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State Department to charge some travelers $10,000 bond to get visas

Slartibartfast said:
In most cases, yes. Minorities tend to have to work harder to prove themselves in the professional environment and are subject to silly stuff like this:

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Care to highlight facts instead of statistics that may coincide with other important elements beside the sound of a name?

I remember this, or a similar story being brought into these forums long ago. That didn't go so well for you then, did it.
 
Lord of Planar said:
Care to highlight facts instead of statistics that may coincide with other important elements beside the sound of a name?
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'facts instead of statistics"...

Aren't you supposed to be an engineer?
 
Slartibartfast said:
'facts instead of statistics"...

Aren't you supposed to be an engineer?
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Sorry. facts are facts. Statistics are not. Statistics are easily manipulated or created. facts, are facts.
 
Lord of Planar said:
I see this as an attempt of reducing illegal overstays. Since the left as a whole has rejected all types of reducing illegal immigration, your words are meaningless to me. If you have a better solution, then present it. Otherwise accept that an attempt is being made.

I don't like this solution, but I understand it.
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A solution? Liberalize immigration law, fund asylum courts fully, allow many more people to come here to work, and punish employers who employ illegal help. "The left" had a bipartisan bill drafted to do this but the idiots not on 'the left' shot it down because they count on suckers to vote for them and champion ideas like this one.

I understand the solution too. Its freaking stupid and will only harm US tourism and business, while not doing a goddamn thing to reduce overstays.
 
Slartibartfast said:
Cool. Cite a counter study.
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The study varied and the differences were small. I don't trust any studies based on activism to start with, and why would there be a counter study?

You have not proven anything that matters. When speaking of entry level jobs, other statistics come into play. Including crime statistics. Now when you get to equal resumes on higher level jobs, maybe there is something to be said.
 
Lord of Planar said:
The study varied and the differences were small. I don't trust any studies based on activism to start with, and why would there be a counter study?

You have not proven anything that matters. When speaking of entry level jobs, other statistics come into play. Including crime statistics. Now when you get to equal resumes on higher level jobs, maybe there is something to be said.
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Ok so you have no valid response then.
 
Slartibartfast said:
Ok so you have no valid response then.
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Wow.

Do you really not comprehend?

Why would anyone make a counter study?

Why make a study like that without looking for the causes?

That wasn't a survey of business to do anything but keep the race-baiting alive. To allow excuses to be valid. I have no doubt the study was crafted for such results anyway. Unless you can show the whole of the study, and link the resumes submitted for comparison, what you offer is just propaganda. Pure and simple.

Studies/surveys like that work well for those who already have their confirmation bias in place.
 
Lord of Planar said:
Wow.

Do you really not comprehend?

Why would anyone make a counter study?

Why make a study like that without looking for the causes?

That wasn't a survey of business to do anything but keep the race-baiting alive. To allow excuses to be valid. I have no doubt the study was crafted for such results anyway. Unless you can show the whole of the study, and link the resumes submitted for comparison, what you offer is just propaganda. Pure and simple.

Studies/surveys like that work well for those who already have their confirmation bias in place.
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Let me know when you can find a counter study.
 
Lord of Planar said:
LOL.

I am very surprised you do not see the problems in what you presented. Let me know when you realize them.
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You wouldn’t be dancing if you had data.
 
Slartibartfast said:
You wouldn’t be dancing if you had data.
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I never claimed to have data. I am dismissing your data as biased. They do not reference they study to see how they do it.

What are they hiding?
 
Lord of Planar said:
I never claimed to have data. I am dismissing your data as biased. They do not reference they study to see how they do it.

What are they hiding?
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Yup. You have no data to disprove the fact that our society still has institutional racism, per the study I showed you.
 
Slartibartfast said:
Yup. You have no data to disprove the fact that our society still has institutional racism, per the study I showed you.
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Your study is worthless without seeing the details.

PERIOD!
 
Lord of Planar said:
It is returned to them when they go home. I don't see a problem. If they have enough to come here and visit, this shouldn't be a problem.

I hope it also applies to H series Visas and that the employer pays that.
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Rather large and probably incorrect assumption on your part.
 
Mycroft said:
Only foreigners who come from areas where a lot of people who over-stay their visas come from.
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Russia and Ireland?

Or did you mean people with brown skin?
 
Slartibartfast said:
Oh, now you are just stamping your feet. Give me some data to show I am wrong.
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LOL. I am amazed you can trust the media this much.

I guess my standards are too much higher. Eat all the propaganda you want. But you should consider verifying before you post.
 
Lord of Planar said:
LOL. I am amazed you can trust the media this much.

I guess my standards are too much higher. Eat all the propaganda you want. But you should consider verifying before you post.
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Ahh, now you are deflecting into the standard maga paranoia about news agencies.
 
Lord of Planar said:
LOL. I am amazed you can trust the media this much.

I guess my standards are too much higher. Eat all the propaganda you want. But you should consider verifying before you post.
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Yeah, why can't he post Alex Jones or Tucker Carlson?
 
Luce said:
Yeah, why can't he post Alex Jones or Tucker Carlson?
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Why should I? I don't trust them either. Projecting is another poor liberal trait.
 
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