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So will we be seeing that McConnell and Co. really are the hypocrites they have been accused of being?

Metric Mouse said:
Joe Biden, September, 2016:

Joe Biden, September 2020: "Don't vote to confirm anyone nominated under the circumstances. "

Hypocrisy clearly on both sides. Neither side cares.
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Is it really hypocrisy to expect that the Republicans play by the new set of rules they put in place? See, sgain, bacl in 2016, Biden was on the go ahead and have the hearings bandwagon. Under no circumstances does that mean they had the obligation to consent to the nominee, only that they would allow the president to at least make the nomination as the Constitution allows. The Republicans vociferously went the extra step of arguing that they not only shouldnt do that, but that he shouldnt even get to make the nomination at all.

Expecting them to play by those rules now isnt a flip flop, seeing as to how he was in favor of leaving the rules the way they had always been to begin with.....something about the old saying about being careful what you wish for.
 
justabubba said:
they have one that will make reich-wing heads explode
when biden expands the supreme court by adding three justices:
Garland
Obama
and hillary
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FIRST...Biden has to win. That's looking more and more like it's never going to happen. Even among the Dems.

SECOND...if they do that, they will be blowing themselves up.

No, that's not a grenade. That's suicide.
 


But it is different. Different because back when Scalia passed Obama and the Dems did not have a majority of Senators at that time so the White House and the Senate did not agree. The system is designed for that "check and balance". Therefore just as Obama had said years before, "elections have consequences". And as a consequence of the will of the people to have a majority of Republican congress people during Obama's last months in power, that meant NOT injecting Obama's choice over the standing "will of the people" -- and waiting for the voters to decide. That is the big difference.

Currently the White House and the Senate are in what we expect to be agreement on most judicial nominees. It is the current standing will of the people.

It would be a different matter however if Biden were to defeat Trump in November and also the dems take control of the senate, and then Trump during his remaining "lame duck" time in office attempted to get a nominee into the seat---- I think there would be room to complain about that. But that would never happen anyway. If they are worried now whether there are enough Republican senators to confirm a possible nominee before the election, after the election and a loss, there would be even fewer Republican senators wanting to confirm a lame duck nominee.

Right now Trump is NOT a lame duck president, and the current Republican controlled senate is not a lame duck senate. They are the will of the voters, and should be choosing then next Supreme court justice. That was NOT the case with Obama.
 
This is the correct answer^
 
I had this discussion with my wife last night.....

I believe the GOP should sit on this....i really do

If Trump is reelected, then yes, of course he can submit his names. If not, then Biden can submit his.

With two months to go before the election, now is not the time to try and jam a SCOTUS nominee through

I may be in the minority on this one from my party....but i think this is the way to go.
 
Sounds very reasonable. Neither the President nor the Turtleman are reasonable people though, so expect seeing them try to force a nomination through (it's also useful for campaigning to talk about how they're nominating the most Conservative judge of all the times, which Trump will for sure tout about).
 

While I agree with you in regards to the idea of them ramming a choice through after an electoral loss, I disagree with you about the situation not being the same otherwise.

As I stated before, none of this would be an issue if THEY THEMSELVES hadnt stood before the American people and proclaimed that 9 months before a presidential election was too close to that election to let the current occupant make a choice and have the Senate at least do thier damned job. Obama WAS the will of the people and was entitled to all the "perks" of the job for the full length of his term, not his term minus 9 months. Im not even suggesting that an opposing Senate would rubber stamp the nominee, just that they give the nomination the treatment it justly deserved by reason of the Constitution. They chose not to do that and gave some pretty damning reasons why.....but I guess expecting them to take the medicine from the same bottle they doled it out from 4 years ago would be a bridge too far, eh?
 

Moronic and dishonest both-sides deflection.
 
justabubba said:
what hypocrites are your referring to?[ part 1 of 2 parts there are so many]:
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Now do the Democrats. Or are you going to pretend that Democrats don't do that type of thing.?(gagg)
 
Mr Person said:
Moronic and dishonest both-sides deflection.
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You mean 100 % accurate.
But I wouldn't expect a hyperpartisan hack to acknowledge that.
 
4 years of payback coming for Stretch Pelosi. I hope they break it off deep with no grease. #FillTheSeat
 
Come on. McConnell is just as corrupt as Trump.

History won't be good to that dude (once the kids take over and everything that this era of Trump/McConnell Republicans did is kicked to the curb.
 
Hypocrisy is what the GOP excels in. See their move to defund the NYPD as an example of Bernd
 
VySky said:
4 years of payback coming for Stretch Pelosi. I hope they break it off deep with no grease. #FillTheSeat
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One party rule, must mean you want to live in a white version of Zimbabwe.
 
calamity said:
One party rule, must mean you want to live in a white version of Zimbabwe.
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Its was a one party rule from 2008-2016. The Republicans might be finding a pair
 
VySky said:
Russia
Mueller
Impeachment
Kavanaugh
Ukraine


Now POTUS has his say...... Nice.....
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you're still a massive hypocrite.

is that how you taught your kids to be?
 

Even going further back, with the Biden rule, and how that compared to Garland. Both sides are hypocritical. The difference is, the left has the media to cover for them.
 


Bush v. Gore did not set precedent for stopping the counting of votes. It stopped recounting of votes. Cruz's argument is complete BS... We had 8 justices in 2016...
 
haymarket said:
A perfect description of a Trumpkin!
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iLOL Says you; Someone suffering from a lack of an unbiased and realistic viewpoint.

Trumpkin? iLOL Better than being a hypocrite liberal who has idiotic opinions like you.
 
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