Star Citizen (1 Viewer)

[jmotivator]

 

[PoS]

It really isn't. The amount of content available in this vaporware is more than most full release games. Watch the video I posted above of people playing on one small part of one planet... also the same group escaping from prison in another video. The amount of content is amazing.

I decided to go ahead and get a copy after watching hours of content video, and was surprised when the launcher said the install package was 12 GB.. it seems small until it was done installing and started downloading the first content pack that was 75 GB.

What is missing is the story driven single player game, but that isn't really necessary to enjoy the game.

Its definetly not. I can hop on right now, walk around a city, get in my ship, walk around inside it, fly to another planet, land, walk around the land, go into a habitat. And many other things.

Star Citizen is a playable game with tons of active orgs, tournaments, and an incredibly high skill ceiling.

Even if there were no Persistent Universe at all, and they never changed another thing, Arena Commander mode alone is by far the best space combat game ever made.

LOL a bunch of mini alpha builds isnt a game. Only suckers would pay money for that.

 

[jmotivator]

LOL a bunch of mini alpha builds isnt a game. Only suckers would pay money for that.

 

[jonny5]

LOL a bunch of mini alpha builds isnt a game. Only suckers would pay money for that.

It isnt a bunch of mini alpha builds, this is all seamless. You wake up in a apt, walk out your door, walk down to the train, ride the train to the spaceport. walk out the doors to your ship on the pad, open the door to you ship, get in, sit in the seat, start up the ship, lift off, start flying, etc etc.

It is a universe simulation.

 

[AConcernedCitizen]

LOL a bunch of mini alpha builds isnt a game. Only suckers would pay money for that.

It's only alpha in comparison to it's own ambition. It's already fun, playable and more feature-rich than any game ever made. I got my $45 worth just playing the racetrack sim in Arena Commander.

 

[jonny5]

It's only alpha in comparison to it's own ambition. It's already fun, playable and more feature-rich than any game ever made. I got my $45 worth just playing the racetrack sim in Arena Commander.

I pretty much just explore. But there arent enough mechanics or people yet to make it liveable. No real point to anything. Good space sim, not quite a game or world yet.

 

[AConcernedCitizen]

I pretty much just explore. But there arent enough mechanics or people yet to make it liveable. No real point to anything. Good space sim, not quite a game or world yet.

I don't know what you're talking about. In the PU there is bounty hunting, mining, assassination missions, missions to take down comm arrays, bunker security missions, cargo trading, delivery missions, data recovery missions, investigation missions, derelict reclaimer missions, smuggling, and breaking out of prison among other things to do. And that's just in the PU. Star Marine is its own standalone arena shooter, and Arena Commander has a racing game, space duels, Battle Boyale, Pirate Swarm, and Vanduul swarm.

For all that, you could sit in your Mercury Star Runner and play chess on your chessboard with your friends while traveling across the system. Boom. Feature a complete chess game, with the novel addition of a chance of being intercepted by space pirates in the middle of a match. Everything else is icing on the cake.

 

[jonny5]

I don't know what you're talking about. In the PU there is bounty hunting, mining, assassination missions, missions to take down comm arrays, bunker security missions, cargo trading, delivery missions, data recovery missions, investigation missions, derelict reclaimer missions, smuggling, and breaking out of prison among other things to do. And that's just in the PU. Star Marine is its own standalone arena shooter, and Arena Commander has a racing game, space duels, Battle Boyale, Pirate Swarm, and Vanduul swarm.

For all that, you could sit in your Mercury Star Runner and play chess on your chessboard with your friends while traveling across the system. Boom. Feature a complete chess game, with the novel addition of a chance of being intercepted by space pirates in the middle of a match. Everything else is icing on the cake.

Those are just a few things to do. AFAIK, there really isnt any economy, permanence, customization, world building. Compare it to EVE for example.

 

[AConcernedCitizen]

Those are just a few things to do. AFAIK, there really isnt any economy, permanence, customization, world building. Compare it to EVE for example.

But in EVE you can't earn favour from a Jarl in order to get land to build a homestead upon and then furnish it with a library full of books that you can actually read while a bard that you hired sings "Age of Aggression." So by that standard, EVE isn't quite a game yet.

Star Citizen has tons of fun content and active orgs that have huge, tactically rich 100-person first-person space battles with fighters launching from capital ships manned by a dozen players. It doesn't have to have the same content as EVE in order to be a game. People who want EVE's content can play EVE, just like people who want Skyrim's content can play Skyrim.

Star Citizen has unique combined arms space combat and 6DOF racing, in ways that no other game has. That content is already in a playable state, and lots of people regularly have fun playing the game.

 

[jonny5]

But in EVE you can't earn favour from a Jarl in order to get land to build a homestead upon and then furnish it with a library full of books that you can actually read while a bard that you hired sings "Age of Aggression." So by that standard, EVE isn't quite a game yet.

Star Citizen has tons of fun content and active orgs that have huge, tactically rich 100-person first-person space battles with fighters launching from capital ships manned by a dozen players. It doesn't have to have the same content as EVE in order to be a game. People who want EVE's content can play EVE, just like people who want Skyrim's content can play Skyrim.

Star Citizen has unique combined arms space combat and 6DOF racing, in ways that no other game has. That content is already in a playable state, and lots of people regularly have fun playing the game.

Of course, but my point is the details arent there yet. I pop in everyone once in in a while to check, but I dont really have a reason to live there yet.

 

[AConcernedCitizen]

Of course, but my point is the details arent there yet. I pop in everyone once in in a while to check, but I dont really have a reason to live there yet.

Sure. It's not everybody's game yet, but it is a playable game for a lot of people. I've logged over 1000 hours of rich space combat experience out of my $45 dollar purchase, and I have a couple dozen friends who have done the same. So it's hard to imagine how someone could think it "isn't really a game yet" or that it's "vaporware."

 

[jonny5]

Sure. It's not everybody's game yet, but it is a playable game for a lot of people. I've logged over 1000 hours of rich space combat experience out of my $45 dollar purchase, and I have a couple dozen friends who have done the same. So it's hard to imagine how someone could think it "isn't really a game yet" or that it's "vaporware."

I never said it wasnt playable or vaporware. But its clearly not a game yet. Even the devs think so, which is why its still alpha.

 

[jmotivator]

I never said it wasnt playable or vaporware. But its clearly not a game yet. Even the devs think so, which is why its still alpha.

Well, the devs will keep saying it isn't a game yet so that people will keep paying to make it a game. But it's a game.

As I said earlier, it is Sea of Thieves, it just has a lot more to do in it.

 

[PoS]

LOL I can think of a hundred better things to spend $45 on than a glorified demo.

 

[Loulit01]

I've been playing LOTRO for over seven years. For the last two years I've been looking for a new game. Ideally, I'd like to join a new MMO in beta and get in on the ground floor but I haven't found a game that really grabs me yet.

I'm old and my reflexes aren't what they were, so games that are mostly FPS PvP don't appeal to me.

I've seen many good things about Star Citizen on YouTube and I'm considering it. The thing is, when I finally decide on my next MMO, I'm going to pour a lot of time and money into it so I want to be sure.

I have questions:

I play LOTRO with a Razer Naga X gaming mouse but Star Citizen I'd have to play with a KB? I'm not sure that would suit me.

In the videos I've seen people are saying they earn, through mining and missions, millions of credits, but a new patch comes up and they lose their savings. True?

Lastly, I'm not sure my laptop can handle it.

Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-9750H CPU @ 2.60GHz 2.59 GHz

Installed RAM 16.0 GB (15.8 GB usable)

64-bit operating system, x64-based processor

NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX card


What do you think?

 

[jmotivator]

I've been playing LOTRO for over seven years. For the last two years I've been looking for a new game. Ideally, I'd like to join a new MMO in beta and get in on the ground floor but I haven't found a game that really grabs me yet.

I'm old and my reflexes aren't what they were, so games that are mostly FPS PvP don't appeal to me.

I've seen many good things about Star Citizen on YouTube and I'm considering it. The thing is, when I finally decide on my next MMO, I'm going to pour a lot of time and money into it so I want to be sure.

I have questions:

I play LOTRO with a Razer Naga X gaming mouse but Star Citizen I'd have to play with a KB? I'm not sure that would suit me.

In the videos I've seen people are saying they earn, through mining and missions, millions of credits, but a new patch comes up and they lose their savings. True?

Lastly, I'm not sure my laptop can handle it.

Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-9750H CPU @ 2.60GHz 2.59 GHz

Installed RAM 16.0 GB (15.8 GB usable)

64-bit operating system, x64-based processor

NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX card


What do you think?

There is definitely server wipes with major updates, but apparently those will get far less frequent as time goes by. The next major patch after this major update will not wipe your account, but it will wipe some stuff.

For instance, one of the major updates recently added persistent junk in the game, meaning that if you land on a planet somewhere and drop an item on the ground and come back weeks later it will still be there. It's a fairly amazing leap forward in persistent worlds, but they have stated that while the next patch won't wipe your bank account of ships, it will wipe the junk.

I think the junk wipe will be fairly regular since hot spots in the game quickly became buried in crashed space ships.

As for the Hardware requirements, I couldn't really say.. my instinct says that it would struggle.

As for a new MMO to play, I would assume the obvious options like Elder Scrolls, Eve, Star Wars, DC Universe and Secret World have already been considered?

 

[What if...?]

I started playing Star Citizen almost a year ago.

Got tired of Starfield and Elite dangerous is sunsetting.

So I started looking for a new space sim.

Ran across Star Citizen and just had to find out why every review you read says it’s crap but thousands play it all the time.

It summed up by “yeah it’s a mess a lot of the time. But when it works there is nothing like it.”

And that is the truth. I spend most of my time exploring and pushing the limits of the sandbox. Primarily an industrial player. Mine and do salvage for credits. Dabble in fps, dogfighting and racing.

Latest game event is complex and involves more necessary pvp than I’m good at at my age.

But it turned out that I can Trash Panda most of the stuff others fight for by sneaking about in between rounds. So I’ve been doing that.

Anybody playing currently?

We are getting closer to seeing crafting that will make Starfield and ED look pedestrian. Crafting from mining rare resources, processing them in custom refining and crafting everything, including ships and bases. Along with a fully functional player economy where we buy/sell/trade the resources and finished products.

I haven’t enjoyed a game as much in forever. And there’s so much to do that you can do something til you're bored with it and then do other things until it’s fun again.

 

[ModernDiogenes]

I've started watching YouTube videos of people playing Star Citizen, and even with all the glitches, the game is damn impressive.

Every time I watch a new video it seems like a new game. It's probably a bit too involved for me. I don't have the time commitment to get the most out of the game... but it makes for some good videos!

I can't get into RPG's. I am an RTS guy. Civ, stuff like that.

 

[Gordy327]

I started playing Star Citizen almost a year ago.

Got tired of Starfield and Elite dangerous is sunsetting.

So I started looking for a new space sim.

Ran across Star Citizen and just had to find out why every review you read says it’s crap but thousands play it all the time.

It summed up by “yeah it’s a mess a lot of the time. But when it works there is nothing like it.”

And that is the truth. I spend most of my time exploring and pushing the limits of the sandbox. Primarily an industrial player. Mine and do salvage for credits. Dabble in fps, dogfighting and racing.

Latest game event is complex and involves more necessary pvp than I’m good at at my age.

But it turned out that I can Trash Panda most of the stuff others fight for by sneaking about in between rounds. So I’ve been doing that.

Anybody playing currently?

We are getting closer to seeing crafting that will make Starfield and ED look pedestrian. Crafting from mining rare resources, processing them in custom refining and crafting everything, including ships and bases. Along with a fully functional player economy where we buy/sell/trade the resources and finished products.

I haven’t enjoyed a game as much in forever. And there’s so much to do that you can do something til you're bored with it and then do other things until it’s fun again.

I have not played Star Citizen. I did try Elite Dangerous, but got bored of it. Have you ever played Freelancer from 2003? It's the inspiration for Star Citizen and is a good play, even today. The background scenery in the game is gorgeous and still holds up today.

Another game option I recommend is Everspace & Everspace 2, although I only played Everspace 2. Its on the PS5, XBox, and Windows. It has a good main storyline to follow, lots of sidequests, jobs, and also features crafting, trading, many many different ships (each with their own strengths and weaknesses) to buy and customize as well as equipmentfor your ships. Space combat can get frenzied in some situations, but is fun and engaging. Both Everspace games are their own thing and you do not need to play in order.

 

[Gordy327]

I can't get into RPG's. I am an RTS guy. Civ, stuff like that.

I like both RPG & RTS. The Civ series is awesome.

 

[ModernDiogenes]

I like both RPG & RTS. The Civ series is awesome.

I come out of the Avolan Hill military strategy board games as a kid so transition to AoE, C&C Generals and Civ was sort of a natural thing. [Yeah. I was a nerd when I was a kid]

 

[Gordy327]

I come out of the Avolan Hill military strategy board games as a kid so transition to AoE and Civ was sort of a natural thing. [Yeah. I was a nerd when I was a kid]

I was a nerd as a kid and if anything, I'm a bigger need now. I make no apologies for it either
I played a couple military strategy board games as a kid. And I played AoE too back when it first came out. Also played Stronghold & Command & Conquer, also classics. Civ is probably the greatest strategy game of all time, imo.

 

[What if...?]

I have not played Star Citizen. I did try Elite Dangerous, but got bored of it. Have you ever played Freelancer from 2003? It's the inspiration for Star Citizen and is a good play, even today. The background scenery in the game is gorgeous and still holds up today.

Another game option I recommend is Everspace & Everspace 2, although I only played Everspace 2. Its on the PS5, XBox, and Windows. It has a good main storyline to follow, lots of sidequests, jobs, and also features crafting, trading, many many different ships (each with their own strengths and weaknesses) to buy and customize as well as equipmentfor your ships. Space combat can get frenzied in some situations, but is fun and engaging. Both Everspace games are their own thing and you do not need to play in order.

You just missed a “free fly” event. Anybody can try the game for free. Try out a few ships. Check out some game loops. They do these every couple of months. It’s a good way to get your feet wet without coming out of pocket. Servers get crowded. More murder hobos. But they’re easy enough to stay away from.

I strongly recommend checking it out as it’s gotten much better in the year I’ve played overall. It’s a “playable alpha” so the kinda nerf stuff they don’t need testing of and buff things that do so people will do those things.

It can be overwhelmingly beautiful. My “home” is a floating city over a gas giant. Went there to do some stuff and came up into the opening at sunset and was stopped in my tracks at the beauty, majesty of it. And as the clouds are constantly generating sunset is different every day. Grass blows in wind like it’s being blown by actual wind. It’s kinda amazing.

 

[ModernDiogenes]

I was a nerd as a kid and if anything, I'm a bigger need now. I make no apologies for it either
I played a couple military strategy board games as a kid. And I played AoE too back when it first came out. Also played Stronghold & Command & Conquer, also classics. Civ is probably the greatest strategy game of all time, imo.

NOICE! Me too.

Agreed. I started with 2 and play V and VI now. I am waiting for the soon to be released VII. I play it on Mac currently, though started on x86 units I assembled myself running DOS and later Windows. I didn't like Steam. Though I think I am going to try it again soon. See if the platform has matured.

 

[Gordy327]

NOICE! Me too.

Agreed. I started with 2 and play V and VI now. I am waiting for the soon to be released VII. I play it on Mac currently, though started on x86 units I assembled myself running DOS and later Windows. I didn't like Steam. Though I think I am going to try it again soon. See if the platform has matured.

I played the original Civ. What an addictive game it was. I lost track of the hundreds of hours I must have spent playing it. I played all night sometimes, completely unaware of how much time passed. Once I discovered the Hex code for the game, I could easily get through the hardest difficulty.
I find steam to be good. It is easier to simply download off of steam. But I do miss the days of Electronics Boutique and buying physical copies of PC games.