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Hospital reports little Timmy is born with Fetal Alcohol Syndrome. Cops launch an investigation, woman is arrrested. Other women hear about that and say, "I'd better not do that." Problem solved.
Or abort the baby, other mother's hear about her responsible decision and millions of kids are not born into poverty and abuse. Bigger problem solved!!
Going back to Connor Peterson, Scott got a MUCH harsher sentence because he killed a baby (even though he probably didn't). If he just offed his old lady, he'd probably be out by now.
(Please note, I consider the conviction of Scott Peterson on no forensic, eyewitness, or documentary evidence, to be a travesty. The jury operated on pure emotion.)
Or abort the baby, other mother's hear about her responsible decision and millions of kids are not born into poverty and abuse. Bigger problem solved!!
Going back to Connor Peterson, Scott got a MUCH harsher sentence because he killed a baby (even though he probably didn't). If he just offed his old lady, he'd probably be out by now.
(Please note, I consider the conviction of Scott Peterson on no forensic, eyewitness, or documentary evidence, to be a travesty. The jury operated on pure emotion.)
Scott was charged and convicted under California's fetal homicide law, which allows for prosecution of the death of an unborn child when a pregnant woman is killed.
You prefer Child Abuse. I understand... we all understand. You would rather see a born baby, a child, a toddler and kid abused by unfit parents and subject to gangs and drugs and no real future than to be aborted when they were just a blobular amount of fetus nothingness. You must feel great about yourself.
Going back to Connor Peterson, Scott got a MUCH harsher sentence because he killed a baby (even though he probably didn't). If he just offed his old lady, he'd probably be out by now.
Scott was charged and convicted under California's fetal homicide law, which allows for prosecution of the death of an unborn child when a pregnant woman is killed.
You prefer Child Abuse. I understand... we all understand. You would rather see a born baby, a child, a toddler and kid abused by unfit parents and subject to gangs and drugs and no real future than to be aborted when they were just a blobular amount of fetus nothingness. You must feel great about yourself.
Really? Refresh my memory, when was the last time someone got the death penalty for destroying an endangered species.
Scott Peterson got the DP for killing a fetus. He's still serving a life sentence, at least until the courts finally admit what a travesty his first trial was.
The federal Unborn Victims of Violence Act of 2004 recognizes a "child in utero" as a legal victim, if they are injured or killed during the commission of any of over 60 listed federal crimes of violence.
There's a correct procedure for attaining a legal abortion. Failure to follow such procedures (such as having one performed by a licensed abortion provider.) is subject to prosecution.
Once again, if the unborn were de facto persons, defined and recognized as such by the constitution, such protections, specific to the fetus, would be entirely redundant.
As you're effectively demonstrating it..... they're not.
Really? Refresh my memory, when was the last time someone got the death penalty for destroying an endangered species.
Scott Peterson got the DP for killing a fetus. He's still serving a life sentence, at least until the courts finally admit what a travesty his first trial was.
How does that dispute my post? If society and family value the unborn more than an endangered species, then there might be a higher penalty. Did you not understand that?
And his first degree murder charge for killing her earned him the death penalty, not the separate charge for the fetus. And as you know, the death penalty was overturned.
There is no "might" to it. Foster children face and uncertain and often tragic future. There are studies outlining what happens and the % of children effected.
The present study represents the first large-scale, prospective comparison to test whether aging out of foster care contributes to homelessness risk in emerging adulthood. A nationally representative sample of adolescents investigated by the child ...
More than 23,000 youth exit foster care (known as aging out) and are left to fend for themselves each year. Find resources on the impacts of aging out on…
www.aecf.org
What these studies show about the future of foster children
20% become instantly homeless when they are 18.
Only 50% find employment by age 24.
60% of young women who age out end up in the sex industry.
70% of young women are pregnant by 21.
25% of youth who age out are dealing with PTSD
25% will be incarcerated within 2 years of aging out. (for children that have lived in 5 different foster homes that % is 90% will end up in jail withing 2 years of aging out of care)
Systems are not in place to effectively care for foster youth while they are in the system, nor to put them in a position for successful independence when they leave the system. Aging out should not be an option for foster youth who have not been prepared to care for and support themselves. The...
Women who are denied abortions face diminished opportunities to achieve other life goals, gain secure financial footing, and have a child or children she can support and cherish.
A groundbreaking UCSF study reveals the long-term adverse effects of unwanted pregnancy on people’s lives, pointing to widespread challenges that will result from the US Supreme Court ruling to overturn the constitutional right to an abortion.
Evidence indicates that there are potential health, development, and maternal bonding consequences for children born from unwanted pregnancies. To examine the association of women receiving or being denied a wanted abortion with their children’s ...
It's deeply illogical that pro-life advocates create more child abuse, more foster care children, more families living in poverty, more unstable families, more homelessness, incarceration, more addiction and call it the responsible protection of life at the same time they are calling the women irresponsible who abort to prevent those tragic results from happening.
How does that dispute my post? If society and family value the unborn more than an endangered species, then there might be a higher penalty. Did you not understand that?
And his first degree murder charge for killing her earned him the death penalty, not the separate charge for the fetus. And as you know, the death penalty was overturned.
There is no "might" to it. Foster children face and uncertain and often tragic future. There are studies outlining what happens and the % of children effected.
The anti-abortion advocates have already taken care of the euthanizing. They have reduced life expectancy of the people harmed by unplanned children in already struggling families and foster children.
The Homeless have a average life expectancy of 48years.
How Long Does the Average Homeless Person Live? As a Pilot, I often have the chance to witness the world from above and gain a unique perspective on the issues that plague our society. One such issue that has deeply impacted me is homelessness. For many of us who are fortunate enough to have...
www.ncesc.com
Each year in prison takes 2 years off an individual's life expectancy.
Each year in prison takes 2 years off an individual's life expectancy. With over 2.3 million people locked up, mass incarceration has shortened the overall ...
www.prisonpolicy.org
Poor Americans had 10.5 years lower life expectancy at age 18 than those with incomes at or above 400% of the poverty threshold.
Socioeconomic disparities in life expectancy in the United States (US) are marked and have widened over time. However, there is limited research using individual-level socioeconomic variables as such information is generally lacking or unreliable in ...
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
An abusive childhood reduces life expectancy by 20 years among adults who experienced six or more particular types of abuse or household dysfunction as kids, while those who suffered fewer types of trauma lost fewer years of life, a large-scale epidemiological study finds.
How does habitual drug use affect the life expectancy of users? Explore results gleaned from the Addiction Calculator (from Omni Calculators).
americanaddictioncenters.org
Save the fetus, kill it off when it is a tragic adult and problem for society. That makes a hell of a pro-life banner to carry to marches and protests.
Don't. Animals have protections but it doesn't mean we recognize them as legal persons. And even the Unborn Victims of Violence Act explicitly states it doesn't affect abortion law or personhood status under Roe.
Going back to Connor Peterson, Scott got a MUCH harsher sentence because he killed a baby (even though he probably didn't). If he just offed his old lady, he'd probably be out by now.
The harsher sentence comes from the double homicide statute, which again doesn't inherently mean the law considers the fetus a person legally. It's called consequences.
(Please note, I consider the conviction of Scott Peterson on no forensic, eyewitness, or documentary evidence, to be a travesty. The jury operated on pure emotion.)
So you agree that people and even courts get swept up emotionally, but you use that same case as evidence of personhood. Emotional responses ≠ coherent legal or moral criteria for personhood.
That doesnt dispute what I wrote...this is the 2nd time I had to explain that to you. It's based on the crime, and the value society places on it. You are very triggered and not really absorbing anything...very emotional.
That's BS and it doesnt matter...they cant recommend a sentence that isnt available for the charge. Death penalty was only available for 1st degree murder...and that was for Lacey. The other charge was lesser and didnt have the death penalty.
You are spinning like a top here. And still completely failing to make any point except one based on your feelings.
Well you are free to make that recommendation to your legislators. Seems very hypocritical but I'm not too concerned you'll get far It more or less is an admission of defeat on your part.
There is no "might" to it. Foster children face and uncertain and often tragic future. There are studies outlining what happens and the % of children effected.
The present study represents the first large-scale, prospective comparison to test whether aging out of foster care contributes to homelessness risk in emerging adulthood. A nationally representative sample of adolescents investigated by the child ...
More than 23,000 youth exit foster care (known as aging out) and are left to fend for themselves each year. Find resources on the impacts of aging out on…
www.aecf.org
What these studies show about the future of foster children
20% become instantly homeless when they are 18.
Only 50% find employment by age 24.
60% of young women who age out end up in the sex industry.
70% of young women are pregnant by 21.
25% of youth who age out are dealing with PTSD
25% will be incarcerated within 2 years of aging out. (for children that have lived in 5 different foster homes that % is 90% will end up in jail withing 2 years of aging out of care)
Systems are not in place to effectively care for foster youth while they are in the system, nor to put them in a position for successful independence when they leave the system. Aging out should not be an option for foster youth who have not been prepared to care for and support themselves. The...
Women who are denied abortions face diminished opportunities to achieve other life goals, gain secure financial footing, and have a child or children she can support and cherish.
A groundbreaking UCSF study reveals the long-term adverse effects of unwanted pregnancy on people’s lives, pointing to widespread challenges that will result from the US Supreme Court ruling to overturn the constitutional right to an abortion.
Evidence indicates that there are potential health, development, and maternal bonding consequences for children born from unwanted pregnancies. To examine the association of women receiving or being denied a wanted abortion with their children’s ...
It's deeply illogical that pro-life advocates create more child abuse, more foster care children, more families living in poverty, more unstable families, more homelessness, incarceration, more addiction and call it the responsible protection of life at the same time they are calling the women irresponsible who abort to prevent those tragic results from happening.
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