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Special counsel cites threatening Trump post in request for protective order in election case

trixare4kids said:
I don't know. I'm not saying the judge won't. I don't know for sure. Nobody does. Just giving you a pov from a conservative judge.
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Fair enough. We'll see.

Apparently Smith isn't asking for anything unusual, nor anything that hasn't been already levied against Trump in his other cases. So I think your judge may be judging wrongly, here.
 
Overitall said:
I'm not speaking on behalf of any democrats. I'm not decided yet, but I can visualize voting for him over someone like Trump.
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Oh come-on, would you seriously consider a Dem? Or, Dem running as an Indie?

I may have pegged you wrongly . . .
 
there are really good lawyers in the country. some famous ones were on OJ's Dream Team.


then there are the horrible lawyers that trump hires (because the good ones won't touch him)...


 
eohrnberger said:
It's quite appropriate to call 'their side' a cult. All the attributes they claim as being 'cultish' are the same attributes they themselves are are demonstrating.
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Us laymen refer to it as TDS.

They prove their symptoms daily.

That’s how we know they are the cult, of projection.
 
trixare4kids said:
My husband has a good friend who is a judge, and he thinks it's just more pile-on crap to sling at Trump. It doesn't really matter if it sticks or not. What matters is to create another outrage in order to keep the focus on presidential candidate Trump and off of President Biden's troubles/impeachment inquiry/ongoing House probe.
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No serious judge will make comments about a case without letting first the process play out and see all the evidence that will be presented in court.
 
eohrnberger said:
It's quite appropriate to call 'their side' a cult. All the attributes they claim as being 'cultish' are the same attributes they themselves are are demonstrating.
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They do have a knack for projection. If they are accusing Republicans of something, you can bet a paycheck that they are guilty of whatever they throw at Republicans.
 
Chomsky said:
Oh come-on, would you seriously consider a Dem? Or, Dem running as an Indie?

I may have pegged you wrongly . . .
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Yes, I wouldn't say it if the thought wasn't floating around in my head. I'm not a loyalist to a Party. If RJK runs against Trump I may cast my vote for RJK.
 
and just for the record, when trump/his dumbass lawyers say they want a more diverse jury here's what they mean...


West Virginia:
  • 92% White
  • 3% Black

DC:
  • ~ 37% White
  • ~ 40% Black


(By “diverse,” he means white.)
 
ttwtt78640 said:
See post #17. It seems to fit your idea of publicly making a direct personal threat, adding some equivocating words later and even (eventually) apologizing. Of course, it was said to be simply coincidence that a later (failed) assassination attempt on Kavanaugh resulted in an arrest.
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Schumer is speaking about voting there, and he makes clear ("You will be gone in November").

There's no comparison to Trump's criminal case.
 
Chomsky said:
Schumer is speaking about voting there, and he makes clear ("You will be gone in November").
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Is this Schumer's speech on the supreme court steps where he called out Kavanaugh and Gorsuch specifically as 'inheriting the whirlwind'?
If so, then it couldn't have been about votes, now, could it?

Chomsky said:
There's no comparison to Trump's criminal case.
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Mycroft said:
The Trump haters love to take Trump's words and distort the meaning into something he wasn't saying.
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So what WAS he saying?
 
trixare4kids said:
My husband has a good friend who is a judge, and he thinks it's just more pile-on crap to sling at Trump. It doesn't really matter if it sticks or not. What matters is to create another outrage in order to keep the focus on presidential candidate Trump and off of President Biden's troubles/impeachment inquiry/ongoing House probe.
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Yeah the fact that this judge friend of your husband is automatically invoking politics discredits him, IMO. Special Counsel Smith has perfectly legitimate and legally valid reasons for wanting to protect the witnesses in this case from harassment.
 
multivita-man said:
Yeah the fact that this judge friend of your husband is automatically invoking politics discredits him, IMO. Special Counsel Smith has perfectly legitimate and legally valid reasons for wanting to protect the witnesses in this case from harassment.
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If her husband's friend judge arrives at conclusions based on what it is said in the public forum before even waiting for the conclusion of a trial, he is unfit to serve as a judge.
 
pamak said:
If her husband's friend judge arrives at conclusions based on what it is said in the public forum before even waiting for the conclusion of a trial, he is unfit to serve as a judge.
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I mean, judges are people and have their politics, too, I guess, but I would dismiss anything he says about this case out of hand.
 
trixare4kids said:
The Democrats are no longer the same party they once were either. It is now the party of far left progressivism. This should be no surprise to anyone that the face of the GOP is no longer promoting the neo-conservative industrial war complex, do business as usual DC good old boys club, and everyone else before Americans' needs.
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Hm. There's a lot to think about here, and some good points in GOP moving away from Neo-Conservatism. You do have that right, even though they've picked-up other poor habits from Trump like authoritarianism and cultural warring.


trixare4kids said:
Time will tell if Trump is found to be a criminal. If Trump wasn't running for president and in a strong position to win, none of the indictments would have happened. I, too, might be fooling myself, though.
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I strongly disagree with the bolded. Do you think any Joe Schmoe citizen could do what Trump did with the Mar-a-lago documents, and not be behind bars?
 
MTAtech said:
Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one.

The judge mentioned is parroting Fox talking points. One the contrary, the House Investigations of Biden, which so far have released nothing damning, are a distraction away from Trump’s legal woes.
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MTAtech said:
Bidenomics is doing great and the economy is strong. There is little for the GOP to complain about, so they investigate.
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Yeah, I'm lost at these economy complaints.

I don't see it in the numbers, nor in my life, nor anecdotally from others I know IRL. It's a mystery to me.
 
BabaVoss said:
So what WAS he saying?
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I'll let Trump's campaign answer your question:

“The Truth post cited is the definition of political speech, and was in response to the RINO, China-loving, dishonest special interest groups and Super PACs, like the ones funded by the Koch brothers and the Club for No Growth,” a campaign spokesperson said overnight Saturday.​
 
multivita-man said:
I mean, judges are people and have their politics, too, I guess, but I would dismiss anything he says about this case out of hand.
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and political biases too which is why you are right to dismiss out of hand whatever such person says before the trial.
 
Overitall said:
Someone pointed out the "purpose" of the PO which is not the same as citing the "reason" for the PO. We are speaking past each other, perhaps.
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Nope, you're still wrong. This PO would have been filed regardless.
 
trixare4kids said:
Hard to get American justice using banana republic type tactics.
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“IF YOU GO AFTER ME, I’M COMING AFTER YOU!” Trump threatened on Truth Social on Friday.
On the same day and platform, he accused “the corrupt Biden DOJ” of election interference. Exquisite projection. In Trump’s warped view, it’s always the other guy who’s doing what Trump is actually doing.

Likewise, Trump tried to use the Insurrection Act to bring out the military to suppress protesters, just like they do in banana republic countries.
 
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