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[Trump]

Pelosi has kept more classified information items under wraps than DonDon has had Big Mac lunches. She sat House Intel as the Ranking Member meaning she is Gang of 8 status. Actually since there was so much frigged up in DonDon's press conference this morning I did not even mention YET that he simply gave waaaaayyyyyy to much detail about the Op itself than was appropriate.

DonDon could have had his moment of whining crying Baghdadi without going into details about the Op itself. But of course King Oblivious never knows what he actually doing. Just so long as he thinks he is making political points, he is happy.

keyboard warriors knowing more than President of United States...:2rofll:

 

[jnug]

Spying on a presidential campaign isn't their job. :lamo

Spying is espionage. Espionage is the origin for the word spying. US IC, as in the FBI in this case was not engaged in espionage and CIA can't operate domestically. But I suppose I can't keep folks from continuing their exercise in oblivious, illogical, ignorant nonsense.

 

[jnug]

keyboard warriors knowing more than President of United States...:2rofll:

In this case, ABSOLUTELY!

 

[eohrnberger]

Barr has demonstrated uber-politicization of his role and DOJ in general. If you are not seeing it, not my problem.

By the way, Barr came up only in discussing CIA's role in this mission and the very real concern that we can't have it both ways. We can't have a functioning CIA and its benefits and a President and AG trying to rip them apart. Sorry...not logical. Barr traveling the world and rummaging through CIA files in the lap dog service of Trump is ludicrous.

CIA has a IG Barr Boy. Go back to your office at Justice and at least leave Durham alone.

You claim "Barr has demonstrated uber-politicization of his role and DOJ in general" yet offer no citations or demonstration that this is the case.
"If you are not seeing it, not my problem."
Dismissed due to lack of substantiation. Come back when you actually have something other than imagined things.

If you want to consider 'uber-politicization' of federal agencies, there is no administration who've taken this to new heights than the Obama administration, that is pretty apparent with the long list of scandals starting with his IRS, including his EPA, his AG and DOJ, as well as others agencies.

"We can't have a functioning CIA and its benefits and a President and AG trying to rip them apart."
You can't have Deep State bureaucrats in the CIA, State Department and FBI setting up, framing, spying on political opposition campaigns and candidates, plotting a soft coup to over turn election results they don't like, and still have a functioning Republic. I would have thought that this would be obvious to anyone paying the slightest bit of attention.

 

[eohrnberger]

. . .

Continued.

1. The FISA Report
   The first event reported is that the DOJ IG’s FISA report is about to be released. FOX News reported yesterday the following –
   Justice Department Inspector General Michael E. Horowitz told Senate and House lawmakers Thursday that the process of finalizing his report into potential Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) abuses ahead of the 2016 presidential election was “nearing completion,” according to a letter obtained by Fox News.
   The “lengthy” draft report “concerns sensitive national security and law enforcement matters,” Horowitz wrote in the letter, adding that he anticipated “the final report will be released publicly with few redactions.”
   Horowitz noted that he did not anticipate a need to prepare or issue “separate classified and public versions of the report.”
   ​
2. AG Barr and John Durham’s Investigation into Deep State crimes
   Last night we also received word that AG Barr’s Justice Department’s review into the actions of Deep State players before and after the 2016 election by DA John Durham has turned into a criminal investigation. The far-left New York Times broke the story –
   For more than two years, President Trump has repeatedly attacked the Russia investigation, portraying it as a hoax and illegal even months after the special counsel closed it. Now, Mr. Trump’s own Justice Department has opened a criminal investigation into how it all began.
   Justice Department officials have shifted an administrative review of the Russia investigation closely overseen by Attorney General William P. Barr to a criminal inquiry, according to two people familiar with the matter. The move gives the prosecutor running it, John H. Durham, the power to subpoena for witness testimony and documents, to convene a grand jury and to file criminal charges.
   ​
3. Sidney Powell’s filing Regarding General Flynn’s case
   We also found out late last night that Sidney Powell is aware of numerous documents and actions by Obama’s Deep State that have been withheld from General Flynn that are damning to the government’s case. These are so damning that she is asking the court to dismiss the case against General Flynn.
   What we learned is that among other things, former Deep State and FBI attorney Lisa Page altered the 302 document materially in a manner that implicated General Flynn for lying to the FBI. She then lied about making the edits. Page of course was the paramour of the most corrupt FBI Agent in history, Peter Strzok.
4. Recent Reports regarding Obama VP Biden’s pay-for-play scandals
   We also learned last night that Joe Biden during the time he was Obama’s VP, partook in actions resulting in payments to him and his son Hunter. These payments go beyond the Ukraine and China. Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani claimed previously that Biden was suspect of a pay-for-plan scandal in Romania. NBC News last night posted this piece –
   In the final year of the Obama administration, an American lawyer traveled to Romania to meet with a businessman accused of orchestrating a corrupt land deal.
   The businessman was Gabriel “Puiu” Popoviciu, a wealthy Romanian real estate tycoon. The lawyer brought in to advise him was Hunter Biden, the son of then-Vice President Joe Biden, according to two people familiar with the matter.
   Hunter Biden’s work for Popoviciu in 2016 went unreported at the time, but Joe Biden’s involvement in Romania was very much public. The vice president was among the leading voices pushing the government to crack down on corruption.
   ​

GET YOUR POPCORN READY – Four Different Reports Released Last Night Indicate the Days Ahead Will be Devastating for the DEEP STATE!

 

[Trump]

Go tell Bill Barr that. IC is doing their jobs. Not that you would notice.

I noticed how Brennan STFU after Criminal Investigation was revealed.

I noticed how Clapper said they were only doing what Obama wanted.

 

[eohrnberger]

. . .

Barr made his honorable intentions clear from the start.

Barr says 'I think spying did occur' against Trump campaign
Associated Press News › ...
Apr 10, 2019 - Barr, appearing before a Senate panel, did not say what “spying” may have ... Barr was testifying for a second day at congressional budget hearings that ... The question is whether it was predicated, adequately predicated,” ...You visited this page on 10/12/19.
​

It should be noted that Barr's being quite honest about this. Spying did occur and would be found legal and proper, if it was predicated to the required legal standards, and further, if the surveillance complied with the applicable legal requirements, and the following investigations did also. If all those things are to required standards, no problem. If not, then there's a pretty serious problem.

IG Horowitz has shown himself to be apolitical in his reports, of which, his FISA report is due in the very near future, so we'll see.

Durham as shown himself to be apolitical in his previous prosecutions.

That the Durham investigation as shifted from an investigation of the spying predicate to a criminal proceeding doesn't bode well for what was found during the investigation. We'll see when the indictments start to be issued.

 

[eohrnberger]

Spying on a presidential campaign isn't their job. :lamo

Spying is espionage. Espionage is the origin for the word spying. US IC, as in the FBI in this case was not engaged in espionage and CIA can't operate domestically. But I suppose I can't keep folks from continuing their exercise in oblivious, illogical, ignorant nonsense.

The CIA outsourcing the spying on a domestic political campaign to other '5 eyes' nation's intel agencies would certainly NOT be part of their job either.

1. British intelligence passed Trump associates' talks ... - CNN.com[/B]
   https://www.cnn.com › 2017/04/13 › politics › trump-russia-british-intellige...
   Apr 14, 2017 - Washington (CNN) British and other European intelligence agencies intercepted communications between associates of Donald Trump and ...
2. Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire – POLITICO
   [url]https://www.politico.com › story › ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446[/URL]
   Jan 11, 2017 - Donald Trump wasn't the only presidential candidate whose campaign was boosted by officials of a former Soviet bloc country. Ukrainian ...
3. Australian diplomat whose tip prompted FBI's Russia-probe ...
   [url]https://thehill.com › 376858-australian-diplomat-whose-tip-prompted-fbis-...[/URL]
   Mar 5, 2018 - The Australian diplomat whose tip in 2016 prompted the Russia-Trump investigation previously arranged one of the largest foreign donations to Bill and Hillary Clinton’s charitable efforts, documents show. ... Australia was one of four foreign governments to donate more than $25 ...

 

[jnug]

You claim "Barr has demonstrated uber-politicization of his role and DOJ in general" yet offer no citations or demonstration that this is the case.
"If you are not seeing it, not my problem."
Dismissed due to lack of substantiation. Come back when you actually have something other than imagined things.

If you want to consider 'uber-politicization' of federal agencies, there is no administration who've taken this to new heights than the Obama administration, that is pretty apparent with the long list of scandals starting with his IRS, including his EPA, his AG and DOJ, as well as others agencies.

"We can't have a functioning CIA and its benefits and a President and AG trying to rip them apart."
You can't have Deep State bureaucrats in the CIA, State Department and FBI setting up, framing, spying on political opposition campaigns and candidates and still have a functioning Republic. I would have thought that this would be obvious to anyone paying the slightest bit of attention.

Barr's uber-politization has been discussed ad nauseam just at this site. If you want to post here you should at least keep up here. Not here to educate you on the goings on within the site where you are posting.

But just for fun:
- Barr's use of sentence fragments to describe the Mueller report days before its release, UBER-POLITICAL
- Barr's use of the word "spying" relative to FBI and the Trump Campaign when somebody with Barr's background knows exactly the origins and meaning of the word spying. UBER-POLITICAL, uber-unethical and uber-unscrupulous
- Barr's delving into CIA records in order to lap dog for Trump's political benefit, UBER-POLITICAL
- Barr traveling the globe, literally embarrassing the USA in front if ITALY of all places, UBER-POLITICAL and uber-damaging to the USA

I do think Barr trying to distance himself from Rudy is sort of funny. They are both swimming in the same Trumpian swill. It is somewhat more disconcerting that Barr is swimming there.

 

[jnug]

The CIA outsourcing the spying on a domestic political campaign to other '5 eyes' nation's intel agencies would certainly NOT be part of their job either.

1. British intelligence passed Trump associates' talks ... - CNN.com[/B]
   https://www.cnn.com › 2017/04/13 › politics › trump-russia-british-intellige...
   Apr 14, 2017 - Washington (CNN) British and other European intelligence agencies intercepted communications between associates of Donald Trump and ...
2. Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire – POLITICO
   [url]https://www.politico.com › story › ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446[/URL]
   Jan 11, 2017 - Donald Trump wasn't the only presidential candidate whose campaign was boosted by officials of a former Soviet bloc country. Ukrainian ...
3. Australian diplomat whose tip prompted FBI's Russia-probe ...
   [url]https://thehill.com › 376858-australian-diplomat-whose-tip-prompted-fbis-...[/URL]
   Mar 5, 2018 - The Australian diplomat whose tip in 2016 prompted the Russia-Trump investigation previously arranged one of the largest foreign donations to Bill and Hillary Clinton’s charitable efforts, documents show. ... Australia was one of four foreign governments to donate more than $25 ...

That is not evidence of CIA outsourcing to conduct espionage operations on the Trump Campaign but thanks for playing.

 

[eohrnberger]

I noticed how Brennan STFU after Criminal Investigation was revealed.

Brennan lied when he said he first saw the Steele Dossier information in December, when there's evidence he was already aware of it during the July before.

Further, it's pretty clear that Brennan knew the Steele Dossier wasn't Steele's work, but rather Simpson of Fusion GPS's work. Just had to have Steele present it so that it had a veneer of credibility, even though the FBI already had already decided Steele wasn't a credible source before this.

I noticed how Clapper said they were only doing what Obama wanted.

As had Page's text to Strozk 'POTUS wants to know everything we are doing'. Clearly, this entire spying thing leads back Obama's White House.

 

[JackA]

I have to ask do you monitor what trump says and just Believe??? Have you not learned by now that you are being played?

Being played keeps them happy.

 

[jnug]

I noticed how Brennan STFU after Criminal Investigation was revealed.

I noticed how Clapper said they were only doing what Obama wanted.

I don't listen to ex-IC when they leave government. They just become part of the News Channel talking head nonsense. Channel does not matter by the way. Your mileage may vary.

If they want to "speak out" write a book and write it cogently, fomally and logically. IMO, their news channel crap is all nonsense. I view it as comic relief.

 

[eohrnberger]

That is not evidence of CIA outsourcing to conduct espionage operations on the Trump Campaign but thanks for playing.

Who do you think these foreign intel agencies were talking to? The US CIA, so that'd have been Brennan. This has been going on for a long time already.

Even before the first Republican primary, a London-to-Langley spy ring had begun to form against Donald Trump. British spies sent to CIA director John Brennan in late 2015 alleged intelligence on contacts between Trumpworld and the Russians, according to the Guardian.
Here’s the crucial paragraph in the story:

GCHQ first became aware in late 2015 of suspicious “interactions” between figures connected to Trump and known or suspected Russian agents, a source close to UK intelligence said. This intelligence was passed to the US as part of a routine exchange of information, they added.
​

Notice it doesn’t say the “Trump campaign” but “figures connected to Trump.” One of those figures was Michael Flynn, who didn’t join the campaign until February 2016. But Brennan and British intelligence had already started spying on him, drawing upon sham intelligence from Stefan Halper, a long-in-the-tooth CIA asset teaching at Cambridge University whom Brennan and Jim Comey would later send to infiltrate the Trump campaign’s ranks.
It appears that Halper had won Brennan’s confidence with a false report about Flynn in 2014 — a reported sighting of Flynn at Cambridge University talking too cozily with a Russian historian. Halper had passed this absurdly simpleminded tattle to a British spy who in turn gave it to Brennan, as one can deduce from this euphemistic account in the New York Times about Halper as the “informant”:
The London-to-Langley Spy Ring | The American Spectator

I guess it takes time to orchestrate a frame up, eh?

 

[eohrnberger]

Barr's uber-politization has been discussed ad nauseam just at this site. If you want to post here you should at least keep up here. Not here to educate you on the goings on within the site where you are posting.

But just for fun:
- Barr's use of sentence fragments to describe the Mueller report days before its release, UBER-POLITICAL

Barr was Mueller's boss and was his report to review and comment on. Nothing political here, unless a fevered imagination puts it there.

- Barr's use of the word "spying" relative to FBI and the Trump Campaign when somebody with Barr's background knows exactly the origins and meaning of the word spying. UBER-POLITICAL, uber-unethical and uber-unscrupulous

It is a quite accurate description of the actions taken. Nothing political here, unless a fevered imagination puts it there.

- Barr's delving into CIA records in order to lap dog for Trump's political benefit, UBER-POLITICAL
- Barr traveling the globe, literally embarrassing the USA in front if ITALY of all places, UBER-POLITICAL and uber-damaging to the USA

More specificity would help you here.

I do think Barr trying to distance himself from Rudy is sort of funny. They are both swimming in the same Trumpian swill. It is somewhat more disconcerting that Barr is swimming there.

Rudy is another NY loudmouth. Not surprising that Barr wish to distance himself from the political activities of Rudy.

 

[calamity]

I don't listen to ex-IC when they leave government. They just become part of the News Channel talking head nonsense. Channel does not matter by the way. Your mileage may vary.

If they want to "speak out" write a book and write it cogently, fomally and logically. IMO, their news channel crap is all nonsense. I view it as comic relief.

I think this guy has nine lives. Trump just got his sixth--same number as his bankruptcies.

 

[RaleBulgarian]

So, paraphrasing, Schwarzkopf believed Bill Clinton and Obama were strategists, schooled in operational art, tacticians, generals, soldiers.

You’re still missing the point. Sorry I can’t dumb it down anymore for you.

 

[calamity]

You’re still missing the point. Sorry I can’t dumb it down anymore for you.

lol...did you read where Trump is trying to peddle this as an Osama bin Laden moment? I bet his idiot supporters believe it too.

 

[calamity]

lol...Trump is lying out his ass.

In a statement, Russian Defense Ministry spokesman Major General Igor Konashenkov said the Russian military “does not have reliable information” on a US Special Operations raid in Syria’s Idlib province, adding: “The increasing number of direct participants and countries that allegedly took part in this ‘operation,’ each one giving completely contradictory details, raises legitimate questions and doubts about its existence and especially the level of its success.”

Live updates: Trump says ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is dead - CNNPolitics

 

[jnug]

Barr was Mueller's boss and was his report to review and comment on. Nothing political here, unless a fevered imagination puts it there.

Barr should have used complete sentences from the Mueller Report if he was going to use quotes from the Mueller Report. There was no legit, HONEST reason for using Muller Report sentence fragments in his "opinion". There was only devious, disingenuous, POLITICAL reasons for doing that.

It is a quite accurate description of the actions taken. Nothing political here, unless a fevered imagination puts it there.

Your interpretation, which you are welcome to

More specificity would help you here.

But I doubt it would help you at all. Keep up why don't you. It should be obvious to anybody that is keeping up.

Rudy is another NY loudmouth. Not surprising that Barr wish to distance himself from the political activities of Rudy.

Must bother Barr that Rudy is horning in on Barr's position fumbling for the zipper on Trump's fly.

 

[eohrnberger]

Barr should have used complete sentences from the Mueller Report if he was going to use quotes from the Mueller Report. There was no legit, HONEST reason for using Muller Report sentence fragments in his "opinion". There was only devious, disingenuous, POLITICAL reasons for doing that.

Your interpretation, which you are welcome to

Your interpretation, which you are welcome to





But I doubt it would help you at all. Keep up why don't you. It should be obvious to anybody that is keeping up.

Keeping up just fine with international morass which is the entrapment, setup, frame up, orchestrating of the spying by the Obama administration and their politicized federal intel and LEO agencies. the question becomes are you keeping up with that?

Must bother Barr that Rudy is horning in on Barr's position fumbling for the zipper on Trump's fly.

Disgusting fictitious mental imagery as a substitute for actually having something. So noted.

 

[vesper]

Reporter asked Trump about prior notification to Pelosi about the raid.

Trump said something to the effect: "Nope; too much leaking coming from the dems. Would have endangered the lives of our military guys."

:lol:

Very true and I am glad he said it.

 

[jnug]

Your interpretation, which you are welcome to



Keeping up just fine with international morass which is the entrapment, setup, frame up, orchestrating of the spying by the Obama administration and their politicized federal intel and LEO agencies. the question becomes are you keeping up with that?




Disgusting fictitious mental imagery as a substitute for actually having something. So noted.

OK big shot. What is your rational for Barr using sentence fragments when the actual full sentences were right there, not much longer than the fragments and would have been honest to the text of the Mueller Report which Barr's fragments WERE NOT? Lets see what ya' got.

Come on now. The debate teammates on your side of the panel are getting nervous and the debate judge's eyebrows are starting to furrow. You are losing points for being unprepared. Come on....Spit it out.

 

[calamity]

Bull**** photo op

Drumpf really cannot let go of the fact Obama was a better president. Can he?

 

[Excast]

Imagine golfing during the time of the raid and then being so insecure that you bring in all of these people to stage a photo to make it seem like you were engaged.

What a clown.