Some millionares step up for america

[presluc]

Two dozen wealthy members of the group Patriotic Millionaires for Fiscal Strength are targeting members of the deficit "supercommittee" to increase their taxes.
Entrepreneur and producer Charlie Fink, said he and other Patriotic Millionaires testified in a congressional hearing and visited the offices of 13 members of Congress on Wednesday, seven of whom are members of the supercommittee, to express their concern for the country's fiscal health.
Fink, who lives in Washington, D.C., said if the Bush tax cuts do not expire, the country "is digging itself a big hole by foregoing revenue."
"Without revenue, we will never solve the problem by giving tax cuts to the wealthy while supporting two foreign wars," Fink, a former AOL executive, said.

If some of the Right wing debaters have been keeping up with the debate on rich tax cuts and my post.
I have often said for the benifit of America.

These few millionares are not afraid to loosen the pockets to help our country in it's time of need.
Now, my question is if these millionares have to ask the United States government to spend more money on the United States of America MY QUESTION IS WHY?

Another question is are these few the only millionares getting tax cuts if not, where are the rest?
Yet another question; If these millionares can ask to spend more money on taxes, can not the rich corporations spend more on hireing American workers in America???

It is difficult to look a gift horse in the mouth as they say but could this response have anything to do with the recent violence in the protest of the financial section of New York or, the vilolence that took place in Seattle to support the protestors of Wall street?eace

 

[Paschendale]

It is difficult to look a gift horse in the mouth as they say but could this response have anything to do with the recent violence in the protest of the financial section of New York or, the vilolence that took place in Seattle to support the protestors of Wall street?eace

The protests seem to be working, then. People are paying attention to the issue, and seeing where public support really lies.

 

[presluc]

The protests seem to be working, then. People are paying attention to the issue, and seeing where public support really lies.

Well, nobody wants violence in the streets I went through some of that back in the 60's.
However, average Americans will take so much and say enough then they take action.
Perhaps these millionares offering to help America was because of the protest perhaps not. either way America needs help with a bad economy and tax revenue as well as debts.eace

 

[TheDemSocialist]

But.. But.. If we raise taxes on the rich *I mean job creators* there will be no more jobs! :ssst:

 

[presluc]

But.. But.. If we raise taxes on the rich *I mean job creators* there will be no more jobs! :ssst:

LOL, WITH THE UNEMPLOYMENT AT 9+ AND RISEING, WITH AVERAGE WAGE STAGNANT, WITH A NATIONAL DEBT GOING UP, PRICES GOING UP, OUTSOURCEING INCREACEING

With 49 million people living on poverty wage, with 29 states in high unemployment and debt.

Tell me what have we to lose???eace

 

[TurtleDude]

what does this have to do with education?

and what stops those turds from paying more on their own without demanding everyone else who is wealthy pay more?

those people are hardly patriots. they are mainly hard core lefties who are rich or who gain power by having the dems in office. they are merely advocating what benefits them

 

[roughdraft274]

what does this have to do with education?

and what stops those turds from paying more on their own without demanding everyone else who is wealthy pay more?

those people are hardly patriots. they are mainly hard core lefties who are rich or who gain power by having the dems in office. they are merely advocating what benefits them

More class warfare coming from the righties. Big surprise there.

:lamo

 

[TurtleDude]

More class warfare coming from the righties. Big surprise there.

:lamo

only the loser mentality would consider doing well to be waging war on the untalented. its like claiming honors students are waging war-by working hard-on the retards, the lazy and the class cutters.

 

[presluc]

what does this have to do with education?

and what stops those turds from paying more on their own without demanding everyone else who is wealthy pay more?

those people are hardly patriots. they are mainly hard core lefties who are rich or who gain power by having the dems in office. they are merely advocating what benefits them

Look Dude you don't have to whine and cry or make excues this was done by millionares that wanted to do it's not mandatary.
You and your money are safe ,, uhh I think, better go check, hurry now. lol,lol
Just haveing some fun.
Although it is true not everybody can't be a man and help when their country needs it, some " cough" present com... like... Tur,,, "cough" simply don't have the nerve.

There, there, it's ok Turtledude, America still loves ya, at least I think so??loleace

 

[roughdraft274]

only the loser mentality would consider doing well to be waging war on the untalented.

Yea, I never said that. As fun as it is to debate someone that can't understand what I'm telling them, I have better stuff to do. You keep sitting here thinking the other side hates you just because they have a policy disagreement with you.

:lamo

 

[TurtleDude]

Look Dude you don't have to whine and cry or make excues this was done by millionares that wanted to do it's not mandatary.
You and your money are safe ,, uhh I think, better go check, hurry now. lol,lol
Just haveing some fun.
Although it is true not everybody can't be a man and help when their country needs it, some " cough" present com... like... Tur,,, "cough" simply don't have the nerve.

There, there, it's ok Turtledude, America still loves ya, at least I think so??loleace

more mindless statist parasitic drivel. paying more taxes does not help the country-its like giving an addict more dope. and those assholes are interested in the dems retaining power which they think comes with supporting dem class warfare. If you think those supposed patriots are really patriotic you are more gullible than I once believed. THose turds can pay more money without grandstanding and demanding others be soaked more so the funds can be used to buy the votes of the dem minions which is a collection of parasites, dependents and others who want the rich to fund their handouts.

and only a statist thinks that paying taxes is the only way people help the country. being independent and not reliant on the government or other's wealth is far more helpful to this country than whining that others need to pay more taxes to feed an out of control malignancy

 

[TurtleDude]

Yea, I never said that. As fun as it is to debate someone that can't understand what I'm telling them, I have better stuff to do. You keep sitting here thinking the other side hates you just because they have a policy disagreement with you.

:lamo

wow that's a rather strange interpretation

 

[Caine]

I believe the group wants to up the tax rate so that they can, via their taxes, pay for the wars and other expenses that jumped through the roof as a result of 9/11 and all the security measures thereafter.

I agree with that. We should not have fought any wars and increased defense spending in a large amount without increasing taxes (and definitely not while DECREASING taxes). Defense spending is a legitimate purpose of taxation.

I disagree that this has anything to do with the Occupy group's message.
They want "redistribution" of wealth, which essentially means no change for our debt, because the increased money received from taxes is supposed to be redistributed to the unmotivated folks who don't want to work.

 

[Caine]

what does this have to do with education?

and what stops those turds from paying more on their own without demanding everyone else who is wealthy pay more?

those people are hardly patriots. they are mainly hard core lefties who are rich or who gain power by having the dems in office. they are merely advocating what benefits them

You don't think that folks should pay more (not less) to support the government when their government fights a war in their defense?

I mean, if you vote for folks and support the decisions in going to war, then why not support paying more money to fight that war?

 

[1Perry]

I'll ask the question again....what does this have to do with education? This is already being discussed in the relative areas.

 

[Keridan]

I find it interesting that these stories are so big. People act as if the 24-100 people speak for the whole 1%. See!? These 0.3% of the top 1% say "tax me" so it's okay!

Just punishing the rich is not the answer. Tax revenues might have to be slightly higher, but when we are spending $1,302,818,603,523.00 MORE than we are taking in (or $3,602,507,053,323.00 total), something else needs to be addressed. There needs to be SEVERE spending cuts here.

Also, I will note that the reason crony capitalism even works is because government is oversized and overpowered enough to make it worth buying. Time to cut their spending and their power!

I will note that I'm in favor of a progressive tax system, but it should be about 1 page long, not include deductions, and not be the main debate platform during elections.

 

[TurtleDude]

You don't think that folks should pay more (not less) to support the government when their government fights a war in their defense?

I mean, if you vote for folks and support the decisions in going to war, then why not support paying more money to fight that war?

I have a great idea, those who support the war can pay for it-those who support all the socialist spending programs can pay for that. I suspect the former group's taxes will go down, the latter will skyrocket

 

[Caine]

I have a great idea, those who support the war can pay for it-those who support all the socialist spending programs can pay for that. I suspect the former group's taxes will go down, the latter will skyrocket

Then you completely weren't paying much attention to the OP were you.

You saw... Wealthy said "Tax me" and threw a fit.

 

[Thunder]

There is NO logical, rational, nor intelligent reason why folks who make $379,000 a year and $579 million a year, should have the same income tax-rate.

In 1925 under President Calvin Coolidge (GOP), we had 23 tax-rates. We now have 6. This is stupid.

 

[TurtleDude]

Then you completely weren't paying much attention to the OP were you.

You saw... Wealthy said "Tax me" and threw a fit.

threw a fit? you are full of it. I find it funny that some people slurp up far lefties who push programs that benefit the far left and act like its some sort of altruism on the far lefties' part

 

[TurtleDude]

There is NO logical, rational, nor intelligent reason why folks who make $379,000 a year and $579 million a year, should have the same income tax-rate.

In 1925 under President Calvin Coolidge (GOP), we had 23 tax-rates. We now have 6. This is stupid.

its not rational that those who pay far more taxes should have to pay even higher rates

 

[Thunder]

threw a fit? you are full of it. I find it funny that some people slurp up far lefties who push programs that benefit the far left and act like its some sort of altruism on the far lefties' part

far-left? please name these "far-left" programs.

 

[Thunder]

its not rational that those who pay far more taxes should have to pay even higher rates

why in Dog's name should someone who makes $54 million and someone who makes $34,000...pay the same tax-rate?

 

[Caine]

threw a fit? you are full of it. I find it funny that some people slurp up far lefties who push programs that benefit the far left and act like its some sort of altruism on the far lefties' part

WTF?

Im a far lefty?

I agree if we fight a war, we should increase taxes to fund that war.
We didn't, and we have to make up for it somewhere and at some point........

Thats all Im saying.... This has NOTHING to do with welfare spending programs or what programs benefit what political party.

Unless some bastions of jack-assery around here, I care about what is good for the country, regardless of what jack ass politician and political party decides to implement the program.


The fact is, we WILL need to increase taxes as some point to pay for the increased SPENDING we had to do to fight wars. Wars don't get fought on the same budget as we had during peace-time.

 

[TurtleDude]

why in Dog's name should someone who makes $54 million and someone who makes $34,000...pay the same tax-rate?

actually the rich guy should pay lower rates since he is paying far far more actual tax dollars for absolutely no additional benefits