Shutting Down Freeways (the 101)?

[Bodi]

MSN

Utter bullshit. Literally millions of people having their lives disrupted because of these treasonous sons of bitches... they should all be arrested, and immigration status checked.


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[Phys251]

MSN

Utter bullshit. Literally millions of people having their lives disrupted because of these treasonous sons of bitches... they should all be arrested, and immigration status checked.


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Interesting. You seem more concerned with civilians who are being inconvenienced by the protestors than the civilians literally targeted by the feds.

Though I am not a fan of shutting down freeways, it is an act of civil disobedience, and the protestors have rights that you seem to ignore.

 

[Bodi]

Interesting. You seem more concerned with civilians who are being inconvenienced by the protestors than the civilians literally targeted by the feds.

Correct. I value the lives of law abiding citizens trying to live their lives than the quasi-terrorists supporting illegal immigrants.

Look, CA is a disaster. Can't arrest people stealing under $1,000, drugs done in the streets, and defecating... the problem for many, and you apparently, is that laws were not enforced for the past 25 years... and now they are and people are acting like victims. Those committing crimes ARE CRIMINALS, and ICE ain't going nowhere. Just listened to a huge interview with the head of ICE on KFI 650am. Also, lots of these arrests are done when authorities are looking into other things, like tax evasion of companies, hiring problems, etc... and then there are all these Illegal immigrants, which shows the illegality of the business.

Though I am not a fan of shutting down freeways, it is an act of civil disobedience, and the protestors have rights that you seem to ignore.

They do not have a right to protest and shut down freeways. They are also coming armed to fight police. The police were overwhelmed. Fighting cops is not a sign of being a good immigrant or citizen.

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[Phys251]

Correct. I value the lives of law abiding citizens trying to live their lives than the quasi-terrorists supporting illegal immigrants.

Look, CA is a disaster. Can't arrest people stealing under $1,000, drugs done in the streets, and defecating... the problem for many, and you apparently, is that laws were not enforced for the past 25 years... and now they are and people are acting like victims. Those committing crimes ARE CRIMINALS, and ICE ain't going nowhere. Just listened to a huge interview with the head of ICE on KFI 650am. Also, lots of these arrests are done when authorities are looking into other things, like tax evasion of companies, hiring problems, etc... and then there are all these Illegal immigrants, which shows the illegality of the business.

Ah, so you get your talking points from AM radio. That explains a lot.

They do not have a right to protest and shut down freeways. They are also coming armed to fight police. The police were overwhelmed. Fighting cops is not a sign of being a good immigrant or citizen.

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Very few if any are doing that. For those who might be, isn't that what 2A is for?

 

[Bodi]

Ah, so you get your talking points from AM radio. That explains a lot.

Some. You seem to get all of yours from Clowns.

...and since your retort is an insult attempt instead of an actual argument, we are about done here.

Very few if any are doing that. For those who might be, isn't that what 2A is for?

Blocking of traffic by protestors is neither legal nor a new practice. The act of blocking traffic is one of civil disobedience.

Is it Legal to Block Traffic While Protesting? | H&P Law

The Supreme Court has held that the government has the authority to place reasonable restrictions on the time, place, and manner (TPM) of protesting.

courtroomproven.com

 

[Simon W. Moon]

Utter bullshit. Literally millions of people having their lives disrupted because of these treasonous sons of bitches... they should all be arrested, and immigration status checked.,

get a load of the foreigner erroneously calling Americans treasonous

hard to take your words seriously when you screw up your accusations that badly

try again?

 

[Simon W. Moon]

Look, CA is a disaster.

When was you last visit?

 

[Phys251]

Some. You seem to get all of yours from Clowns.

...and since your retort is an insult attempt instead of an actual argument, we are about done here.

Admitting that you get your talking points from AM radio is a key admission.

Blocking of traffic by protestors is neither legal nor a new practice. The act of blocking traffic is one of civil disobedience.

Is it Legal to Block Traffic While Protesting? | H&P Law

The Supreme Court has held that the government has the authority to place reasonable restrictions on the time, place, and manner (TPM) of protesting.

courtroomproven.com

Yes, I am aware. People practicing disobedience have rights, too. Unless you support what happened on the Edmund Pettus Bridge?

(If you don't know the story, go look it up.)

 

[Bodi]

get a load of the foreigner erroneously calling Americans treasonous

hard to take your words seriously when you screw up your accusations that badly

try again?

What foreigner are you talking about?


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[Bodi]

When was you last visit?

About 4 months ago.

I am there every year often for over a month.

Why is that relevant?

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[Simon W. Moon]

What foreigner are you talking about?


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my bad I thought you were from NZ

get a load of the American erroneously calling Americans treasonous​

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hard to take your words seriously when you screw up your accusations that badly​

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try again?​

 

[Bodi]

Don't be too hard on yourself.

Admitting that you get your talking points from AM radio is a key admission.

Hearing an interview is a key admission of what?

Yes, I am aware. People practicing disobedience have rights, too

Not blocking traffic without a permit.

Look it up. ****, look up something... and learn.

. Unless you support what happened on the Edmund Pettus Bridge?

(If you don't know the story, go look it up.)

Yeah, know it. LOL

 

[Simon W. Moon]

Why is that relevant?.

You made a statement of opinion.

It's fair to inquire as to the quality of your opinion, in this case in re actual experience in CA

 

[Bodi]

my bad I thought you were from NZ

get a load of the American erroneously calling Americans treasonous​

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hard to take your words seriously when you screw up your accusations that badly​

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try again?​

What did I screw up?


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[Simon W. Moon]

What did I screw up?.

their actions are not even in the same area code as treason

How do you not know that?

 

[Bodi]

You made a statement of opinion.

It's fair to inquire as to the quality of your opinion, in this case in re actual experience in CA

I also lived in CA for 30 years. I also have friends and family that I talk to most days there. Do I qualify as relevant to you?

I assume that you never talk about Russia/Ukraine then? Or Gaza? Or Orcas?

I assume you live in CA?


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[Bodi]

their actions are not even in the same area code as treason

How do you not know that?

I doubt they are son's of bitches either... but I don't see you crying about that statement.




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[Phys251]

Don't be too hard on yourself.



Hearing an interview is a key admission of what?



Not blocking traffic without a permit.

Look it up. ****, look up something... and learn.



Yeah, know it. LOL

Whose side would you have been on with the Edmund Pettus Bridge?

 

[Bodi]

Whose side would you have been on with the Edmund Pettus Bridge?

This thread is about the illegality of shutting down a freeway and disrupting millions of people's day... not the morality behind a protest.

And comparing illegal immigrants violence about not being allowed to continue to break a law versus the Civil Rights of American Citizens peacefully protesting is laughably stupid... but here you are doing it anyway.

*shrug*

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[Phys251]

This thread is about the illegality of shutting down a freeway and disrupting millions of people's day... not the morality behind a protest.

And comparing illegal immigrants violence about not being allowed to continue to break a law versus the Civil Rights of American Citizens peacefully protesting is laughably stupid... but here you are doing it anyway.

*shrug*

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MLK, Jr. and other civil rights activists blocked the Edmund Pettus Bridge. That was civil disobedience. Did the authorities have the right to beat them within an inch of their lives?

 

[Simon W. Moon]

I doubt they are son's of bitches either... but I don't see you crying about that statement..

I thought that was common knowledge that SOB is almost always puffery and an opinion.

You cannot be sued for calling someone an SOB any more than you can be sued for saying a product is your favorite.

You can be sued for falsely accusing someone of specific defamatory behavior, like a crime.

 

[Simon W. Moon]

I also lived in CA for 30 years. I also have friends and family that I talk to most days there. Do I qualify as relevant to you?

does it matter?

I assume that you never talk about Russia/Ukraine then? Or Gaza? Or Orcas?

Assume away.

I occasionally try to refrain from making statements which rely on my personal knowledge or experience when there is something better available

I assume you live in CA?.

Assume away.

I've never said so.

 

[Bodi]

MLK, Jr. and other civil rights activists blocked the Edmund Pettus Bridge.

Correct.

That was civil disobedience.

Correct.

Did the authorities have the right to beat them within an inch of their lives?

No.



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[Phys251]

Correct.



Correct.



No.



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Then you understand that people practicing civil disobedience have rights. Now apply that to the LA freeway blockers and you're all set!

 

[Bodi]

does it matter?

Apparently to you location matters... are you changing your mind now or are there exceptions? You seemed to want to call me out and now you are kinds backing down. Did I make your point seem silly?

Assume away.

I occasionally try to refrain from making statements which rely on my personal knowledge or experience when there is something better available

But even though you have never been to Gaza you are free to comment about it? Kinda a double standard, is it not?

Assume away.

I've never said so.

Do you live in California?


This "debate" is just starting to get stupid. LOOL
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