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Should these parents get their kid back?

Should these parents get their kid back?


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I say yes.

It is really only adults that are making a big deal out of. Some children who have gone through this before can change to whom they get attached to.

They are far more resilient than adults think, and it is really the adults insecurities that have led them to erroneous and hasty over emotional conclusions.

And the children's interests should never be based on feelings.

I whole heartedly support returning the child to the parents.

Otherwise, well....

Might as well stop pretending that we care about fairness under the law.
 
I don't believe what I am reading...

The child — whose name and gender have not been revealed — was initially put into foster care, but while the criminal case was ongoing, a family court ruled that it should be adopted.

How could a court, with the issue still in doubt, authorize an adoption? Is that how the system works in the U.K.?

Well, I'd say that the parent's having been cleared of charges, should get their child back. But since I am no expert on English law...who knows what their rights are over there.
 
no

the paramount interest is the wellbeing of the kid

that trumps the birth parents' rights
 
no

the paramount interest is the wellbeing of the kid

that trumps the birth parents' rights

You understand the "not guilty" part right?
 
You understand the "not guilty" part right?

yep
but what is more significant is the wellbeing of that child
severing him from his adoptive parents would be worse than denying custody to the deemed not-guilty birth parents
 
IMO, it is within a child's best interest to be with their biological parents, whenever possible.


I'm a parent. And I can tell you, being around kids all the time ( I now coach a soccer team.....it's awful), that I don't care NEARLY as much about other peoples kids as I do my own. That's just a simple fact.

These parents were cleared of any crime. They clearly care for their offspring. Sorry to the adopted parents, but.....to the biological parents go the spoils, in this case, IMO.
 

I'm with you. I don't understand why the baby wasn't put into foster/temporary care while the investigation was ongoing.
 

Family courts, even in the U.S. can and have done these things before.
The new status quo has been set and disrupting the childs life, the only life it's known, is not in the best interests of him/her.

That's the family court perspective.
Additionally, this is how non custodial parents get little custody.
When they leave the primary residence before visitation is established by a judge, that sets a new status quo for the adults/children.

Family courts are not necessarily interested in justice of all parties involved.
 
In a perfect world yes, but I am not sure it is going to be possible. The child is adopted and has 2 parents and it may not be in his best interest to be ripped from the only home and parents he knows.
 
Of course they should get their child back. It was wrong for the court to have adopted the child out in the first place. To deny these parents their right is wrong and imo is tyrannical.
 
These are good questions. *IF* the system truly has the best interest of the kid(s) at heart then they wouldn't take so long before they come to a conclusion. They would move faster so that the kid could either be severed from the parent(s) if they're guilty, or reunited if innocent. That's *IF* the kid(s) interests are indeed paramount. JMO
 
yep
but what is more significant is the wellbeing of that child
severing him from his adoptive parents would be worse than denying custody to the deemed not-guilty birth parents

I agree with you, which is why I voted No.
 
Of course they should get their child back. It was wrong for the court to have adopted the child out in the first place. To deny these parents their right is wrong and imo is tyrannical.

I doubt it's that cut-and-dried. This child was adopted through the courts, completely legally. They went through the proper channels and trusted they had irrevocably adopted a baby. Imagine the chilling effect it would have on their court system and, more importantly, their adoption system if the court steps up and says, "Oops."
 

Generic response: Courts are made up of people, and people sometimes make mistakes. To have a court/judicial system that never tries to correct mistakes becomes a tyrannical court/justice system.
 

like they did with the biological parents.

Truth is, they never should have put that child up for adoption until the mess was sorted out.

That would have avoided the whole Oops situation.
 
The kid goes home to it's biological parents...period...end of story

if both sets of adults are mature about this and place the best interests of the child first, this could be done in an amicable way so that all four parents are involved in the child life in various ways

if they can't do that for this child then it is a sad situation indeed, this is not time to be emotionally limited and selfish

kids are resilient as long as they feel loved, the child will adjust IF the placement is done correctly
 

Imagine the chilling effect it would have on their court system and, more importantly, their adoption system if the court does NOT step up and says, "Oops."

it means they can remove your child and adopt them out whether or not you are guilty...that is terrifying
 

A child who gets rickets and has a vitamin deficiency at six-weeks old is, in all probability, being starved. A finding of not guilty does not mean innocent.
 
That's a much better way of phrasing what I said and meant.
 
A child who gets rickets and has a vitamin deficiency at six-weeks old is, in all probability, being starved. A finding of not guilty does not mean innocent.
It does not not mean that, either. We don't allow for "innocent" as an option. Hence, the literal wording of the verdict cannot necessarily be relied upon.

Note: This is Britain, and I presume they are the same as us in that regard, considering that so much of our legal system is based on their's.
 
A child who gets rickets and has a vitamin deficiency at six-weeks old is, in all probability, being starved. A finding of not guilty does not mean innocent.

If the child was being starved there should have been obvious signs of that and "failure to thrive" would have been a part of the court case...that was not mentioned

also just to add, I know of a couple whose baby died of "failure to thrive" it was later discovered via autopsy that the baby had a condition that had been undetected and just could not correctly process nutrient...it does happen...to judge this poor couple and take their child away is a terrible thing to do
 

I finding of not guilty simply means that the state did not prove its case.

We're so black-white when we read stories like this. It's the only way to be, of course, because we only know what we know. But, in this case, because I feel so much empathy for the couple who raised this baby, I find myself looking for greys.

How DOES a normal baby (assumption) get a Vitamin D deficiency? Rickets, for heaven's sake? They may have simply tried them on the wrong charges.
 
If the child was being starved there should have been obvious signs of that and "failure to thrive" would have been a part of the court case...that was not mentioned

Yeah, like you read the court case. I have to laugh.

Edit -- and there were obvious signs of that . . . A vitamin deficiency and RICKETS, for heaven's sake.
 
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