No they do not. You can choose to marry they person that you are attracted to. They cannot.
Yup. Now you're getting it.
Do you think being straight gives you specific rights?
You walk into it EVERY time, mac. EVERY time.
I can marry my female friend so I can put her on my medical benefits, right now. Allowing SSM changes nothing of the sort. It can happen, currently.
But any other group can marry someone of the opposite gender. I could marry an illegal immigrant so she can become legal.
Religious polygamous marriage is perfectly legal, while legal polygamous marriage isn't. Big difference, again thank you for admitting that religious marriage is separate from legal marriage.
Now can we get past this, and discuss what is pertinent?
Again, you are operating under the assumption that ssm is the same thing as osm...it is not. The definition of marriage is between a man and a woman, and every man and every woman has equal access to it.
The definition of marriage has changed repeatedly over the last few milennia. No reason why it couldn't be changed to accept homosexual couples. In fact, it's really only a matter of time before it does.
In 1945 Alabama, every black and white person had equal access to education. However, blacks could only attend certain schools and whites could only attend certain schools. Each race had a right that the other didn't. Racial discrimination.Again, you are operating under the assumption that ssm is the same thing as osm...it is not. The definition of marriage is between a man and a woman, and every man and every woman has equal access to it.
True, but as of right now...it is what it is.
In 1945 Alabama, every black and white person had equal access to education. However, blacks could only attend certain schools and whites could only attend certain schools. Each race had a right that the other didn't. Racial discrimination.
Now, every man and woman has equal access to marriage. However, men can only enter the contract with women and women can only enter the contract with men. Each gender has a right that the other doesn't. Gender discrimination.
When one gender can enter into a contract that another gender cannot, that's called discrimination.
In your opinion, Mac...
Why is it "is what it is"? What could be the root reason for "it is what it is"?
The most reducible answer that I've seen thus far might be inferred simply as: "because".
What form of power and/or control by 3 percent of the population have over the 97 percent that can and/or will cause the majority to want to succumb to a lesser moral standard (defining standards claimed by many non gays)?
By the sheer act of allowing gay marriage, how will the moral fabric of non gay members of society be effected?
In my opinion, human nature. It's an innate aversion to homosexuality that causes opposition to it.
Perhaps, but it has been "because" for the majority of human history. Opposition to homosexuality is as ingrained as is the existence of it.
None, other than perceptually.
Many beleive that in the last 50 to 100 years, modern societies have eroded the intitution of marriage, and many see allowing SSM as going further down the rabbit hole to the point that it will eventually become inconseguential or disappear altogether.
I beleive what you'll find is that since all are restricted and allowed equally....there is no discrimination. Legally. Otherwise, such marriage bans would have been shot down long ago.
Blacks and whites were restricted and allowed equally as well. They were both allowed to attend school and both were restricted based on race. It was still discrimination. :shrug:I beleive what you'll find is that since all are restricted and allowed equally....there is no discrimination. Legally. Otherwise, such marriage bans would have been shot down long ago.
Sorry, missed the question. I support human rights....I don't think that being gay gives you specific rights.
In my opinion, human nature. It's an innate aversion to homosexuality that causes opposition to it.
Perhaps, but it has been "because" for the majority of human history. Opposition to homosexuality is as ingrained as is the existence of it.
None, other than perceptually.
Many beleive that in the last 50 to 100 years, modern societies have eroded the intitution of marriage, and many see allowing SSM as going further down the rabbit hole to the point that it will eventually become inconseguential or disappear altogether.
Of course I do....no other group is allowed to marry someone of the same gender. Equality is a two way street.
Within the definition of marriage, they do have the same rights I do.
I'm not. You are ignoring that marriage between a man and woman is the traditionally accepted and legal form of marriage. Gays are asking for that to be changed, straights are not.
I'm not. You are ignoring that marriage between a man and woman is the traditionally accepted and legal form of marriage. Gays are asking for that to be changed, straights are not.
I believe it's socialization and social conditioning that produces an innate aversion to homosexuality. Don't think people are born thinking gay sex is nasty.
As for things that I believe are ACTUALLY eroding the institution of marriage, you could start with divorce rates, and dumb **** like the bachelor, the bachelorette, and who wants to marry a millionaire
Blacks and whites were restricted and allowed equally as well. They were both allowed to attend school and both were restricted based on race. It was still discrimination. :shrug:
Then you should support equal rights for all humans...
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