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Snowflakes and A-bombs.

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Shepard Smith, a Fox News reporter, said something to the effect that no US president before Trump has made such bellicose statements regarding world affairs in reference to President Trump’s “fire and fury” comments on North Korean leader Kim Jong-Un. Smith’s words mirror the indignation of much of the left.

Apparently Shep forgot about JFK saying that any missile launched from Cuba against the United States will be regarded as an attack on the US by the Soviet Union requiring a full retaliatory response by the US on the Soviet Union. Remember the Cuban Missile Crisis? Those of us who were alive at the time were glad Kennedy took a stand in 1962 when Fidel Castro was rattling the saber of Soviet missiles.

Kennedy stood his ground, the Soviets backed down and the missiles were removed from Cuban soil just 90 miles from our shores. We were also thankful that the Soviets did not give Castro the secret of the atom allowing him to build his own nuclear arsenal.

The only thing that has really changed today is the spreading “snowflake” mindset of the American population. If you say what you mean and mean what you say as a leader, indoctrinated snowflakes are enraged that you are committing micro-aggressions that offend the world at large. It’s abundantly clear that basic survival instincts are being “re-educated” out of much of the American population.

The kids in college today are no different than we were. But they’re getting shafted because they are just Sputnik-inspired cash cows brainwashed with all sorts of idiosyncratic culture-bending glorified Tupperware seminars in the guise of manufactured societal struggles-men against women, gays against heterosexuals, whites against blacks, rich against poor, old against young-you name it.

Most survive and come to their senses but snowflakes are problematic. They have no perception of the power of the atom and the evil of those who seek it. They have an almost Pavlovian attachment to fairness and feelings. They have no grasp of actual history where the appeasement policies of Clinton, Bush and Obama have lead us to the brink of a nuclear catastrophe on the wings of shady diplomacy and a distorted Neville-Chamberlain-like “understanding” of those who want to destroy us.

A properly nurtured snowflake is likely to see the president as more of a threat than Kim Jong-Un. When you can’t make sense of the world you’re toast.
 

http://www.historyplace.com/speeches/jfk-cuban.htm
It shall be the policy of this Nation to regard any nuclear missile launched from Cuba against any nation in the Western Hemisphere as an attack by the Soviet Union on the United States, requiring a full retaliatory response upon the Soviet Union.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/08/world/asia/north-korea-un-sanctions-nuclear-missile-united-nations.html
“North Korea best not make any more threats to the United States,”... “They will be met with fire and fury like the world has never seen.”

While I understand that this post is just a continuation of butt hurt boomers pretending like their generation is God's gift to the world it is also important to point out that an attack and a threat are very different things.
 
The boomers are the millennials God-gifted generation to their everlasting benefit.

Grow up, kids, and learn from your elders. What a buncha snowflake goofs you are turning out to be.
 
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It's not at all clear whether Trump says what he means and means what he says. It's not clear whether we, or even Kim Jung Un, should take Trump seriously or literally now. After all, when we were all scratching our heads over all the weird things that Trump said in his campaign, you guys were making fun of us saying that YOU knew what he really meant- because you took him seriously, and weren't wasting time trying to figure out exactly what he meant. Remember how he said he would build a wall and have Mexico pay for it? How he could repeal and replace healthcare his first day in office, and then everyone would have "beautiful" health insurance, and it would be "so easy"? How he would "bomb the sh-t out of ISIS"? How he would tear up the Iran nuclear deal? How he would impose tariffs on China? etc, etc...? Well, he hasn't done any of that. And you are OK with it. Because all those things apparently didn't mean what they sounded like. It was not meant to be taken literally. It was meant to mean something like "I am a great guy and I will do some things", or something like that.

Well, you got him elected, and now he is talking on the international stage. And so the whole world is trying to figure out if they should take him seriously, if he really means what he says. It sounds like (if we are to take his words at face value), he just threatened N. Korea with nuclear war. But are we, or more importantly, is Kim Jung Un, supposed to know that Trump just says stuff out of his a$$ and is not to be taken literally? Are these some more "alternative facts"? No one knows, because apparently words don't matter anymore. So what IS Trump trying to say? Not only does Un need a translator, even we other English speakers, and even members of his own cabinet, are going to need your special translation services for ourselves trying to understand this new Trumpese language.

So yeah, we are on the brink of nuclear war, with a president whose language and speech no one can apparently understand except some uneducated rural whites. Hey, what could go wrong?
 
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LOL

It's interesting to see how kids today view things.

Both are threats.

Might want to reconsider who is butt hurt.
 
LOL

It's interesting to see how kids today view things.

Both are threats.

Might want to reconsider who is butt hurt.
Is there a difference between someone punching you and someone saying they are going to punch you?
 

LOL

"...uneducated rural whites."

Could you work any harder to vaporize your credibility?
 
Is there a difference between someone punching you and someone saying they are going to punch you?

Kennedy and Trump said the same thing. Mess with us and you will suffer the consequences. You seem confused by that. Perhaps it was the method by which the same message was delivered.
 
Is there a difference between someone punching you and someone saying they are going to punch you?

More like: Is there a difference between punching someone back and punching them because they wouldn't shut up?
 
Kennedy and Trump said the same thing. Mess with us and you will suffer the consequences. You seem confused by that. Perhaps it was the method by which the same message was delivered.

Neither of them said "mess with us and suffer the consequences". Kennedy said that if we are attacked we will retaliate. Trump said if they keep making threats we will retaliate. Those are very very different things particularly when we are talking about nuclear weapons.
 

But if you don't look too closely at the actual wording, and you're desperate to defend an increasingly embarrassing president, you can walk away with the impression that they're basically the same thing, mostly. #AltFacts
 
Is there a difference between someone punching you and someone saying they are going to punch you?

NK said we are going to punch you, Trump said I'm gonna F you up if you do.
Does that make it easier to understand?


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Re the bold section

With Trump, people have been told it is not what he says that is what is important it is what in his heart

eg The boarder wall is not actually going to be a wall, just increase security
eg Mexico paying for the wall does not actually mean Mexico will directly and actually pay for the wall, just that it will pay indirectly through other means like tariffs on Mexican goods


Now lets go with the difference between Kennedy's statement and Trumps Statement

Kennedy "any missile launched from Cuba against the United States will be regarded as an attack on the US by the Soviet Union requiring a full retaliatory response by the US on the Soviet Union". Clear concise and you believe he would do just that. Under those conditions the US would retaliate and nuke the USSR


Trumps Fire and Fury speech, is not clear and not concise as to what conditions the US would launch such actions, nor what actions those would be. Just that Trump promised they would be huge the best every military actions the world has ever scene
 
The boomers are the millennials God-gifted generation to their everlasting benefit.

I'm gonna have to disagree with you there. Being that that generation is the power-brokers in control that have us where we are currently at.
 
LOL

It's interesting to see how kids today view things.

Both are threats.

Might want to reconsider who is butt hurt.

So telling some one you will punch them, and actually punching them are the same thing to you?
 
NK said we are going to punch you, Trump said I'm gonna F you up if you do.
Does that make it easier to understand?


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I completely understand what Trump said. I just think it's stupid. Trump doesn't own the lives of the millions of South Koreans that could be killed if he acts recklessly.
 


On what basis did Kennedy risk nuclear war when he blockaded Cuba?

I spent my childhood under a desk at 10am on the last Friday of the month during the school year, listening to air raid sirens blaring through out the city. Signs like the one below were strategically placed through out the city.



Threats come in many forms. Do you think the blockade was a threat?

Both Kennedy and President Trump said the same thing.

You appear to dislike the method President Trump used when echoing the same resolve Kennedy did.
 

How about you focus on responding to posts instead of trying to stretch everything so that you can feel right?
 
When I was a kid in the eighties we'd call each other gay.

"Your shirt is gay."
"Shut up, you're gay."
"That comeback was so gay."
"Your rainbow sticker on your bike with the words 'I like balls in my face' is gay."
"That's gay?"

Only now the word is "snowflake," and the people using it are adults.
 
But if you don't look too closely at the actual wording, and you're desperate to defend an increasingly embarrassing president, you can walk away with the impression that they're basically the same thing, mostly. #AltFacts

LOL

Or if your desperate to embarrassingly attack everything the President says, you can walk away with the impressing a point made actually made sense.
 
LOL

Or if your desperate to embarrassingly attack everything the President says, you can walk away with the impressing a point made actually made sense.

Trump threatened fire and fury like the world has never seen if NK makes any more threats.

Kennedy threatened to respond in kind if the US were attacked.

Is it clear why some people here disagree with your previous assertion yet? Or are you going to drop another 1 line non-response that criticizes the poster without addressing the post? Maybe you can paraphrase both quotes again, just a little vaguer this time, and call them equal.

Now do you have a relevant response or can we move onto the next round of "He Didn't say that! That's not what he meant! He was just joking!"
 

Well, we do have better music.

I am struck by the stylistic difference between those two quotes. Kennedy was measured, rational and credible. Trump sounded like he was talking off the top of his head. Thoughtless bluster is not credible.
 
NK said we are going to punch you, Trump said I'm gonna F you up if you do.
Does that make it easier to understand?


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No trump basically said if you keep telling us you're going to punch us we'll **** you up.
 
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