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Should the US be annexed by or join Canada as their 14th province/territory ? (1 Viewer)

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Mycroft said:
Right. "breaking the law"

Only in Canada, where there is no right to free speech and where the government can freeze bank accounts.

Like I said...the US has nothing to gain by becoming part of Canada.
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What would you call a multiple weeks long illegal occupation of a city center causing local business's to shut down, pooping in shop doorways, pizzing on the unknown soldier's tomb and harassing locals with air horns blowing at 2AM. The blocking of three points of border entry in violation of many laws.

Your country would have had the National Guard show up and shoot three or four of them. Oh wait,. . been there done that, haven't y'all?

Once again:

Freedoms ranked by country Argentina is ranked higher than the U.S.

Another not so hot Canada scores 97 out of 100 - U.S. in the low 80's

An interesting one from right wing Heritage Foundation: Economic freedoms I found the tax burden upon citizens between countries very interesting.

Like you said the U.S. has nothing to gain by becoming part of Canada except a lot more freedoms across the board. (y)
 
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Brusan said:
What would you call a multiple weeks long illegal occupation of a city center causing local business's to shut down, pooping in shop doorways, pizzing on the unknown soldier's tomb and harassing locals with air horns blowing at 2AM. The blocking of three points of border entry in violation of many laws.

Your country would have had the National Guard show up and shoot three or four of them. Oh wait,. . been there done that, haven't y'all?

Once again:

Freedoms ranked by country Argentina is ranked higher than the U.S.

Another not so hot Canada scores 97 out of 100 - U.S. in the low 80's

An interesting one from right wing Heritage Foundation: Economic freedoms I found the tax burden upon citizens between countries very interesting.

Like you said the U.S. has nothing to gain by becoming part of Canada except a lot more freedoms across the board. (y)
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Freedoms? Ah no.. the opposite. Higher taxes is not more freedom. More speech restriction, are not freedoms.
 
justoneman said:
Freedoms? Ah no.. the opposite. Higher taxes is not more freedom. More speech restriction, are not freedoms.
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This in spite of the tax burden when compared is within a hair of each other with it being higher for the U.S.

This in spite of all agencies and orgs. tasked, and having the creds, to measure actual freedoms placing Canada ABOVE the U.S.

Links: Economic freedoms Scroll to find the relative tax burdens on both countries Canada's is LOWER.

Press freedoms compared: Freedom of the Press Canada scores as a straight up democracy while the U.S. scores as "A PROBLEMATIC democracy"

Individual freedoms compared: Actual Freedoms Canada scores 97 while the U.S. scores low 80's

It's not looking good for your fake meme, is it?
 
Brusan said:
This in spite of the tax burden when compared is within a hair of each other

This in spite of all agencies and orgs. tasked, and having the creds, to measure actual freedoms placing Canada ABOVE the U.S.

Links: Economic freedoms Scroll to find the relative tax burdens on both countries Canada's is LOWER.

Press freedoms compared: Freedom of the Press Canada scores as a straight up democracy while the U.S. scores as "A PROBLEMATIC democracy"

Individual freedoms compared: Actual Freedoms Canada scores 97 while the U.S. scores low 80's

It's not looking good for your fake meme, is it?
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ouch. please Canada invade my state.

are you gonna come, or do we have to secede first?
 
Brusan said:
This in spite of the tax burden when compared is within a hair of each other with it being higher for the U.S.

This in spite of all agencies and orgs. tasked, and having the creds, to measure actual freedoms placing Canada ABOVE the U.S.

Links: Economic freedoms Scroll to find the relative tax burdens on both countries Canada's is LOWER.

Press freedoms compared: Freedom of the Press Canada scores as a straight up democracy while the U.S. scores as "A PROBLEMATIC democracy"

Individual freedoms compared: Actual Freedoms Canada scores 97 while the U.S. scores low 80's

It's not looking good for your fake meme, is it?
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An average tax bracket comparison for someone making just over $100,000 in the US is 24% . In Canada it's 26% I do not care what various groups rate things I do not care about how journalists rate things.
 
justoneman said:
An average tax bracket comparison for someone making just over $100,000 in the US is 24% . In Canada it's 26% I do not care what various groups rate things I do not care about how journalists rate things.
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Of course you don't. Inconvenient facts don't fit your indoctrinated memes. Tax burden compared has to include what you get BACK for your taxes.

You fudged the figure to show the bracket ABOVE $111K. At your figure of 4100,000 the tax is pegged at 20.5%
Tax bracket (all amounts in CAD)Tax rate
Up to $55,86715%
More than $55,867 up to $111,73320.5%
More than $111,733 up to $173,20526%
More than $173,205 up to $246,75229%
Over $246,75233%

For that 20% every Canadian gets cradle to grave heath care with no Dr's fees, no copays, no deductibles and no denials. What do you get for your taxes? ;)

The average monthly cost of health insurance in the USA ranges from approximately $495 for a bronze plan to $1,166 for a platinum plan, according to Forbes. For an individual, the average annual cost is about $7,739, and for a family, it's around $22,221, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation.
 
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Brusan said:
Of course you don't. Inconvenient facts don't fit your indoctrinated memes. Tax burden compared has to include what you get BACK for your taxes.

You fudged the figure to show the bracket ABOVE $111K. At your figure of 4100,000 the tax is pegged at 20.5%
Tax bracket (all amounts in CAD)Tax rate
Up to $55,86715%
More than $55,867 up to $111,73320.5%
More than $111,733 up to $173,20526%
More than $173,205 up to $246,75229%
Over $246,75233%

For that 20% every Canadian gets cradle to grave heath care with no Dr's fees, no copays, no deductibles and no denials. What do you get for your taxes? ;)

The average monthly cost of health insurance in the USA ranges from approximately $495 for a bronze plan to $1,166 for a platinum plan, according to Forbes. For an individual, the average annual cost is about $7,739, and for a family, it's around $22,221, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation.
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thankfully, under the Obama health care plan, if you make under 40k as a family or person, health care really is affordable per month. however it still has deductibles; yeah it's a night mare for many. best to not get sick and pray.

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Brusan said:
Of course you don't. Inconvenient facts don't fit your indoctrinated memes. Tax burden compared has to include what you get BACK for your taxes.

You fudged the figure to show the bracket ABOVE $111K. At your figure of 4100,000 the tax is pegged at 20.5%
Tax bracket (all amounts in CAD)Tax rate
Up to $55,86715%
More than $55,867 up to $111,73320.5%
More than $111,733 up to $173,20526%
More than $173,205 up to $246,75229%
Over $246,75233%

For that 20% every Canadian gets cradle to grave heath care with no Dr's fees, no copays, no deductibles and no denials. What do you get for your taxes? ;)

The average monthly cost of health insurance in the USA ranges from approximately $495 for a bronze plan to $1,166 for a platinum plan, according to Forbes. For an individual, the average annual cost is about $7,739, and for a family, it's around $22,221, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation.
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You have a chart with Canadian dollars. $110,000 US equals 154,000 Canadian. So it gets worse for you.

If you make 90,000 in the US the rate is 20% That equals 126,000 Canada. Their rate for that is 26% so that is a full 6% more of a tax rate in Canada. That is not freedom.
 
Allan said:
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It was supposed to be funny. You guys have mountains and forests... and some plains. Nothing like the Deserts in Arizona or California.

Anyway... I don't think it was that funny now.

😂

dfdsa
 
It would be better for the US to join Canada than vice versa, assuming that the main distinction is which Constitution is better-suited to govern the combined nation. The Canadian system is better because it's a parliamentary democracy.

I don't think such a union would be feasible though. It's hard to see how either country would benefit from it, when they can't even coordinate on lesser forms of union, such as free movement areas, customs unions, or monetary unions.
 
justoneman said:
That is not freedom.
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Y'all wouldn't know freedom if it poked you in the butt.

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Freedom Index by Country 2025

worldpopulationreview.com worldpopulationreview.com
 
justoneman said:
Finland, Norway and Sweden all have insane income tax rates. Not freedom at all.
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Your tax rates aren't much different than other developed countries. You just get a lot less bang for your buck.
 
justoneman said:
You have a chart with Canadian dollars. $110,000 US equals 154,000 Canadian. So it gets worse for you.

If you make 90,000 in the US the rate is 20% That equals 126,000 Canada. Their rate for that is 26% so that is a full 6% more of a tax rate in Canada. That is not freedom.
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Oh my, you can't be serious; you actually factored in the exchange rate of the two currencies? 😜 You somehow think that is relevant to a discussion about individual tax burdens of two separate countries?

I'm frankly flummoxed as to how to educate someone from scratch about the purchasing powers of a currency singularly related to the country of that currency's origin. So too are the relevant tax burdens when being compared.
 
Bodi said:
Looks like we are doing the Winning now!!!
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For all intents and purposes; all western democracies are doing better than the U.S. in terms of individual, economic and press freedoms. They have been for years now.

Americans fail to consider what happens to their ratings when they elect an autocrat that completely sidesteps their legislative process and ignores their constitutional protections by use of executive orders and declaring a fake emergency to exact tariffs.

They are in complete denial of how their ratings tanked with Trump's first term nonsense and gave him another shot at ruining their country.
 
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