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Sinema leaving the Democratic Party and registering as an independent

Chomsky

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Arizona Sen. Kyrsten Sinema is leaving the Democratic Party and registering as a political independent, she told CNN’s Jake Tapper in an exclusive TV interview.

“I’ve registered as an Arizona independent. I know some people might be a little bit surprised by this,
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(CNN) Sinema leaving the Democratic Party

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Surprised? Who's surprised?

She beat Joe Manchin to the punch, it seems. She was quick to grab the key to power, influence, and - of course money. We always knew she was an opportunist, out for herself. Now, she's in the catbird seat. We are looking at the making of a women of great wealth to be.
 
She ran as a progress to take advantage of Democrat machinery and cash. She'll probably just end up Nadering the next contest in AZ, which will give her plenty of that attention she craves probably not another term.
 
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"Let's see you try to primary me now, bitches!"​
 
Mr Person said:
She ran as a progress to take advantage of Democrat machinery and cash. She'll probably just end up Nadering the next contest in AZ, which will give her plenty of that attention she craves probably not another term.
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The thing with Nader is he appears to be a true believer in his cause. This one's in it purely for personal gain.
 
Chomsky said:
(CNN) Sinema leaving the Democratic Party

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Surprised? Who's surprised?

She beat Joe Manchin to the punch, it seems. She was quick to grab the key to power, influence, and - of course money. We always knew she was an opportunist, out for herself. Now, she's in the catbird seat. We are looking at the making of a women of great wealth to be.
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My first reaction was 'who is Sinema'?

My last question is 'does anyone give a shit'? Like we need more headline grabbing moronic egos stomping around like dinosaurs who are in denial about being cashiered out.
 
Fearandloathing said:
My first reaction was 'who is Sinema'?

My last question is 'does anyone give a shit'? Like we need more headline grabbing moronic egos stomping around like dinosaurs who are in denial about being cashiered out.
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A deciding vote Senator in a +1 Senate? You better believe she's important. Hell, her & Manchin held-up huge swaths of the Dem agenda.
 
Taylor said:
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Have you checked her voting record. Righties don't need to be so gleeful. She has voted for a lot of Biden's agenda. She isn't going to caucus with the Repubs. So, why the gloating?

SINEMA’S LANDMARK CHIPS AND SCIENCE ACT
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Democrats secure breakthrough with Kyrsten Sinema on climate bill
In a statement, White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre emphasized that Sinema’s move to become an independent would not impact the Democratic Senate majority and praised her for her work with the Biden administration, especially on infrastructure, same-sex marriage and gun safety.

I hear a LOT of wishful thinking, this Senate will still be 51-49, and Righties will be still be screaming bloody murder the next time she backs a Democratic bill.
 
Taylor said:
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So...it's a preemptive revenge run? Because it's very unlikely she has any chance. She's shat on Ds at opportune moments, but she's also backed a whole lot the GOP raged about.

Not being primaried doesn't mean much if you can't win without one of the two parties' apparatuses.
 
Chomsky said:
A deciding vote Senator in a +1 Senate? You better believe she's important. Hell, her & Manchin held-up huge swaths of the Dem agenda.
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She's still caucusing with Democrats, so it changes little to nothing in Washington. It's Arizona Democrats who'll have to figure out what to do about her.
 
Chomsky said:
A deciding vote Senator in a +1 Senate? You better believe she's important. Hell, her & Manchin held-up huge swaths of the Dem agenda.
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Passed many others. All of them riled up those who think Sinema will not turn sharp Right. It's called wishful thinking.
 
Chomsky said:
A deciding vote Senator in a +1 Senate? You better believe she's important. Hell, her & Manchin held-up huge swaths of the Dem agenda.
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If independents don't count then it was never a +1 senate. Bern and Angus are "independents" also
 
No great loss to the Democrats.
 
Mr Person said:
So...it's a preemptive revenge run? Because it's very unlikely she has any chance. She's shat on Ds at opportune moments, but she's also backed a whole lot the GOP raged about.

Not being primaried doesn't mean much if you can't win without one of the two parties' apparatuses.
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Cardinal said:
She's still caucusing with Democrats, so it changes little to nothing in Washington. It's Arizona Democrats who'll have to figure out what to do about her.
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SNOWFLAKE said:
Passed many others. All of them riled up those who think Sinema will not turn sharp Right. It's called wishful thinking.
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I suspect it's political posturing. It may even be more about AZ politics than Senate Politics, but I'm not well versed in the AZ ground game.
 
Chomsky said:
A deciding vote Senator in a +1 Senate? You better believe she's important. Hell, her & Manchin held-up huge swaths of the Dem agenda.
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She was a deciding vote Senator at 50 / 50 ...........nothing really changes
 
Crovax said:
If independents don't count then it was never a +1 senate. Bern and Angus are "independents" also
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True. But my point was an individual Senator in a +1 situation is always an important thing.
 
Chomsky said:
(CNN) Sinema leaving the Democratic Party

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Surprised? Who's surprised?

She beat Joe Manchin to the punch, it seems. She was quick to grab the key to power, influence, and - of course money. We always knew she was an opportunist, out for herself. Now, she's in the catbird seat. We are looking at the making of a women of great wealth to be.
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She was already an independent, functionally .
 
Chomsky said:
True. But my point was an individual Senator in a +1 situation is always an important thing.
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But unless Sinema has changed any of her positions her votes would be the same?
 
Callen said:
She was a deciding vote Senator at 50 / 50 ...........nothing really changes
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I would like to know her rationale.

I'm thinking as an Indie she can more easily threaten to caucus with the GOP. She needn't formally change party. She can play the middle. It makes sense to do that if you're out for yourself.

But whatever her rationale, I believe this implies she wants everyone to kiss her petulant arse this upcoming Congress.
 
All that $ spent on her for what?
 
Crovax said:
But unless Sinema has changed any of her positions her votes would be the same?
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Perhaps. Depends upon what she gets in the bargain.

I'm wondering if now she can more easily threaten to caucus with the GOP, as a better way to work the middle maximizing her ability to extract personal gain.
 
Chomsky said:
I would like to know her rationale.

I'm thinking as an Indie she can more easily threaten to Caucus with the GOP. She needn't formally change party. She can play the middle. It makes sense to do that if you're out for yourself.

But whatever her rationale, I believe this implies she wants everyone to kiss her petulant arse this upcoming Congress.
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I think it's a lot less complicated. Making this move means she doesn't have to face an inevitable Democratic primary in 2024. She can run as an Independent and dare the Dems to put up a Dem and make 2024 a three party race with two left leaning candidates which would most certainly go the GOP. So embrace her as an Independent or give up a Senate seat to the GOP in 2024. I believe it is that simple.
 
Callen said:
I think it's a lot less complicated. Making this move means she doesn't have to face an inevitable Democratic primary in 2024. She can run as an Independent and dare the Dems to put up a Dem and make 2024 a three party race with two left leaning candidates which would most certainly go the GOP. So embrace her as an Independent or give up a Senate seat to the GOP in 2024. I believe it is that simple.
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I don't know if I'd call it "simple", I didn't see it, but its as good a theory as any.
 
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