Sotomayor, et al: Assault weapons are "commonly available semi-automatic rifles". (1 Viewer)

[Mungo Jerry]

Their dissent in Cargill:

JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR,
with whom JUSTICE KAGAN and JUSTICE JACKSON join, dissenting.

On October 1, 2017, a shooter opened fire from a hotel
room overlooking an outdoor concert in Las Vegas, Nevada,
in what would become the deadliest mass shooting in U. S.
history. Within a matter of minutes, using several hundred
rounds of ammunition, the shooter killed 58 people and
wounded over 500. He did so by affixing bump stocks to
commonly available, semiautomatic rifles. These simple
devices harness a rifle’s recoil energy to slide the rifle back
and forth and repeatedly “bump” the shooter’s stationary
trigger finger, creating rapid fire. All the shooter had to do
was pull the trigger and press the gun forward. The bump
stock did the rest.

According to the liberal minority on the court - AR15s are "commonly available"
If AR15s are "commonly available", they are plainly "in common use."
If AR15s are "commonly available" they are plainly not "dangerous and unusual"

As the various state 'assault weapon' bans their way to the USSC, the pro-gun plaintiff / defendants can add Sotomayro, Kagan and Jackson's dissent to their arguments against said bans.

Thank God for DEI hires!

 

[Phys251]

Their dissent in Cargill:

JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR,
with whom JUSTICE KAGAN and JUSTICE JACKSON join, dissenting.

On October 1, 2017, a shooter opened fire from a hotel
room overlooking an outdoor concert in Las Vegas, Nevada,
in what would become the deadliest mass shooting in U. S.
history. Within a matter of minutes, using several hundred
rounds of ammunition, the shooter killed 58 people and
wounded over 500. He did so by affixing bump stocks to
commonly available, semiautomatic rifles. These simple
devices harness a rifle’s recoil energy to slide the rifle back
and forth and repeatedly “bump” the shooter’s stationary
trigger finger, creating rapid fire. All the shooter had to do
was pull the trigger and press the gun forward. The bump
stock did the rest.

According to the liberal minority on the court - AR15s are "commonly available"
If AR15s are "commonly available", they are plainly "in common use."
If AR15s are "commonly available" they are plainly not "dangerous and unusual"

As the various state 'assault weapon' bans their way to the USSC, the pro-gun plaintiff / defendants can add Sotomayro, Kagan and Jackson's dissent to their arguments against said bans.

Thank God for DEI hires!

Why are you playing the race card when this was just a dissenting opinion?

 

[Bok Tuklo]

Why are you playing the race card when this was just a dissenting opinion?

I think he was talking about the diversity hire, Justice Barrett.

 

[Mungo Jerry]

Why are you playing the race card when this was just a dissenting opinion?

Avoid the issue much?

 

[Phys251]

Avoid the issue much?

I asked you first why you are playing the race card.

 

[Mungo Jerry]

I asked you first why you are playing the race card.

Your avoidance of the issue, noted.
Back into the pit.

 

[reflechissez]

I think he was talking about the diversity hire, Justice Barrett.

That was my thought as well.

 

[Phys251]

Your avoidance of the issue, noted.
Back into the pit.

Projection. You have dodged my question twice now.

 

[Lycanthrope]

Why are you playing the race card when this was just a dissenting opinion?

Clearly wanted to derail his own thread.

 

[SkyChief]

Sotomayor, et al: Assault weapons are "commonly available semi-automatic rifles"

Sotomayor, et al: Their profoundly Flawed positions on some issues are typically based on misinformation or plain ignorance . . . sometimes both.

Assault wepaons must have certain physical features and capabilities that the average semi-auto rifle does not have.

Sotomayor should have been briefed on this, and she would be better equipped to make a sensible judgement.

 

[Diving Mullah]

Their dissent in Cargill:

JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR,
with whom JUSTICE KAGAN and JUSTICE JACKSON join, dissenting.

On October 1, 2017, a shooter opened fire from a hotel
room overlooking an outdoor concert in Las Vegas, Nevada,
in what would become the deadliest mass shooting in U. S.
history. Within a matter of minutes, using several hundred
rounds of ammunition, the shooter killed 58 people and
wounded over 500. He did so by affixing bump stocks to
commonly available, semiautomatic rifles. These simple
devices harness a rifle’s recoil energy to slide the rifle back
and forth and repeatedly “bump” the shooter’s stationary
trigger finger, creating rapid fire. All the shooter had to do
was pull the trigger and press the gun forward. The bump
stock did the rest.

According to the liberal minority on the court - AR15s are "commonly available"
If AR15s are "commonly available", they are plainly "in common use."
If AR15s are "commonly available" they are plainly not "dangerous and unusual"

As the various state 'assault weapon' bans their way to the USSC, the pro-gun plaintiff / defendants can add Sotomayro, Kagan and Jackson's dissent to their arguments against said bans.

Thank God for DEI hires!

I like this ruling...Next, I really like to take my Ar15 Rifles into the halls of Congress and in the supreme court halls to show my appreciation for the Constitution. Praying to the lord that one day good citizens with guns can freely walk in our great halls of democracy and celebrate their constitutional right!

Diving Mullah

 

[Integrityrespec]

Darn guns running around firing themselves. In the mean time illegal immigrants used other weapons to rape and murder U.S. citizens. I haven't heard the left crying over those deaths.

 

[Mungo Jerry]

Assault wepaons must have certain physical features and capabilities that the average semi-auto rifle does not have.

While that is true, in this case, the rifle in question is an AR15.

 

[dmpi]

'Commonly available' depends on where you're at. 9 states and WA DC have a assault weapon ban.

 

[Mungo Jerry]

'Commonly available' depends on where you're at. 9 states and WA DC have a assault weapon ban.

Their declaration supports the argument that those bans violate the constitution.

 

[SkyChief]

While that is true, in this case, the rifle in question is an AR15.

Right, but the AR15 doesn't have the necessary furniture to be classified as an assault weapon. The Military version of the AR15 (M4 A1 carbine) definitely IS an Assault Weapon.

The M4 A1 ticks all the "assault weapon" boxes. Although these weapons appear to be identical, they are not. They have very different purposes and functionality.

One would think that the Justices on the Supreme Court should be able to make the distinction between an average semi-auto rifle and an actual assault weapon. Alas, they cannot.

 

[Metric Mouse]

So it doesn't turn a rifle into a machine gun?

Interesting argument.

 

[jpevans]

Why are you playing the race card when this was just a dissenting opinion?

Because some whitey tighty asshole with thousands of dollars worth of firep[ower shot up a field full of country music buffs using bump stocks, because Bump sticks ad a new element of pure "*fun" to the mass murder of human beings. Sorry, can't really answer your question, OP has that answer, maybe.
* as the OP said elsewhere.

 

[Metric Mouse]

'Commonly available' depends on where you're at. 9 states and WA DC have a assault weapon ban.

But I bet police officers still have them...

 

[jpevans]

I like this ruling...Next, I really like to take my Ar15 Rifles into the halls of Congress and in the supreme court halls to show my appreciation for the Constitution. Praying to the lord that one day good citizens with guns can freely walk in our great halls of democracy and celebrate their constitutional right!

Diving Mullah

Y'all have been celebrating your 2nd Amendment rights from a tower at UT Austin, to Columbine, Walmart, synagogues, Black churches, movie theaters, Sandy Hook, etc. etc. terrorizing whole generations of people who know there are no safe places anymore. Sick Motherfers can cast their ratatat tat anywhere for no reason but fun, Many prob'ly just want to die & "take out" as many as they can on the way out. Some for hate of a certain group, some just generic hate.

 

[Mungo Jerry]

Right, but the AR15 doesn't have the necessary furniture to be classified as an assault weapon.

The AR15 is THE 'assault weapon'. Its the ONE weapon they would ban if they could.

 

[Mungo Jerry]

So it doesn't turn a rifle into a machine gun?
Interesting argument.

Factual, too.

 

[Mungo Jerry]

Y'all have been celebrating your 2nd Amendment rights....

Everyone knows the 2nd amendment does not protect the right to commit murder, etc.
Why don't you?

 

[Diving Mullah]

Y'all have been celebrating your 2nd Amendment rights from a tower at UT Austin, to Columbine, Walmart, synagogues, Black churches, movie theaters, Sandy Hook, etc. etc. terrorizing whole generations of people who know there are no safe places anymore. Sick Motherfers can cast their ratatat tat anywhere for no reason but fun, Many prob'ly just want to die & "take out" as many as they can on the way out. Some for hate of a certain group, some just generic hate.

This is a bit Dark....but I hope you realize my Ironic tone...

Fun fact: The 2nd Amendment was never a big thing until the 1960s when the Black Panthers, in response to extreme police brutality and the of course the civil right movements (not much has changed), started carrying rifles. What broke the proverbial camel’s back was when a group of Black Panthers walked into the California Senate house with rifles. Nothing is scarier to a white man than a motivated, educated black man with a rifle. So, of course, none other than Ronald Reagan himself (the governor of California) started legislating for and pushing for gun control laws. Back then, the NRA was just a hunting magazine, and for some reason or another (I forgot the historical reason), they picked up the mantle and here we are today.

My point is, if we really want adequate gun control laws on Federal level , a quick and yet satirical way would be to let anyone carry guns into the Supreme Court and Congress, Things progress forward when you scare the white people into action. because as the argument goes:

1. More guns mean more safety. So, 100% of people having guns means 100% safety (I am sure 100% of Republicans would agree with that!!!). You don’t have a gun and yet you want to enter Congress? No problem, we give you a gun.
2. Where else can you truly appreciate the power of the Constitution and your constitutional right than the hallowed halls of Congress?
3. Just tell them this is more orderly version of Jan6, because clearly our self-lobotomized GOP representatives, remember those moments well and are OK with it.

Not to mention our dear Supreme Court who actually considering giving charged and convicting perpetrators of domestic abuse guns! Because apparently they have collective decided it is OK to give wife beater guns but for some reason drug abusers should not carry weapons!

I just want one president to have the balls to issue that order!

Diving Mullah

 

[jpevans]

This is a bit Dark....but I hope you realize my Ironic tone...

Fun fact: The 2nd Amendment was never a big thing until the 1960s when the Black Panthers, in response to extreme police brutality and the of course the civil right movements (not much has changed), started carrying rifles. What broke the proverbial camel’s back was when a group of Black Panthers walked into the California Senate house with rifles. Nothing is scarier to a white man than a motivated, educated black man with a rifle. So, of course, none other than Ronald Reagan himself (the governor of California) started legislating for and pushing for gun control laws. Back then, the NRA was just a hunting magazine, and for some reason or another (I forgot the historical reason), they picked up the mantle and here we are today.

My point is, if we really want adequate gun control laws on Federal level , a quick and yet satirical way would be to let anyone carry guns into the Supreme Court and Congress, Things progress forward when you scare the white people into action. because as the argument goes:

1. More guns mean more safety. So, 100% of people having guns means 100% safety (I am sure 100% of Republicans would agree with that!!!). You don’t have a gun and yet you want to enter Congress? No problem, we give you a gun.
2. Where else can you truly appreciate the power of the Constitution and your constitutional right than the hallowed halls of Congress?
3. Just tell them this is more orderly version of Jan6, because clearly our self-lobotomized GOP representatives, remember those moments well and are OK with it.

Not to mention our dear Supreme Court who actually considering giving charged and convicting perpetrators of domestic abuse guns! Because apparently they have collective decided it is OK to give wife beater guns but for some reason drug abusers should not carry weapons!

I just want one president to have the balls to issue that order!

Diving Mullah

I remember it well.