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Some far-left groups have encouraged peaceful protests to turn violent, experts say

Yep no left wing violence.
That’s why there was none during the BLM protests or now during the ICE protests.
Trump is a republican leader and provokes violence.

Democratic leaders denounce violence.

Partisan hacks can’t change the facts.
 
Trump is putting on a show of his immigration enforcement. He’s sending them out wildly, they’re picking up US citizens, children at school, a US marshall; hell, they’re changing people’s legal status from legal to illegal to prop up their numbers.

He’s provoking violence. It’s not democrats being violent, we renounce the violence, like I did. The opposite of what Trump does.
So….are you saying Trump set cars on fire, hurled cement blocks at law enforcement, looted apple stores? Come on…you are seriously looking foolish right now. :ROFLMAO:
 
Trump is a republican leader and provokes violence.

Democratic leaders denounce violence.

Partisan hacks can’t change the facts.
:ROFLMAO: I actually can’t respond with anything but….laughter
 
Trump is a republican leader and provokes violence.

Democratic leaders denounce violence.

Partisan hacks can’t change the facts.
You make that claim and yet history disagrees with you.

And it’s funny how you immediately shifted from right vs left to only wanting to talk about party leaders
 
Trump is putting on a show of his immigration enforcement. He’s sending them out wildly, they’re picking up US citizens, children at school, a US marshall; hell, they’re changing people’s legal status from legal to illegal to prop up their numbers.

He’s provoking violence. It’s not democrats being violent, we renounce the violence, like I did. The opposite of what Trump does.
Complete denial of reality is not the flex you seem to think it is.
 
That we are.
I'll be watching my own state, CA. and listening to Gavin's lying excuses for those who break the law.
Oh I am sure he will have a speech ready. Won’t matter. He has lost all control of the state he vowed to protect. He doesn’t care two shi*ts about California…he has moved into President mode for the next election, and throwing his own state under the bus to get there is perfectly fine in his mind. Good Luck Cally.
 
So I take that is a NO, you cannot offer evidence. It’s all good. I suspected it would to that way.
If you accuse someone without any evidence that they are a child molester, I cannot offer any evidence that they are not one. Similarly, if a habitual liar without any evidence accuses Haitians of eating people's pets in Ohio, I cannot offer any evidence that they are not doing what he is accusing them of without any evidence. (See Russell's teapot: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell's_teapot)

However, I don't like to accuse people of things they have not done, particularly people that have already faced a lot of adversity in life like Haitian immigrants have faced, so if someone without evidence accuses them of eating people's pets, I dismiss that claim because they didn't provide any evidence for it. Why would I do that? Because, I have a conscience and I try to have integrity. Support of my "tribe" or a political candidate is not worth me sacrificing my conscience or integrity. This is why I argue on here with people on the left all the time when I think they are wrong about something. For example, this is why I condemned Biden's handling of the pullout from Afghanistan on here, even started threads about it. This is why I said Biden should drop out of the race when it was apparent he was half senile. This is why in October of 2024, I started a thread on here detailing why Harris was going to lose. This is why after she lost, I started a thread detailing how toxic woke politics and identity politics were.

You are on here arguing that you don't know if Haitians were eating people's pets or not even though there is zero evidence they were doing that. I would be ashamed to accuse a whole group of people of something like that without evidence or have a take of "well, who knows if they were...", when there was no evidence of it, but I guess some people are really tribal and they just can't go against their tribe no matter what. It's sad, and people from both sides doing that is a lot of what is wrong with our country today.
 
Hindsight is 20/20 as they say, and I think much of the United States remembers the mass protests staged during Trump's prior administration.

If there are bad apples during these protests taking part in burning, looting, violence, and murder, I don't think it's going to go over the way that it did the first time.

And I think various officials taking the possible threats seriously is a good thing. And I'm sure that they are all aware of threats coming from all sides of the political spectrums.

A prior poster said it well. America is watching.
 
Plenty of facts here along with over 100 sources listed that any fan of “fact” and “truth” would readily take to digesting and analyzing.

Wikipedia??? LOL. I am actually good with people not eating cats. Now…I am still waiting for proof that I ever said they DID. Of course you can provide that…..correct?
 
Wikipedia??? LOL. I am actually good with people not eating cats. Now…I am still waiting for proof that I ever said they DID. Of course you can provide that…..correct?
I figure you’d ignore any source of facts put in front of you. What I don’t understand is why you bother with the charade? You’re loyal to Donald, we all know it, so why the charade?
 
If you accuse someone without any evidence that they are a child molester, I cannot offer any evidence that they are not one. Similarly, if a habitual liar without any evidence accuses Haitians of eating people's pets in Ohio, I cannot offer any evidence that they are not doing what he is accusing them of without any evidence. (See Russell's teapot: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell's_teapot)

However, I don't like to accuse people of things they have not done, particularly people that have already faced a lot of adversity in life like Haitian immigrants have faced, so if someone without evidence accuses them of eating people's pets, I dismiss that claim because they didn't provide any evidence for it. Why would I do that? Because, I have a conscience and I try to have integrity. Support of my "tribe" or a political candidate is not worth me sacrificing my conscience or integrity. This is why I argue on here with people on the left all the time when I think they are wrong about something. For example, this is why I condemned Biden's handling of the pullout from Afghanistan on here, even started threads about it. This is why I said Biden should drop out of the race when it was apparent he was half senile. This is why in October of 2024, I started a thread on here detailing why Harris was going to lose. This is why after she lost, I started a thread detailing how toxic woke politics and identity politics were.

You are on here arguing that you don't know if Haitians were eating people's pets or not even though there is zero evidence they were doing that. I would be ashamed to accuse a whole group of people of something like that without evidence or have a take of "well, who knows if they were...", when there was no evidence of it, but I guess some people are really tribal and they just can't go against their tribe no matter what. It's sad, and people from both sides doing that is a lot of what is wrong with our country today.
Actually what I am doing is saying I never ever stated that I said they did or did not eat cats. Which is factual. I was accused of comments that I never made. And when I asked to presented evidence of those claims…..I got more BS.
I am totally open to anyone…including you to show where I EVER accused anyhow of eating cats. That is where the problem lies in our Country. You HAVE to pick sides. You cannot ever believe there is a middle ground in any perception. It is all or nothing. Which is part of the reason our County struggles.
 
I figure you’d ignore any source of facts put in front of you. What I don’t understand is why you bother with the charade? You’re loyal to Donald, we all know it, so why the charade?
I am loyal to me. I am loyal to my Country and my family. I have lived long enough and been through enough in my life to be honest. Politics are a small part of my life. And a small part of my daily joy.
 
Tell that to rightwing nutjobs, like Governor DeSantis:

"If you’re driving on one of those streets and a mob comes and surrounds your vehicle and threatens you, you have a right to flee for your safety. And so if you drive off and you hit one of these people, that’s their fault for impinging on you."​

If that isn't a license to kill protesters, what is?
DeSantis, stop pushing for violence. Your state already has super robust self defense laws. Don't be like these leftwing groups experts say do the same. We need less violence, not more.

Happy?

But... why the deflection?
 
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I am loyal to me. I am loyal to my Country and my family. I have lived long enough and been through enough in my life to be honest. Politics are a small part of my life. And a small part of my daily joy.
You are so loyal to Donald that you can’t even bring yourself to spend 5 minutes looking into the facts of whether he lied about Haitians eating cats even when it was handed to you.

You have a mediocre evening, unknown and unloved by Donald for all eternity.
 
Oh I am sure he will have a speech ready. Won’t matter. He has lost all control of the state he vowed to protect. He doesn’t care two shi*ts about California…he has moved into President mode for the next election, and throwing his own state under the bus to get there is perfectly fine in his mind. Good Luck Cally.
Do you follow him? I do over on X.
He is completely unhinged. A total trainwreck. He sounds just like every other crazy Democrat who helped to put their party in a dumpster fire.
 
Experts on what, demonizing Democrats?
What? Did you read the article?

And are you suggesting that Democrats are the ones pushing for violence?

Why?
 
So….are you saying Trump set cars on fire, hurled cement blocks at law enforcement, looted apple stores? Come on…you are seriously looking foolish right now. :ROFLMAO:
:ROFLMAO: I actually can’t respond with anything but….laughter
I know, you can’t address my argument because it’s devastating to your worldview. It must be difficult to keep having to distort reality to make Trump not look like the terrorist leader he is.

Thankfully, democratic leaders, unlike Trump, denounce violence.
 
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