Letters: Single-state solution in the Middle East | World news | The GuardianThe proposal by the Israeli right of a single state (Jonathan Freedland, 28 July) is not new. Greater Israel has always been the goal of rightwing Israelis and Zionists. This is just as unacceptable to the Palestinians, and the wider Arab world, as the present situation. The single state proposed would be much the same as it is for Palestinians in Israel today: separate roads for Palestinians and Israelis; Jewish-only towns; the best land taken by the Jewish population; and a political system that ensures a permanent majority of Jews. So no right of return for the Palestinian refugees and no rights for Gaza's citizens in this proposed single state. Palestinians in this new single state would have
Again, what is your point? you bring here a known idea from irrelevant factors in the Israeli society, those who believe in greater Israel has about the same political power as Arab parties in the Knesset, mybe even less, they are as irrelevent as Anarchist groups that demonstrate against the security wall.
The minority of extremists who does believe in the "Greater Israel" do not believe in this: "separate roads for Palestinians and Israelis; Jewish-only towns; the best land taken by the Jewish population; and a political system that ensures a permanent majority of Jews." They believe that the Palestinians should be expeled from the west bank to neighbooring Arab countries
He didn't say that at all. Stop trolling plz.So you're saying that the Arab members of the Knesset only serve as decoration ? or a means to tell the world "see, we even have Arab members in the Knesset" ?
I'm not trolling at all Tashah, he keeps bringing up the fact that I called Israel a "cancer" and a "monster", so how else does he expect me to see my official enemy ?
Can we do things nicely? Or must I put everything in a mod box for you?I'm not trolling at all Tashah, he keeps bringing up the fact that I called Israel a "cancer" and a "monster", so how else does he expect me to see my official enemy ?
Then your getting snippy, here, because he said something about you in the past? How should we perceive that if it's not trolling?
Can we do things nicely? Or must I put everything in a mod box for you?
Then your getting snippy, here, because he said something about you in the past? How should we perceive that if it's not trolling?
Are you saying they are not elected democratically? That elections are fraudulent?He said that the Arab members in teh Knesset had minimal power and I keep reading on this forum that the Arabs even have memebers in teh Knesset. So are they there in form only ? It's a legitimate question sisn't it ?
Are you saying they are not elected democratically? That elections are fraudulent?
Where did I say that ? no, I didn't say that.
Ido said that the Arab members of the Knesset had as little power as the Israelis who believe in greater Israel. he meant to say, very little.
So if they (the Arabs) have very little power in the Knesset, what good is it to have Arabs in the Knesset ? what's the purpose of having them at all ?
Well, disregarding Ido's words for a moment, an Arab member of the Knesset is possessing equal powers to a Jewish member of the Knesset.
There exist no rules that restrict the powers of a Knesset member that comes from a certain race/gender/ethnicity/religion, so obviously such assumption would be wrong.
Now I'm certain that Ido would be happy to explain and elaborate on his words in response to your question the next time he checks up on this thread.
Until then I cannot speak for him or for that which he was trying to say.
Don't like it when you get trolled huh?Where did I say that ? no, I didn't say that.
That's exactly what he was saying and you were well aware of it.Ido said that the Arab members of the Knesset had as little power as the Israelis who believe in greater Israel. he meant to say, very little.
You somehow imagine they were appointed? They obtained their Knesset seats via votes.So if they (the Arabs) have very little power in the Knesset, what good is it to have Arabs in the Knesset ? what's the purpose of having them at all ?
Don't like it when you get trolled huh?
That's exactly what he was saying and you were well aware of it.
You somehow imagine they were appointed? They obtained their Knesset seats via votes.
Moderator's Warning: Enough. Stop the cat-fight now.
First of all I do not recall you calling Israel "cancer" nor bringing it up.
Now as for Arab parties (parties, not members, some of them have Jewish Knesset members as well) in the Knesset which are considered the extreme left of our society they have 11 mandates, If we'll look over to the other extreme side of our political map you will find only 7 mandates who believe in "Greater Israel". Arab parties are not there for show, they legistlate and have a stage to promote their ideas but their political power is not enough in order to promote extreme ideas like revoking Israel's identity as a Jewish state just as the extreme right doesn't have enough power to transfer all of the Palestinians from the west bank to neighbooring countries.
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