Some women at school today…

[Bob Blaylock]

One of my schoolmates is pregnant, and today, I took note of her passing around ultrasound pictures of her baby among some other women, and all of them oohing and aahhing over these pictures.

Call this baby by whatever hateful, dehumanizing term you will—“zef”, “clump of cells”, “parasite”, “tumor”, or whatever.

Watching these women cooing over these pictures of their schoolmate's baby, it was clear that they all knew what this really was—who this really was—to whom they were responding.

It is difficult for me to imagine the level of evil and depravity that it takes to deny the humanity of so precious and innocent a human being; and to argue for a right to summarily kill her.

 

[DrPepper]

One of my schoolmates is pregnant, and today, I took note of her passing around ultrasound pictures of her baby among some other women, and all of them oohing and aahhing over these pictures.

Call this baby by whatever hateful, dehumanizing term you will—“zef”, “clump of cells”, “parasite”, “tumor”, or whatever.

Watching these women cooing over these pictures of their schoolmate's baby, it was clear that they all knew what this really was—who this really was—to whom they were responding.

It is difficult for me to imagine the level of evil and depravity that it takes to deny the humanity of so precious and innocent a human being; and to argue for a right to summarily kill her.

Its a shame its only considered a baby when those on the left find it convenient.

 

[GEIxBattleRifle]

It is difficult for me to imagine the level of evil and depravity that it takes to deny the humanity of so precious and innocent a human being; and to argue for a right to summarily kill her.

There is no need to deny the humanity of the unborn and you can still be pro choice and still accept that. I really don't see why you made this thread.

 

[Aunt Spiker]

One of my schoolmates is pregnant, and today, I took note of her passing around ultrasound pictures of her baby among some other women, and all of them oohing and aahhing over these pictures.

Call this baby by whatever hateful, dehumanizing term you will—“zef”, “clump of cells”, “parasite”, “tumor”, or whatever.

Watching these women cooing over these pictures of their schoolmate's baby, it was clear that they all knew what this really was—who this really was—to whom they were responding.

It is difficult for me to imagine the level of evil and depravity that it takes to deny the humanity of so precious and innocent a human being; and to argue for a right to summarily kill her.

Hey hey!

I started referring to an unborn as a zef because a lot of the pro-life AND pro-choice people flipped out anytime I referenced the unborn at the wrong phase. They'll derail and entire thread all over a term. So whatever - they get ZEF. That's what whining gets people. Some ****ty initialized word blob of a mess.

All the same to me. I'm not at all wrapped up in what to call it. It's the topic we discuss that matters.

 

[a351]

Babies are great. Not everyone needs, wants, or is suited to have a baby. That ultimately should be their choice, seeing as it will ultimately be their legal, emotional and financial responsibility. Simple stuff.

 

[TheDemSocialist]

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What he said! :applaud:applaud

 

[Aunt Spiker]

Babies are great. Not everyone needs, wants, or is suited to have a baby. That ultimately should be their choice, seeing as it will ultimately be their legal, emotional and financial responsibility. Simple stuff.

Yes - and note how he's not talking about the teen girl huddled in a closet and crying her eyes out because her boyfriend just left her after he found out she was pregnant.

Yes - it's all happy moments and none of the bad, here, with heads in the sand and all.

 

[Paschendale]

I'm sure her reaction would be different if she already had two kids and was struggling to feed them. Or had been raped. I'm certainly glad that's not the case, but many situations aren't like hers.

 

[Josie]

One of my schoolmates is pregnant, and today, I took note of her passing around ultrasound pictures of her baby among some other women, and all of them oohing and aahhing over these pictures.

Call this baby by whatever hateful, dehumanizing term you will—“zef”, “clump of cells”, “parasite”, “tumor”, or whatever.

Watching these women cooing over these pictures of their schoolmate's baby, it was clear that they all knew what this really was—who this really was—to whom they were responding.

It is difficult for me to imagine the level of evil and depravity that it takes to deny the humanity of so precious and innocent a human being; and to argue for a right to summarily kill her.

I think most pro-choice people if they're honest do agree that an unborn child at any stage is human and growing and living. It's just that they think it's okay to kill that baby up until a certain point because of whatever justifications they can come up with. I find it very sad that anyone would want to kill their own child.... even if they already had 3 kids and weren't ready for another one or teenagers. The child doesn't deserve death because you were unprepared or made a mistake. :shrug:

 

[RamFel]

There is no need to deny the humanity of the unborn and you can still be pro choice and still accept that. I really don't see why you made this thread.

I know why. To remind the left that a baby is a baby and the argument that it's not is just dumb. This story about the women cooing over the baby illustrates that. What are you so.afraid of that you have to kill babies and then defend your actions by making up stories about women's rights, no babies being killed, babies being harmful to women and on and on. We'll listen. Is it overpopulation? Food shortages? Because it certainly isn't for the benefit for anybody. Tell the truth for once!

 

[Lord of Planar]

One of my schoolmates is pregnant, and today, I took note of her passing around ultrasound pictures of her baby among some other women, and all of them oohing and aahhing over these pictures.

Call this baby by whatever hateful, dehumanizing term you will—“zef”, “clump of cells”, “parasite”, “tumor”, or whatever.

Watching these women cooing over these pictures of their schoolmate's baby, it was clear that they all knew what this really was—who this really was—to whom they were responding.

It is difficult for me to imagine the level of evil and depravity that it takes to deny the humanity of so precious and innocent a human being; and to argue for a right to summarily kill her.

I agree.

Why is it that people can either classify this clump of cells as life, or trash, is beyond me. It is innocent life, and deserves to be protected.

 

[Lord of Planar]

Babies are great. Not everyone needs, wants, or is suited to have a baby. That ultimately should be their choice, seeing as it will ultimately be their legal, emotional and financial responsibility. Simple stuff.

Just how responsible is a person who doesn't want a baby, and gets pregnant?

Shouldn't we all be responsible for our actions?

 

[minnie616]

Just how responsible is a person who doesn't want a baby, and gets pregnant?

Shouldn't we all be responsible for our actions?

Just how responsible is a person who carefully drives and gets rear ended through no fault of own?
A woman/couple who uses birth control carefully but the birth control fails is no more at fault than the driver in my previous example.

Accidents happen even when being careful.

 

[Dragonfly]

Just how responsible is a person who doesn't want a baby, and gets pregnant?

Shouldn't we all be responsible for our actions?

Sure is easy for a male to make such a statement.

 

[Dragonfly]

Babies are great. Not everyone needs, wants, or is suited to have a baby. That ultimately should be their choice, seeing as it will ultimately be their legal, emotional and financial responsibility. Simple stuff.

Awesome. Thank you.

 

[Ocean007]

Just how responsible is a person who doesn't want a baby, and gets pregnant?

Just how responsible is a GUY who doesn't want a baby, and GETS a girl pregnant? Not much.

 

[Gringo allstar]

I think some people need to dump the trash at an abortion clinic for a month or so and then tell us its a choice.

 

[Dragonfly]

People also refer to their dogs, cats, horses, grown children, nephews, nieces, cousins, .....as "their babies" also.

People, coo and ahhh over pictures of puppies and kittens and ...................

The vast majority of pro-choice people never get abortions.
The vast majority of pro-choice people are thrilled to no end to become parents.
The vast majority of pro-choice people behave and act no differently regarding pregnancy then pro-life people do.

 

[Ocean007]

One of my schoolmates is pregnant, and today, I took note of her passing around ultrasound pictures of her baby among some other women, and all of them oohing and aahhing over these pictures.

So? Obviously, this woman WANTED to be pregnant, which is great...for her. Many women, myself included, DON'T want pregnancy or babies. Thankfully, motherhood is a CHOICE, not a requirement or obligation.

 

[GEIxBattleRifle]

Shouldn't we all be responsible for our actions?

Of course and it is the women's responsibility to decide rather or not to carry full term or not.

 

[prometeus]

I think some people need to dump the trash at an abortion clinic for a month or so and then tell us its a choice.

I bet you thought that you made such a clever post.

 

[prometeus]

One of my schoolmates is pregnant, and today, I took note of her passing around ultrasound pictures of her baby among some other women, and all of them oohing and aahhing over these pictures.

Call this baby by whatever hateful, dehumanizing term you will—“zef”, “clump of cells”, “parasite”, “tumor”, or whatever.

Watching these women cooing over these pictures of their schoolmate's baby, it was clear that they all knew what this really was—who this really was—to whom they were responding.

It is difficult for me to imagine the level of evil and depravity that it takes to deny the humanity of so precious and innocent a human being; and to argue for a right to summarily kill her.

It is far greater depravity to deny people self determination and impose on them religious dogma. Throughout history far more people have died because Deus Vult.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

It is far greater depravity to deny people self determination and impose on them religious dogma. Throughout history far more people have died because Deus Vult.

Abortion certainly deprives a human being of self-determination. Just since 1973, about fifty five million human beings in this nation have died as a direct result of abortion. To what religious cause can you attribute any similar scale of death?

 

[prometeus]

Abortion certainly deprives a human being of self-determination. Just since 1973, about fifty five million human beings in this nation have died as a direct result of abortion. To what religious cause can you attribute any similar scale of death?

What is the total in the bible? Add Crusades, Muslim conquest, etc. etc. and you will see.

By the way not all religions and not all people withint the same religion view fetuses as human beings. On the other hand the killings I am mentioning are of undeniable people.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

What is the total in the bible? Add Crusades, Muslim conquest, etc. etc. and you will see.

By the way not all religions and not all people withint [sic] the same religion view fetuses as human beings. On the other hand the killings I am mentioning are of undeniable people.

So is abortion. That some evil people deny the humanity of the innocent children who are thus slaughtered does not put them in any better position than all the other mass murderers and other abusers of mankind throughout history who have denied the humanity of their victims, in order to assuage their consciences.