now approach 23 trillion dollars so tariffs aren't hurting our economy like you claim. Care to explain to us how people invest with you without having more spendable income?

No benefits seen from tax cuts?? OMG, do you know what goes on inside the homes of the American taxpayers? Do you understand truly what a tax cut is?? There have been only 3 tax cuts in the last 40 years, Reagan, GW Bush, and Trump. Temporary tax cuts like payroll taxes cut funding for SS and give the economy a sugar high but leaves long term damage in the shortfall to SS and Medicare

Until you post bea.gov, bls.gov data you have offered nothing of value and obviously the American people are the final arbitrator of the results with their poll numbers and then the election

Read the articles in the links I sent you. I am not going to continue to argue with a person that lives in a fantasy world of his own making.

I have at no time said that the economy is bad. The stock market has moved up 11,000 points under the Trump administration and unemployment has continued to drop. Nonetheless, we are not talking about the present but about the future. I have clearly stated (but you have ignored) that further benefits need to happen for it all "to continue" and you argue back about what has happened so far and what it means. I am not fighting you on that front. I am just saying that it is all factored in now and for it to continue, more needs to happen.

I have also clearly stated since I came to this board that the economy is the only thing that Trump can claim victory on. As far as unity, as far as immigration, as far as the Constitution and the laws, as far as infrastructure, as far as emotional peace and happiness, as far as health is concerned, he has failed miserably. . In addition, since the tax cut was done, he has done absolutely nothing positive on any front. Isn't a president supposed to continue to improve the life of the nation, or just sit back and take credit for one thing that worked out well for him?

I have no desire to continue our conversation as I see I am facing a man that is blind and deaf and that doesn't worry about the future but just sits back and lauds the past.

It is like winning the lottery. How much good is that if the person that won the lottery becomes an a**hole because of it and does everything wrong?

By the way, I have not seen you be willing to put your money where your mouth is. How come?
 
Read the articles in the links I sent you. I am not going to continue to argue with a person that lives in a fantasy world of his own making.

I have at no time said that the economy is bad. The stock market has moved up 11,000 points under the Trump administration and unemployment has continued to drop. Nonetheless, we are not talking about the present but about the future. I have clearly stated (but you have ignored) that further benefits need to happen for it all "to continue" and you argue back about what has happened so far and what it means. I am not fighting you on that front. I am just saying that it is all factored in now and for it to continue, more needs to happen.

I have also clearly stated since I came to this board that the economy is the only thing that Trump can claim victory on. As far as unity, as far as immigration, as far as the Constitution and the laws, as far as infrastructure, as far as emotional peace and happiness, as far as health is concerned, he has failed miserably. . In addition, since the tax cut was done, he has done absolutely nothing positive on any front. Isn't a president supposed to continue to improve the life of the nation, or just sit back and take credit for one thing that worked out well for him?

I have no desire to continue our conversation as I see I am facing a man that is blind and deaf and that doesn't worry about the future but just sits back and lauds the past.

It is like winning the lottery. How much good is that if the person that won the lottery becomes an a**hole because of it and does everything wrong?

By the way, I have not seen you be willing to put your money where your mouth is. How come?

I don't give a **** about the articles I care about the official data and you have offered NONE. How do you explain the 54% approval rating for Trump on the economy? Record low African American Unemployment, Historic low U-6, record state and local gov't revenue, record charitable contributions and 2.7 trillion in GDP growth in less than 3 years? Not bad failure!!

I don't make wagers on the internet
 
I don't give a **** about the articles I care about the official data and you have offered NONE. How do you explain the 54% approval rating for Trump on the economy? Record low African American Unemployment, Historic low U-6, record state and local gov't revenue, record charitable contributions and 2.7 trillion in GDP growth in less than 3 years? Not bad failure!!

I don't make wagers on the internet

Okey dokey. I will then depart but leave you with these pictures. Enjoy them:

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Thanks for the great pictures, will be voting for Trump again in 2020 as will most of the country who recognizes what you can't, RESULTS!! Something to think about

The Salty Sailor and Fireman Analysis by Karen Vaughn | Gun and Game - The Friendliest Gun Discussion Forum Online

The views this mother has about Donald Trump are much like many other people. Her characterization of Trump as the "Salty Sailor" or as “The Fireman” paint an excellent picture!! She has written many great books about her son and family. This is a comment from KAREN VAUGHN, Mother of Aaron Vaughn, Navy Seal.

"Sometimes God uses the no-nonsense, salty sailor to get the job done. Appreciating what the man is doing doesn't mean we worship the salty sailor or even desire to be like the salty sailor. It doesn't even mean God admires the salty sailor. Maybe He just knows he's necessary for such a time as this.

I believe with all my heart that God placed that salty sailor in the White House to give this nation one more chance in November 2020. Donald Trump is what he is – and he is still the man he was before the election – and without guilt. I very much admire what that salty sailor is accomplishing.

He's not like me. That's okay with me. I don't want to be like him. I will never behave like him. I know we've NEVER had a man like him lead our nation before. It's crazy and a little mind-blowing at times, but I can't help admire the stamina and ability he has – acting with his heart rather than a calculated, PC, think tank-screened, carefully edited script. I still believe that is WHY he became our President and WHY he's been able to handle a landslide of adversity and STILL pass unprecedented amounts of good legislation for our country AND do great works for MANY other nations, including Israel.

I'm THRILLED with what he's doing for my nation, for the cause of Christ (whether intentional or unintentional, doesn't matter to me), and for the concept of rebuilding America and putting her FIRST. I will not be ashamed of my position because others don't see him through the same lens.

Should it matter to me if a fireman drops an f-bomb while he's pulling me from a burning building? Would I really care about what came out of his mouth in those moments? Heck no! I'd CARE about what he was DOING. He wasn't sent there to save my soul and I'm not looking to him for spiritual guidance. All I'm thinking in those moments is, "Thank you, GOD, for sending the fireman." AND DONALD TRUMP IS OUR FIREMAN.

I'll soon post this article again for those who still might not understand me. This man is crass. Okay. He's not careful with what he says. Okay. You feel offended that he's not a typical statesman. Okay. But he is DOING THE JOB of rebuilding the nation my son died for... the nation I feared was on a fast track to becoming a hopeless cause.

Forgive me if I'm smiling."

Written by KAREN VAUGH
 
The stock market is fake. It does not reflect the economy. Whenever there is any kind of bubble, people expect it to continue inflating forever. Pop.:eek:
 
Thanks for the great pictures, will be voting for Trump again in 2020 as will most of the country who recognizes what you can't, RESULTS!! Something to think about

The Salty Sailor and Fireman Analysis by Karen Vaughn | Gun and Game - The Friendliest Gun Discussion Forum Online

The views this mother has about Donald Trump are much like many other people. Her characterization of Trump as the "Salty Sailor" or as “The Fireman” paint an excellent picture!! She has written many great books about her son and family. This is a comment from KAREN VAUGHN, Mother of Aaron Vaughn, Navy Seal.



I'll soon post this article again for those who still might not understand me. This man is crass. Okay. He's not careful with what he says. Okay. You feel offended that he's not a typical statesman. Okay. But he is DOING THE JOB of rebuilding the nation my son died for... the nation I feared was on a fast track to becoming a hopeless cause.

Forgive me if I'm smiling."

Written by KAREN VAUGH

I am smiling too because I know that God never uses evil to accomplish his goals. He uses sacrifice (Jesus), persistence (Moses), St. Peter and St. Mathias to show things such as forgiveness, love, honor and respect. He did have Judas to show how the opposite of good is evil. In addition, God is all about humility, understanding and forgiveness, which Trump is definitely not.

It is possible that Trump symbolizes Judas as a lesson on what not to do and how evil men do evil things.

For you to even suggest that God is using Trump to do good things is beyond my ability to understand other than it may be coming from a person that worships the opposite of good. God was never about economics and money and that is all the Trump is about. It is much more likely that Satan sent Trump as Satan is all about greed, avarice and hate.

By the same token, your post has clearly shown what is in your heart and mind..................and none of it is for the good of mankind.

Your lack of honor and respect for what is good and sacred is something I refuse to accept and much less debate about. Evil never listens to anything. Their goal is the opposite. Doing evil is its goal. I am a Christian and believe what God preaches. This post of your puts you in a category of person that I have no desire to ever talk to again.

Good bye.
 
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Yes, so what? Obama lost the house in 2010-2012-2014-2016 and the Senate in 2014-2016 and got 4 million fewer votes in 2012 than 2008, the only President in history that got fewer re-election votes than the original. Your loyalty to Obama defines you as a liberal not an independent as independents do research and verify what they are being told before creating an opinion

He got 4 million less votes in 2012 and STILL had more votes than Trump got in 2016. Sure you want to use that as some sort of positive? He also got more electoral votes with those 4 million fewer votes than Trump got in 2016.

Great post.
 
I am smiling too because I know that God never uses evil to accomplish his goals. He uses sacrifice (Jesus), persistence (Moses), St. Peter and St. Mathias to show things such as forgiveness, love, honor and respect. He did have Judas to show how the opposite of good is evil. In addition, God is all about humility, understanding and forgiveness, which Trump is definitely not.

It is possible that Trump symbolizes Judas as a lesson on what not to do and how evil men do evil things.

For you to even suggest that God is using Trump to do good things is beyond my ability to understand other than it may be coming from a person that worships the opposite of good. God was never about economics and money and that is all the Trump is about. It is much more likely that Satan sent Trump as Satan is all about greed, avarice and hate.

By the same token, your post has clearly shown what is in your heart and mind..................and none of it is for the good of mankind.

Your lack of honor and respect for what is good and sacred is something I refuse to accept and much less debate about. Evil never listens to anything. Their goal is the opposite. Doing evil is its goal. I am a Christian and believe what God preaches. This post of your puts you in a category of person that I have no desire to ever talk to again.

Good bye.

Evil?? OMG, It obviously is evil to put America first, require people to accept personal responsibility, allow people to keep more of what they earn, create millions of jobs, putting African Americans to work rather than on the streets? You really have no idea what evil is but it begins with creating dependence and then capitalizing on that dependence for your own personal gain!

You are a true liberal promoting spending in the name of compassion yet never getting compassionate results except for the bureaucrats running the programs. People taking care of themselves and their family is compassionate. Stop reading left wing blogs, take a civics and history class and you are going to be shocked at where the real problems lie
 
He got 4 million less votes in 2012 and STILL had more votes than Trump got in 2016. Sure you want to use that as some sort of positive? He also got more electoral votes with those 4 million fewer votes than Trump got in 2016.

Great post.

Keep ignoring failure and keep ignoring history all to prop up failure, why such loyalty to Obama and liberalism? what really matters and you want to ignore is he got fewer votes in 12 than 08 and lost the House AGAIN. You really have no understanding other than what the mainstream media tells you about the Democratic Party. Rather sad to see people like you supporting the liberal agenda and liberal lies
 
Evil?? OMG, It obviously is evil to put America first, require people to accept personal responsibility, allow people to keep more of what they earn, create millions of jobs, putting African Americans to work rather than on the streets? You really have no idea what evil is but it begins with creating dependence and then capitalizing on that dependence for your own personal gain!

You are a true liberal promoting spending in the name of compassion yet never getting compassionate results except for the bureaucrats running the programs. People taking care of themselves and their family is compassionate. Stop reading left wing blogs, take a civics and history class and you are going to be shocked at where the real problems lie

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How many of those shirts did you buy for yourself, your family and the other liberals that pay any attention to you?

BEA.gov, BLS.gov, and Treasury.org make you look like the left wing fool that the radicals want you to be. Keep supporting that failed ideology and I will continue to celebrate success
 
Stocks kick off Christmas week with record highs | Fox Business

Merry Christmas!! Thank you President Trump for the pro private sector policies and our 401k's but hopefully for Christmas that you will receive a gag for the mouth, stop talking for that is what motivates the left and gives them the opportunity to divert from the results being generated including the 6.5 million jobs created since January 2017, more than the number of jobs created from January-April 2008 and January 2017(6 million jobs)

Remember what happens after a 'boom' period? Yes, you guessed it; 'bust', just as sure as the sun rises, and which history has proven time and again. Enjoy your temporary sugar high, while it lasts. Who will you thank when the market goes tits-up, as it inevitably will, or do you imagine you're in for infinite prosperity?

Boom And Bust Cycle
 
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Remember what happens after a 'boom' period? Yes, you guessed it; 'bust', just as sure as the sun rises. Enjoy your temporary sugar high, while it lasts. Who will you thank when the market goes tits-up?

Boom And Bust Cycle

Aw, yes, another liberal who cannot celebrate success and one that prays for failure so as to implement that liberal utopia that exists nowhere else in the world including your country. Didn't you just get your asses handed to you in the last election?? Why is it so hard for people like you to accept the reality that the private sector taking care of itself is the only viable course for gov't revenue as printing and borrowing is what most world countries do?
 
Aw, yes, another liberal who cannot celebrate success and one that prays for failure so as to implement that liberal utopia that exists nowhere else in the world including your country. Didn't you just get your asses handed to you in the last election?? Why is it so hard for people like you to accept the reality that the private sector taking care of itself is the only viable course for gov't revenue as printing and borrowing is what most world countries do?

Praying for failure? No, just relying on historical precedent for my facts. Ignore it at your peril. I'm British; nobody 'handed' me anything in the last election. As far as borrowing and printing is concerned I suggest you reference 'quantitative easing' and how it relates to the US:

You better believe the Fed is doing quantitative easing — and here are the beneficiaries - MarketWatch
 
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How many of those shirts did you buy for yourself, your family and the other liberals that pay any attention to you?

BEA.gov, BLS.gov, and Treasury.org make you look like the left wing fool that the radicals want you to be. Keep supporting that failed ideology and I will continue to celebrate success

Is that all you've got (insults) to debate with? PATHETIC!
 
Is that all you've got (insults) to debate with? PATHETIC!

So posting where to get the official data is an insult?? That explains a lot of your problems, you aren't open to accepting actual data and facts just left wing opinions. For someone who claims to be a trader you really have no understanding where investment money comes from, do you?
 
Seems you like the radical left here are out of touch with reality totally ignoring how unpopular your ideology is

My reality relates to Tory cuts which have decimated our health service, our police, armed services and emergency services. My reality is the 10 years of austerity imposed on me by the Tories. My reality is no real-world wage rises for Britons in general for all the years of Tory rule. My reality is the billions spent by Tories on a useless aircraft carrier with no role, no aircraft and no immunity to Russian missile attacks.

Damning figures show devastating impact of a decade of Tory cuts across UK - Mirror Online

These brutal cuts to the NHS will haunt the Conservatives | Polly Toynbee | Opinion | The Guardian

Tory plans for local government will lead to further cuts to services, say IFS | PoliticsHome.com

That's conservative reality, and you're welcome to it.
 
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My reality relates to Tory cuts which have decimated our health service, our police, armed services and emergency services. My reality is the 10 years of austerity imposed on me by the Tories. My reality is no real-world wage rises for Britons in general for all the years of Tory rule. My reality is the billions spent by Tories on a useless aircraft carrier with no role, no aircraft and no immunity to Russian missile attacks.

Damning figures show devastating impact of a decade of Tory cuts across UK - Mirror Online

These brutal cuts to the NHS will haunt the Conservatives | Polly Toynbee | Opinion | The Guardian

LOL, again denial of the election results and what caused them. All opinion pieces from left wing rags that you want to believe. Why is it you have such a problem keeping more of what you earn?

Your country's problems are like most of Europe, the cost of liberal economic policies and massive dependence on gov't spending for your economy
 
LOL, again denial of the election results and what caused them. All opinion pieces from left wing rags that you want to believe. Why is it you have such a problem keeping more of what you earn?

Your country's problems are like most of Europe, the cost of liberal economic policies and massive dependence on gov't spending for your economy

No, your 'opinion pieces' are actually facts which you predictably dismiss. Please explain how decades of conservative government magically translates to "liberal economic policies". This should be entertaining...
 
No, your 'opinion pieces' are actually facts which you predictably dismiss. Please explain how decades of conservative government magically translates to "liberal economic policies". This should be entertaining...

My opinion pieces? Really? BEA.gov and BLS.gov in the U.S. are opinion pieces? What is it about liberalism that creates this kind of loyalty and arrogance?

As for your economy, any idea what percentage of it relies on gov't spending? Compare that to the U.S. thus my post stands
 
My opinion pieces? Really? BEA.gov and BLS.gov in the U.S. are opinion pieces? What is it about liberalism that creates this kind of loyalty and arrogance?

As for your economy, any idea what percentage of it relies on gov't spending? Compare that to the U.S. thus my post stands

Do try to keep up. You suggested (post #147), that my links were 'opinion pieces'. My cat has a longer attention span than you.
 
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