Silly Times Demand Silly Questions

[Angel]

If a man blows a woman a kiss in a diner, is it sexual harassment in your fevered opinion?

If a man leers at a woman on a bus, is it sexual harassment in your fevered opinion?

If a man stares at a woman longingly in the workplace, is it sexual harassment in your fevered opinion?

If a man whistles at a woman passing on the street, is it sexual harassment in your fevered opinion?

If a man addresses a waitress as "sweetie," is it sexual harassment in your fevered opinion?

If a man looks a woman up and down while standing on a ticket line, is it sexual harassment in your fevered opinion?

 

[Rexedgar]

“Feed a cold, starve a fever?”

 

[holbritter]

If a man blows a woman a kiss in a diner, is it sexual harassment in your fevered opinion?

If a man leers at a woman on a bus, is it sexual harassment in your fevered opinion?

If a man stares at a woman longingly in the workplace, is it sexual harassment in your fevered opinion?

If a man whistles at a woman passing on the street, is it sexual harassment in your fevered opinion?

If a man addresses a waitress as "sweetie," is it sexual harassment in your fevered opinion?

If a man looks a woman up and down while standing on a ticket line, is it sexual harassment in your fevered opinion?

No, being a complete dick neanderthal is not sexual harassment, in my fevered opinion.

 

[KevinKohler]

An HR department would say that any action or activity that is of a sexual nature that makes someone else uncomfortable is sexual harassment.

Also noted, the sexism, in the OP. Back when I waited tables (when I was a strapping young lad), I got sexually harassed by women a lot, by today's standards. Even now, I have an employee who called guys sweaty, sugar, and babe. Obviously, we made her stop, even though no one complained.


At the end of the day, women don't want to be treated as objects, and if you don't want to get into trouble...do what I do. Pretend your mom is in the room watching and listening.

 

[calamity]

If a man blows a woman a kiss in a diner, is it sexual harassment in your fevered opinion?

If a man leers at a woman on a bus, is it sexual harassment in your fevered opinion?

If a man stares at a woman longingly in the workplace, is it sexual harassment in your fevered opinion?

If a man whistles at a woman passing on the street, is it sexual harassment in your fevered opinion?

If a man addresses a waitress as "sweetie," is it sexual harassment in your fevered opinion?

If a man looks a woman up and down while standing on a ticket line, is it sexual harassment in your fevered opinion?

Only if you continue after being asked not to, in my fevered opinion.

And that includes ignoring non-verbal signals which indicate you should stop bugging her.

 

[Angel]

Only if you continue after being asked not to, in my fevered opinion.

And that includes ignoring non-verbal signals which indicate you should stop bugging her.

Yes, persistence is a necessary condition for any harassment. Many in these silly times we live in forget this.

 

[Angel]

No, being a complete dick neanderthal is not sexual harassment, in my fevered opinion.

If a woman calls a man "a complete dick neanderthal," is it sexual harassment in your fevered opinion?

 

[Angel]

An HR department would say that any action or activity that is of a sexual nature that makes someone else uncomfortable is sexual harassment.
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What does your HR department have to do with these OP examples?

If a man blows a woman a kiss in a diner, is it sexual harassment in your fevered opinion?

If a man leers at a woman on a bus, is it sexual harassment in your fevered opinion?

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If a man whistles at a woman passing on the street, is it sexual harassment in your fevered opinion?

If a man addresses a waitress as "sweetie," is it sexual harassment in your fevered opinion?

If a man looks a woman up and down while standing on a ticket line, is it sexual harassment in your fevered opinion?

 

[Angel]

Silly Times Demand Silly Questions

And Silly Questions, Silly Answers.

 

[holbritter]

If a woman calls a man "a complete dick neanderthal," is it sexual harassment in your fevered opinion?

If you consider disgust and scorn sexual, I guess so, in my unfevered opinion.

 

[KevinKohler]

What does your HR department have to do with these OP examples?

Because your or my opinion doesn't matter.


Now, outside of work? Sexual harassment has to involve some type of actual harassment. None on your list applies, in my opinion.

 

[Angel]

If you consider disgust and scorn sexual, I guess so, in my unfevered opinion.

It's all libido.

 

[Angel]

Because your or my opinion doesn't matter.


Now, outside of work? Sexual harassment has to involve some type of actual harassment. None on your list applies, in my opinion.

I'm afraid I'm not as ready as you to ignore my own moral intuitions in deference to the legal virtuosity of HR bureaucrats, but as you acknowledge, all but one of my examples are set outside the workplace and beyond the authority of HR departments.

But in an earlier post you make note of the "sexism" of the OP questions/examples, and so you appear to distinguish, rightly, between sexism and sexual harassment, and I wonder whether your faith in HR departments extends to their hewing to that distinction in their judgments?

 

[KevinKohler]

I'm afraid I'm not as ready as you to ignore my own moral intuitions in deference to the legal virtuosity of HR bureaucrats, but as you acknowledge, all but one of my examples are set outside the workplace and beyond the authority of HR departments.

But in an earlier post you make note of the "sexism" of the OP questions/examples, and so you appear to distinguish, rightly, between sexism and sexual harassment, and I wonder whether your faith in HR departments extends to their hewing to that distinction in their judgments?

Women absolutely receive deferential treatment. Their accusations carry far more weight. Just look at the Bret Kavinaugh flop.

 

[lurchadams]

If a man blows a woman a kiss in a diner, is it sexual harassment in your fevered opinion?

If a man leers at a woman on a bus, is it sexual harassment in your fevered opinion?

If a man stares at a woman longingly in the workplace, is it sexual harassment in your fevered opinion?

If a man whistles at a woman passing on the street, is it sexual harassment in your fevered opinion?

If a man addresses a waitress as "sweetie," is it sexual harassment in your fevered opinion?

If a man looks a woman up and down while standing on a ticket line, is it sexual harassment in your fevered opinion?

In any of the scenarios you described above the answer is "yes" if the woman you're hitting on expresses discomfort with what you're doing. If you continue the behavior after you're asked to stop then it's harassment.

How many threads like this where right-wing nuts claim they don't know how not to be a dick. So pathetic.

 

[HumblePi]

If a man blows a woman a kiss in a diner, is it sexual harassment in your fevered opinion?

If a man leers at a woman on a bus, is it sexual harassment in your fevered opinion?

If a man stares at a woman longingly in the workplace, is it sexual harassment in your fevered opinion?

If a man whistles at a woman passing on the street, is it sexual harassment in your fevered opinion?

If a man addresses a waitress as "sweetie," is it sexual harassment in your fevered opinion?

If a man looks a woman up and down while standing on a ticket line, is it sexual harassment in your fevered opinion?

no

no

no

no

no

and...no

 

[SDET]

If a man blows a woman a kiss in a diner, is it sexual harassment in your fevered opinion?

If a man leers at a woman on a bus, is it sexual harassment in your fevered opinion?

If a man stares at a woman longingly in the workplace, is it sexual harassment in your fevered opinion?

If a man whistles at a woman passing on the street, is it sexual harassment in your fevered opinion?

If a man addresses a waitress as "sweetie," is it sexual harassment in your fevered opinion?

If a man looks a woman up and down while standing on a ticket line, is it sexual harassment in your fevered opinion?

NO, NO, YES, NO, NO, NO

The single "YES" comes from the idea that you don't defecate where you eat (in other words where you earn your bread).

 

[SDET]

In any of the scenarios you described above the answer is "yes" if the woman you're hitting on expresses discomfort with what you're doing. If you continue the behavior after you're asked to stop then it's harassment.

How many threads like this where right-wing nuts claim they don't know how not to be a dick. So pathetic.

Interesting. It's all driven by a woman's fickle fee-fees. Either actions are prohibited or permitted. We are supposed to be a nation of laws.

 

[Fishking]

If a man blows a woman a kiss in a diner, is it sexual harassment in your fevered opinion?

If a man leers at a woman on a bus, is it sexual harassment in your fevered opinion?

If a man stares at a woman longingly in the workplace, is it sexual harassment in your fevered opinion?

If a man whistles at a woman passing on the street, is it sexual harassment in your fevered opinion?

If a man addresses a waitress as "sweetie," is it sexual harassment in your fevered opinion?

If a man looks a woman up and down while standing on a ticket line, is it sexual harassment in your fevered opinion?

For the most part, yeah. Don't be a douche that leers at women, whistles at random women, or any number of other things that shouldn't be that difficult to not do as a decent human being.

 

[Integrityrespec]

No, being a complete dick neanderthal is not sexual harassment, in my fevered opinion.

Probably no more sexual harassment than a woman wearing, extremely low cut tops, short short and ultra tight skirts and passing too close to some poor guy with too much sway in her walk.

 

[holbritter]

Probably no more sexual harassment than a woman wearing, extremely low cut tops, short short and ultra tight skirts and passing too close to some poor guy with too much sway in her walk.

Agreed.

 

[Angel]

Women absolutely receive deferential treatment. Their accusations carry far more weight. Just look at the Bret Kavinaugh flop.

Welcome to Millennial America, the Land of Endless Allegations.

 

[Angel]

In any of the scenarios you described above the answer is "yes" if the woman you're hitting on expresses discomfort with what you're doing. If you continue the behavior after you're asked to stop then it's harassment.
...

no

no

no

no

no

and...no

"Sexual harassment," like beauty proverbially, seems to be located in the eye of the beholder. A dangerous site for legal consequences.



An interesting semantic sidebar

How many threads like this where right-wing nuts claim they don't know how not to be a dick. So pathetic.

How do we account for the discrepancy? One may use the slang term for the male genital organ to characterize a man given to certain behavior, but one may not -- on pain of severe recrimination or censorship -- use the slang term for the female genitals to characterize a woman given to certain behavior. How is this double standard rationalized by those subscribing to the double standard?

 

[Angel]

For the most part, yeah. Don't be a douche that leers at women, whistles at random women, or any number of other things that shouldn't be that difficult to not do as a decent human being.

Social etiquette as a matter of law? You're comfortable with that?

 

[lurchadams]

Interesting. It's all driven by a woman's fickle fee-fees. Either actions are prohibited or permitted. We are supposed to be a nation of laws.

You make no sense. If someone weaker than you requests you cease a behavior and you refuse, you're a bully - end of story.

Not sure why this concept is so tough for you, friend.