alphacat said:Now that the Cold War is over, I wondered what benefit, on balance, accrued to the U.S. for being in NATO. It seems to me most of our allies have little military ability and less inclination to use it. In addition, it seems all we are doing is providing a subsidy for the european nanny state.
Comrade Brian said:The US should feel guilty of what its done to Latin America they ****ed it for a long time, and now when they're trying to free themselves from US Imperialism, the media does nothing but criticize the countries.
superskippy said:Well you guy's did orchestrate a bloody,bloody war in Niceragua, though you also got Panamanian Indipendance, and pumped millions into Central and South America and kept Europe from reclaiming land as colleteral from South American and Latin American countries by default forgiving their debt. South America was doing quite well until Cold War struggles began ripping into it. As it has ended America is still the number one aid contributer to South America and Latin America and South America and Latin America's and South America's number one trade partner.
You did not **** it up, but you did some really bad thing's during the Cold War, but you also did some great thing's before the Cold War, and after it, as well as a slight amount during it.
superskippy said:South America was doing quite well until Cold War struggles? I think not. There wasn't a single democracy in S.A. before the Cold War. There was one in Central America.....and a so-so one in Mexico. Today every country in the Americas, except Cuba is a democracy.
Of course there were, what do you think Siman Bolivar's war of liberation against the Europeon's was all about? Bolivia, Argentina, Columbia, Peru, almost all of the S.A. became a democracy or republic of sorts. Who do you think Teddy Roosevelt dickered with for Columbia to leave Panema, the elected Columbian President. Cuba was a democracy for a long time after the American's withdrew. The same goes for Central America.
The U.S. made mistakes in the Americas during the Cold War, but then again look at the forces brewing during that time: The Cuban Revolution and Cuban military adventurism in Central and South America, financed by the Soviet Union.....and guerrillas in almost every country.From the Bogotazo in Colombia in 1948 (in which Fidel Castro participated as a foreign instigator) until the early today, Latin America has been besieged by marxist guerrillas. You are going to make mistakes when you have to deal with groups such as the M-19, Shining Path, ELN, the F.A.R.C., Tupac Amaru, the Sandinistas, FMLN, etc...Colombia has been in perpetual state of war with the guerrillas for more than half a century. Until recently, the FARC (a marxist guerrilla) controlled...unopposed....a territory the size of Switzerland.
Exactly which is why I'm not blaiming you it was a battleground and screwup's along with terrible decisions occured. But so did great idea's and decisions.
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