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Steve Bannon in 2016: legal immigration is the real “problem"

countryboy said:
That's your proof? Let's see some "White Nationalist" rhetoric from Bannon. I really don't know anything about him, so educate me.
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Sure you do .
 
Re: Steve Bannon in 2016: legal immigration is the real “problem"

countryboy said:
Bull****, White Nationalists would say white this and white that. They don't mince words. Try again.
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trump is Bannon's bitch .
 
countryboy said:
Is flooding the market with low wage workers good for wages? Yes, or no.
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False-equivalency.

Why are GOP lawmakers sending messages to world leaders to reassure them?

Breitbart Bannon Bros
 
countryboy said:
So this is what you're reduced to? Idiotic nonsense? Shocker. :yawn:

You literally have nothing.
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Just responding to what Bannon/trump have done to our Nation .
 
NIMBY said:
Just responding to what Bannon/trump have done to our Nation .
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It hasn't even been two weeks. Your overreaction is comical.
 
coldjoint said:
It hasn't even been two weeks. Your overreaction is comical.
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It hasn't even been two weeks. Bannon/trump are destroying our Nation .
 
NIMBY said:
Your post describes the respect trump/Bannon have in this world .
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What is so great about the world? I see nothing but problems out there.
 
JC Callender said:
Bannon appears to be talking about 61 million people here on work visas flooding our job market and how it's not good for the American worker. Did you read something else?
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61 million? I think you are off by magnitudes^2. Go find a cite to support your number.

If people just took the step of checking their facts before posting, they might just learn the problem they are all excited about just isn't there.
 
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upsideguy said:
61 million? I think you are off by magnitudes^2. Go find a cite to support your number.

If people just took the step of checking their facts before posting, they might just learn the problem they are all excited about just isn't there.
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I have a challenge for you... be the first leftist today to read the article in the O.P..
 
rocket88 said:
Steve Bannon in 2016: legal immigration is the real ?problem" - Vox

“Isn’t the beating heart of this problem, the real beating heart of it, of what we gotta get sorted here, not illegal immigration?” Bannon asked Miller. “As horrific as that is, and it’s horrific, don’t we have a problem? We’ve looked the other way on this legal immigration that’s kinda overwhelmed the country?”

All along, we thought illegal immigration was the problem. Turns out, senior Trump advisors think otherwise. Remember, THIS is what you voted for.
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The right wing is aware that immigrants are simply not going to be their supporters and they fear being outvoted at the ballot box so this comment against ALL IMMIGRATION makes perfect sense coming from the mouth of Trump's personal Rasputin.
 
Winston said:
Get ready for the White Nationalist apologist brigade to step in and marginalize, deflect, and cover up, what we have here.
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what do we have here in your opinion?

my reaction to what I read is that we need to improve the education system in America and produce more homegrown engineers and scientists
 
haymarket said:
The right wing is aware that immigrants are simply not going to be their supporters and they fear being outvoted at the ballot box so this comment against ALL IMMIGRATION makes perfect sense coming from the mouth of Trump's personal Rasputin.
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most immigrants today are fleeing failed societies and nations

is the 3rd world what we want America to be like?

too many immigrants that tip the political balance to the democrats are not in Americas. best interest
 
rocket88 said:
Steve Bannon in 2016: legal immigration is the real ?problem" - Vox

“Isn’t the beating heart of this problem, the real beating heart of it, of what we gotta get sorted here, not illegal immigration?” Bannon asked Miller. “As horrific as that is, and it’s horrific, don’t we have a problem? We’ve looked the other way on this legal immigration that’s kinda overwhelmed the country?”

All along, we thought illegal immigration was the problem. Turns out, senior Trump advisors think otherwise. Remember, THIS is what you voted for.
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Too bad the Dem senators didn't ask him about that. Oh, wait. They were probably tied up at the Dairy Queen. Or did they intentionally not ask him so it could be taken out of context later? Interesting...
 
Re: Steve Bannon in 2016: legal immigration is the real “problem"

trouble13 said:
Nice to know you got your racism accusation preloaded to try and shut down whoever you disagree with.

Im not sure how many people immigrate here each year but i would agree that if we let too many come in too fast its counterproductive to the idea of them melding with the existing culture.

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Remember, lots of leftwingers don't believe in borders (like Hillary), so they're against any kind of immigration control. They don't give a **** how it affects unemployment, as long as the new immigrants vote Democrat as soon as they are indoctrinated and made citizens. They are terrified of anyone that talks about America First, because it's a direct threat to their political agenda. Blacks are hurt the worst by immigration, most are just too ignorant to know it. Immigration is a very very partisan issue, there's not getting around it. Clinton talked a good talk back in the 90's, but today's liberal doesn't even pretend anymore. Just look at the handful of countries that Trump put temporary bans on. The liberals' heads are exploding.
 
JC Callender said:
I have a challenge for you... be the first leftist today to read the article in the O.P..
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I have a challenge for you: check every fact that comes out of the Trump administration. Bannon's reference to this is confused. He first talks about guest workers, suggesting its 61 million, and then confuses that with total immigrants.

"....You saw these guest workers. You saw the CIS report yesterday. You saw that, what is it, 61 million? Isn’t the beating heart of this problem, the real beating heart of it, of what we gotta get sorted here, is not illegal immigration? As horrific as that is, and it’s horrific, don’t we have a problem, we’ve looked the other way on this legal immigration that’s kinda overwhelmed the country? When you look and there’s got 61 million, 20 percent of the country, is immigrants — is that not a massive problem? You were with Jeff Sessions for many, many years. Is that not the beating heart of this problem?...."

Well, I took exception to YOUR post because you said:

JC Callender said:
Bannon appears to be talking about 61 million people here on work visas flooding our job market and how it's not good for the American worker. Did you read something else?
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That stuck me as patently absurd. It was a fact that on surface was nonsensical. You should have seen it as non-sense as well. The CIS report on H1-B workers is actually 65,000. The article I posted suggest the number is actually closer to 650,000. Either way, your post was off by 100-1000 fold. You should have known better.

Estimating the Size of the H-1B Population in the U.S. | Center for Immigration Studies

There are 42 million "immigrants" in this country, most of whom have been invited. Though if we wish to discuss the multi-generational impact of immigration, then there are 300 million "immigrants" in this country. That is NOT guest workers, that is people living and working in the US. If you want to blast the idea of immigration to the US, then you want to blast a essential element in the American fabric, but its a separate discussion.

Immigrants in the United States | Center for Immigration Studies
 
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haymarket said:
The right wing is aware that immigrants are simply not going to be their supporters and they fear being outvoted at the ballot box so this comment against ALL IMMIGRATION makes perfect sense coming from the mouth of Trump's personal Rasputin.
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That's funny since Republicans have the Presidency, the Congress, more governorships and state legislatures than the Democrats.
 
American said:
That's funny since Republicans have the Presidency, the Congress, more governorships and state legislatures than the Democrats.
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I was speaking of demographic projections that show the nation becoming far less white over the next several decades resulting in a majority minority population by 2050 or so.

Gerrymandering explains much about the GOP hold on congressional House districts and state legislatures.
 
upsideguy said:
I have a challenge for you: check every fact that comes out of the Trump administration. Bannon's reference to this is confused. He first talks about guest workers, suggesting its 61 million, and then confuses that with total immigrants.

"....You saw these guest workers. You saw the CIS report yesterday. You saw that, what is it, 61 million? Isn’t the beating heart of this problem, the real beating heart of it, of what we gotta get sorted here, is not illegal immigration? As horrific as that is, and it’s horrific, don’t we have a problem, we’ve looked the other way on this legal immigration that’s kinda overwhelmed the country? When you look and there’s got 61 million, 20 percent of the country, is immigrants — is that not a massive problem? You were with Jeff Sessions for many, many years. Is that not the beating heart of this problem?...."

Well, I took exception to YOUR post because you said:



That stuck me as patently absurd. It was a fact that on surface was nonsensical. You should have seen it as non-sense as well. The CIS report on H1-B workers is actually 65,000. The article I posted suggest the number is actually closer to 650,000. Either way, your post was off by 100-1000 fold. You should have known better.

Estimating the Size of the H-1B Population in the U.S. | Center for Immigration Studies

There are 42 million "immigrants" in this country, most of whom have been invited. Though if we wish to discuss the multi-generational impact of immigration, then there are 300 million "immigrants" in this country. That is NOT guest workers, that is people living and working in the US. If you want to blast the idea of immigration to the US, then you want to blast a essential element in the American fabric, but its a separate discussion.

Immigrants in the United States | Center for Immigration Studies
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The number of immigrants allowed in each year used to be control at around 500,000; but now I think it's 1,000,000. So maybe he's talking about the fact that we're brining in more than the system can handle.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_the_United_States
 
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