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Simple question, are you okay with the GOP overturning the election and crowning Trump president?

independentusa said:
It is pretty simple question. Biden won both the popular vote and the Electoral College vote and there has been no proof of fraud or rigging as the court cases, and even Barr have pointed out. With all of that, if the GOP was able to overturn the election and make Trump president, would that have your approval?
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Definitely. As Democrats approved it when Democrats tried to remove Trump for no reason.
 
Aunt Antifa said:
We definitely need an investigation into Trump demanding the GA SoS create votes for him.
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We need the Attorney General of Georgia to demand election law be followed.
 
independentusa said:
It is pretty simple question. Biden won both the popular vote and the Electoral College vote and there has been no proof of fraud or rigging as the court cases, and even Barr have pointed out. With all of that, if the GOP was able to overturn the election and make Trump president, would that have your approval?
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Do you recall the impeachment proceedings (or the Mueller Report) which were designed to remove Trump from the presidency?:ROFLMAO:
 
EagleFreedom47 said:
First of all, no person should have gone through. The daily character assassination what the media put President Trump through. Put yourself in his shoes. No man walking the face of the earth is 100% percent wrong all the time. There IS a Domestic Enemy within the government for years now. And the head of that evil needs to be cut off. President Trump still has three legal options he can use. And if I were him. I would certainly use one of those options. If there was only one state showing issues with the voting. Than no. But several states have issues. Here in NY, there were 3 counties. By board of elections in the counties. Which was stated on evening news. Problem found with double mail in votes. Using the COVID fear which we never had mail in votes. I went to vote directly. I am 70 and never did I feel not ringing in a new year. 2021 won't be better. To be honest, it has come to drastic measures not to loose our country. Even if it means 1776 all over again. To get rid of the evil (NWO) that has taken over. If Biden and family can do corrupt dealings. Two countries involved. Recently Ukraine exposed Biden crime family. Dealing with Ukraine from 2016 to 2019. Stealing 12 billion dollars from Ukraine people. Felony money laundering. Think of what he will do with us citizens. I have researched things. It was with mail in votes and voting machines creating FRAUD. Speaking of my own living experience. Biden supporters have no idea what they voted for. And how I remember the words in the Oath that I have taken. Protect the United States from Foreign and a Domestic Enemy. And that is the NWO. And needs to be defeated by what ever means that is necessary.
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Welcome Eaglefredom47. Superior post.
 
cabse5 said:
We need the Attorney General of Georgia to demand election law be followed.
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He did. And then the potus called him yesterday and demand the SoS break the law.
 
cabse5 said:
All of the OIG report was based on an investigation that was initiated due to hearsay of the Trump administration.:rolleyes:
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No try again. No political bias was found and the investigation was opened correctly.
 
Maximus Zeebra said:
I'm not an American citizen, but I think you people need to go to the streets and demand justice, in particular in some states, and demand a proper and swift audit of the election, and make sure that ALL legitimate votes are counted and valid on a 1:1 ratio, which means removing any illegitimate vote and make sure these do NOT count. If there are suspicious things showing, I think you need to demand a proper investigation of these.

Whoever is elected after such a process, based on the final audited election results, should be the president.

If there are many illegitimate votes and/or election fraud and/or malfunctioning election systems, I think a new amendment must be added to the constitution to make sure it never happens again.

The only outcome that matters is the truth. All people and parties should stand behind the truth being the most important outcome.
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That is what our courts are for and 90 judges have found the claims of fraud unsubstantiated or outright lies. I don't know about where you live but here simply saying there is fraud is not enough to overturn the will of the people. You have no clue about how well our elections are run.
 
cabse5 said:
THE EVIDENCE THAT WAS CITED TO BEGIN THE INVESTIGATION OF THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN WAS THE STEELE DOSSIER. YOU BET YOUR ASS THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN INVESTIGATION WAS BASED ON HEARSAY.
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Not true again. Read the OIG report it specifically stated the Dossier was not used to initiate the investigation. Over and over you Trumpers lie. It is old and tired.
 
independentusa said:
It is pretty simple question. Biden won both the popular vote and the Electoral College vote and there has been no proof of fraud or rigging as the court cases, and even Barr have pointed out. With all of that, if the GOP was able to overturn the election and make Trump president, would that have your approval?
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Well, it’s not going to happen, but for the sake of your question, no
 
cabse5 said:
THE EVIDENCE THAT WAS CITED TO BEGIN THE INVESTIGATION OF THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN WAS THE STEELE DOSSIER. YOU BET YOUR ASS THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN INVESTIGATION WAS BASED ON HEARSAY.
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The dossier was not used to start any investigation but it was in fact amazingly accurate and its basic premise that Putin was helping Trump to win and he was welcoming the help was proven by both Mueller and the bipartisan Senate report. You need to read them.
 
Aunt Antifa said:
We definitely need an investigation into Trump demanding the GA SoS create votes for him.
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Yes and we need to remember that failed criminal acts are still crimes. Many of the one term mistakes failures are criminal acts. He fails at everything but that does not mean his in not breaking laws.
 
iguanaman said:
Yes and we need to remember that failed criminal acts are still crimes. Many of the one term mistakes failures are criminal acts. He fails at everything but that does not mean his in not breaking laws.
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Every single senator that stands up for Trump’s coup are criminal conspirators.
 
EagleFreedom47 said:
First of all, no person should have gone through. The daily character assassination what the media put President Trump through. Put yourself in his shoes. No man walking the face of the earth is 100% percent wrong all the time. There IS a Domestic Enemy within the government for years now. And the head of that evil needs to be cut off. President Trump still has three legal options he can use. And if I were him. I would certainly use one of those options. If there was only one state showing issues with the voting. Than no. But several states have issues. Here in NY, there were 3 counties. By board of elections in the counties. Which was stated on evening news. Problem found with double mail in votes. Using the COVID fear which we never had mail in votes. I went to vote directly. I am 70 and never did I feel not ringing in a new year. 2021 won't be better. To be honest, it has come to drastic measures not to loose our country. Even if it means 1776 all over again. To get rid of the evil (NWO) that has taken over. If Biden and family can do corrupt dealings. Two countries involved. Recently Ukraine exposed Biden crime family. Dealing with Ukraine from 2016 to 2019. Stealing 12 billion dollars from Ukraine people. Felony money laundering. Think of what he will do with us citizens. I have researched things. It was with mail in votes and voting machines creating FRAUD. Speaking of my own living experience. Biden supporters have no idea what they voted for. And how I remember the words in the Oath that I have taken. Protect the United States from Foreign and a Domestic Enemy. And that is the NWO. And needs to be defeated by what ever means that is necessary.
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Nice, I agree with the poster above (Robertinfremento). Well, to add a little to that. If they had succeeded with their "plan", Hillary Clinton would be in the white house now and 4 more years. Trump stopped that. Just think about it, if Trump had NOT stopped it, two families would have almost had a monopoly(except Obama) on the presidency from 1989 to 2025. Close to 40 years. So it's not preposterous to suggest something very sinister is going on, and that's not even including other high positions those two families have held.

I think if we evaluate reality instead of just accepting it, the proof is all around us. So whatever you want to call it, I think you are right. And well, it gives me some hope to hear that from my elder.

I've known for about 15 years that things just aren't right, and I've looked into all kind of things and paid attention since. Reconciling it with reality is not difficult, but accepting that it might be more real than the reality we are being told is pretty scary still. So I can imagine how difficult it must be to get this thrown in the face, and the instant and strong psychological barriers to just considering the possibility.

I also think you are lucky to have lived in the time you have, as things are accelerating for the worse very fast now. So unless we can turn this around fast, the future is not looking bright at all. And you don't deserve this either, putting this additional burden on you feels a bit unfair as well. In either case, I wish you happy days ahead, and thanks for standing by in the good fight. For my part I think Ephesians 6:12 might offer some insight.
 
iguanaman said:
That is what our courts are for and 90 judges have found the claims of fraud unsubstantiated or outright lies. I don't know about where you live but here simply saying there is fraud is not enough to overturn the will of the people. You have no clue about how well our elections are run.
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This sounds like a mandated phrase commissioned from the telegraph central that subordinates send out automatically.

I've not seen any mentions of this. You would think if what you say is the case, the media would have covered this 24/7, but all I hear is crickets.
 
US&THEM said:
You are serious, which is scary.
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It's no point debating or arguing with a democratic, because if you do you are just a NAZI anyways.

Don't even bother with the democrats until they wake up or you visit them in jail.
 
Maximus Zeebra said:
It's no point debating or arguing with a democratic, because if you do you are just a NAZI anyways.

Don't even bother with the democrats until they wake up or you visit them in jail.
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Trump was impeached because of his actions. No one debates that and even the GOP stated what he did was wrong. The guy doesn’t understand how our govt works and exploits everything for personal gain.
 
Maximus Zeebra said:
We keep hearing this argument. Might it have been sent from the central for the subordinates to send out?
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You keep hearing that accurate description because it’s accurate.
 
Maximus Zeebra said:
We keep hearing this argument. Might it have been sent from the central for the subordinates to send out?
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No we are simply stating what our Constitution says. That the quibbling about the election is over when the states certify their votes and electoral college has voted. The count is 306 for Biden and that makes him our next President. Pence's only job is like the celebrities that open the envelopes at the Academy Awards and read the winners name.
 
independentusa said:
www.justsecurity.org

Reading Between the Votes: 53 Senators Say Trump Guilty on the Facts

"Remember this: A bipartisan majority found that the factual allegations for Trump’s impeachment were proven."
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Wrong again, Even some of the GOP Senators said that trump was guilty, but they did not think it was so serious that trump should be removed from office.
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Yes that is correct a total of 53 US senators found him guilty on the evidence. Several of the GOP Senators even said he was guilty but that it was up to the people to remove him. That is what we did.
 
Well said


Asa Hutchinson, the Republican governor of Arkansas, said Sunday on CBS’ “Face the Nation”: “I think it’s a little bit of a Don Quixote jousting-at-windmills efforts. I think it is designed — certainly it will fail. Joe Biden is our president-elect and he will be confirmed in that capacity."
 
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