Sins of the father hypocrisy?

[camlok]

Defend what? Opinions? We have them. You either agree or you don't. We won't change ours.

Meme city.

Why do you consider sticking your fingers in your ears and stamping your feet to be an adult like approach?

 

[Gimmesometruth]

Defend what? Opinions? We have them. You either agree or you don't. We won't change ours.

Well there you are, in the face of rational discussion on the effects, you will hold to your irrational views.

 

[Renae]

Now that's another meme like meme, Renae, meant to aid you in addressing the salient points. You folks really do love your memes/your distractions?

Mach specifically pointed this out to you.

That's not a meme, I live din a developing country where I assure you, I was in the minority. Did you just discover the word "meme" and think it makes you witty?

 

[Renae]

Your lame joke illustrates that you can't and won't even try to understand. It's another meme, Renae.

Google "the long term effects of slavery in america". You won't I know, but it is stunning that a body can believe that all this brutality, all this genocide was wiped away by a US president using Black people as a political weapon.

You whine about meme's and then tell me to google something.

You just killed the Irony meter.

 

[Renae]

I want racism to be nonexistent, I do not "need it", at all. But then this is a weak attempt to divert from your denial of its existence in the US.I'm in denial of whut, exactly?

As that will never happen... there will always be an ism, well at least for the foreseeable future. We can only marginalize those morons to the best of our abilities.
You are in denial of the true state of race in America because you need the race conflict for political gamesmanship. It defines you, controls your destiny. That's sad.

 

[camlok]

Triple like. The highlighted is what so many forget. Heck, according to reports, in some countries it is a privilege to be born male.

I was born a citizen of the United States that regardless of my race or ethnicity gave me a leg up on the huge majority of people of the world.

No one forgets that, least of all the Vietnamese, the Koreans, the Nicaraguans, the Guatemalans, the Cambodians, the hundreds of millions who have been brutalized by the USA, mostly USA men for well over a century.

 

[Lovebug]

As that will never happen... there will always be an ism, well at least for the foreseeable future. We can only marginalize those morons to the best of our abilities.
You are in denial of the true state of race in America because you need the race conflict for political gamesmanship. It defines you, controls your destiny. That's sad.

Lets not forget that within those ...isms is perception. It rather seems that...isms are a dime a dozen if expedient.

 

[camlok]

As that will never happen... there will always be an ism, well at least for the foreseeable future. We can only marginalize those morons to the best of our abilities.
You are in denial of the true state of race in America because you need the race conflict for political gamesmanship. It defines you, controls your destiny. That's sad.

What is sad, Renae, is how you live desperately clinging to your memes.

You still haven't addressed why the German people can be so honest but Americans can't.

 

[Mach]

I don't care about skin color, I care about who you are as a person and what you do with your life. You should try being color blind, it is after all 2017.

The claim of "I'm color blind" is a stereotypical example of not being aware of what white privilege is.

There are so many studies and example of why that's an absurd, outdated notion, I'm surprised you're proud of it. Hell, Colbert mocked it for years on Colbert Report, making fun of ignorant right wing entertainers. You're like the poster child of someone who needs to read more.

One factor that demonstrates this is implicit racial bias:

Bias Isn't Just A Police Problem, It's A Preschool Problem : NPR Ed : NPR
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...whites-are-biased-and-they-dont-even-know-it/

It is very important to note that implicit racial bias is not the same thing as conscious racism. People who harbor implicit biases may not think of themselves as prejudiced, and in fact, might consider prejudice to be abhorrent. They also may not know they even have these biases.

 

[Renae]

I was born a citizen of the United States that regardless of my race or ethnicity gave me a leg up on the huge majority of people of the world.

No one forgets that, least of all the Vietnamese, the Koreans, the Nicaraguans, the Guatemalans, the Cambodians, the hundreds of millions who have been brutalized by the USA, mostly USA men for well over a century.

NO one is stopping you from casting aside your leg up and going forth among the brutalized making up for the unfairness you seem so worried about. People like you amuse me. You claim America is terrible, full of sins... yet you stay here living in the sin because your guilt stops short of actual action.

 

[Renae]

What is sad, Renae, is how you live desperately clinging to your memes.

You still haven't addressed why the German people can be so honest but Americans can't.

I'm not german.

 

[Renae]

The claim of "I'm color blind" is a stereotypical example of not being aware of what white privilege is.

There are so many studies and example of why that's an absurd, outdated notion, I'm surprised you're proud of it. Hell, Colbert mocked it for years on Colbert Report, making fun of ignorant right wing entertainers. You're like the poster child of someone who needs to read more.

One factor that demonstrates this is implicit racial bias:

Bias Isn't Just A Police Problem, It's A Preschool Problem : NPR Ed : NPR
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...whites-are-biased-and-they-dont-even-know-it/

Colbert's a comedian on TV and a bit of a moron... if he's your fount of wisdom no wonder we're having problems communicating.

 

[camlok]

You whine about meme's and then tell me to google something.

I only suggested you google it to illustrate that there wasn't a snowball's chance in hell you were going anywhere near anything that conflicted with your meme run position.

"You just killed the Irony meter."

Another popular American meme.

 

[Gimmesometruth]

As that will never happen... there will always be an ism, well at least for the foreseeable future. We can only marginalize those morons to the best of our abilities.

you keep discussing the actors....while denying their effect.

You are in denial of the true state of race in America

You have not shown that my views on the "state of rac(ism) in America" is faulty in any manner...at all.

because you need the race conflict for political gamesmanship.

It isn't a game, it has real effect still that you keep denying, specifically in regards to economic gains.

It defines you, controls your destiny. That's sad.

Empty rhetoric, a distraction away from your denials of racism's effects in the US today. It is manifest in income levels, it was manifest in Charlottesville.

 

[Mach]

Colbert's a comedian on TV and a bit of a moron... if he's your fount of wisdom no wonder we're having problems communicating.

Still avoiding your failure to educate yourself on the topic.

Once again:
One factor that demonstrates this is implicit racial bias:
Bias Isn't Just A Police Problem, It's A Preschool Problem : NPR Ed : NPR
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-even-know-it/

It is very important to note that implicit racial bias is not the same thing as conscious racism. People who harbor implicit biases may not think of themselves as prejudiced, and in fact, might consider prejudice to be abhorrent. They also may not know they even have these biases.

That's not from Colbert, reading ftw.

 

[Renae]

Still avoiding your failure to educate yourself on the topic.

Once again:
One factor that demonstrates this is implicit racial bias:
Bias Isn't Just A Police Problem, It's A Preschool Problem : NPR Ed : NPR
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-even-know-it/



That's not from Colbert, reading ftw.

You don't agree with me, YOU MUST BE UNEDUCATED!!!

Get out of here with that crap.

 

[camlok]

Colbert's a comedian on TV and a bit of a moron... if he's your fount of wisdom no wonder we're having problems communicating.

There's no problem in communication here, Renae, there's a serious problem with your inability to address facts and the truth.

I've provided the link so you could read on in the heading, "Today’s Race Problem". I think it will likely highlight how right you are.

ARTICLE
An American Tragedy: The legacy of slavery lingers in our cities’ ghettos
Glenn C. LourySunday, March 1, 1998

The United States of America, “a new nation, conceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal,” began as a slave society. What can rightly be called the “original sin” slavery has left an indelible imprint on our nationa’s soul. A terrible price had to be paid, in a tragic, calamitous civil war, before this new democracy could be rid of that most undemocratic institution. But for black Americans the end of slavery was just the beginning of our quest for democratic equality; another century would pass before the nation came fully to embrace that goal. Even now millions of Americans recognizably of African descent languish in societal backwaters. What does this say about our civic culture as we enter a new century?

The eminent Negro man of letters W. E. B. Du Bois predicted in 1903 that the issue of the 20th century would be “the problem of the color line.” He has been proven right. At mid-century the astute Swedish observer of American affairs, Gunnar Myrdal, reiterated the point, declaring the race problem to be our great national dilemma and fretting about the threat it posed to the success of our democratic experiment. Du Bois must have relished the irony of having a statue named Liberty oversee the arrival in New York’s harbor of millions of foreigners, “tempest tossed” and “yearning to breathe free,” even as black Southern peasants–not alien, just profoundly alienated–were kept unfree at the social margins. And Myrdal observed a racist ideology that openly questioned the Negro’s human worth survive our defeat of the Nazis and abate only when the Cold War rivalry made it intolerable that the “leader of the free world” should be seen to preside over a regime of racial subordination.

This sharp contrast between America’s lofty ideals, on the one hand, and the seemingly permanent second-class status of the Negroes, on the other, put the onus on the nation’s political elite to choose the nobility of their civic creed over the comfort of longstanding social arrangements. Ultimately they did so. Viewed in historic and cross-national perspective, the legal and political transformation of American race relations since World War II represents a remarkable achievement, powerfully confirming the virtue of our political institutions. Official segregation, which some southerners as late as 1960 were saying would live forever, is dead. The caste system of social domination enforced with open violence has been eradicated. Whereas two generations ago most Americans were indifferent or hostile to blacks’ demands for equal citizenship rights, now the ideal of equal opportunity is upheld by our laws and universally embraced in our politics. A large and stable black middle class has emerged, and black participation in the economic, political, and cultural life of this country, at every level and in every venue, has expanded impressively. This is good news. In the final years of this traumatic, exhilarating century, it deserves to be celebrated.

https://www.google.ca/search?q=Poli...e..69i57j0.13745j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

 

[Mach]

Defend what? Opinions? We have them. You either agree or you don't. We won't change ours.

That you choose to post your opinion on a debate forum, and not debate it, or defend it in the face of rebuttal, is strange, but that's your call not mine.

Are you use to not having your ideas challenged and not being able to defend them? That may be the root cause.

 

[Renae]

There's no problem in communication here, Renae, there's a serious problem with your inability to address facts and the truth.

I've provided the link so you could read on in the heading, "Today’s Race Problem". I think it will likely highlight how right you are.

Yeah, that coke using woman abuser, he's a real winner that one is.

 

[camlok]

You don't agree with me, YOU MUST BE UNEDUCATED!!!

That's another favorite right wing meme.

 

[Renae]

That you choose to post your opinion on a debate forum, and not debate it, or defend it in the face of rebuttal, is strange, but that's your call not mine.

Are you use to not having your ideas challenged and not being able to defend them? That may be the root cause.

Yes but your view is that any disagreement with your views is born of uneducated ignorance, and only those willfully ignorant or stupid would disagree with you. You've sided with Camlock in this discussion, and well.. I think that's all that needs be said there.

 

[camlok]

Yeah, that coke using woman abuser, he's a real winner that one is.

Huh? From memes to wild accusations. Who is "he"?

 

[Mach]

You don't agree with me, YOU MUST BE UNEDUCATED!!!Get out of here with that crap.

So you know that the fact of implicit bias contradicts the swill you posted, and you are:

1. aware of this but disagree with yourself
2. unaware of it

You tell me, I'm not afraid of education. By all means, educate us Renae, you seem to be a veritable font of wisdom.

 

[Renae]

That's another favorite right wing meme.

 

[Renae]

So you know that the fact of implicit bias contradicts the swill you posted, and you are:

1. aware of this but disagree with yourself
2. unaware of it

You tell me, I'm not afraid of education. By all means, educate us Renae, you seem to be a veritable font of wisdom.

I've tried, I haven't denied racism exists. I haven't denied there are ****s in this world that do bad things based on skin color. I HAVE mocked the concept of "White privilege" and why your only retort has been I am blind and ignorant because I don't agree with you.