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Apparently not.
Consider the Middle East (Iraq, Iran, etc.) I don't think for a second that the majority of people in the world give a crap about those people trying so desperately to remove themselves from the gene pool. For the "West" (or all the others not in the ME), it's all about the energy found in those regions the world needs right now to survive and feed itself. They/We, are perfectly willing to pay good money for those energy products, and the people can wipe their butts with it, or whatever they want to do. However, screw with that supply, and that threatens the people of the world, so get ready to be pounded into dust. It's all pretty simple.
Once the world has transitioned farther from the basic energy supplies the ME has, the people will be left to eliminate themselves from the earth, one battle rooted in ancient insults after another.
No. Don't release it. I want results and I have no interest in how they are achieved. The last thing anyone needs is a bunch of whiners complaining. Good, bad, or indifferent, there are some things I don't need to know. I'm perfectly satisfied to leave the "how" to the experts.
Yes, it does.
I saw a news blurb yesterday that a couple of detainees were being released after 12 years.
I've heard for years that Guantanamo holds the worst of the worst terrorists.
These alleged terrorists were held, never charged then released after TWELVE YEARS.
Torture is used to find out if the person even did anything wrong in the first place. We're a first world country that should be respecting human rights. There was no trial and torture of human beings that they were too lazy to convict. You may want that done in your name but I don't.
And some of the people sent to Guantanamo might have actually been innocent people wrongly imprisioned.
If the people of Middle East had any sense, they would do everything in their power to make sure the oil stays underground.
Let's not get melodramatic about torture. Considering the ramifications, I don't think simple innocents are being grabbed in the middle of the night and tortured.
As such, I really have no way of responding to your post.
How about this?
UK troops reported the USA troops for torturing..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1Jp-IXu93M
Or maybe some of you would rather not watch this??
And some of the people sent to Guantanamo might have actually been innocent people wrongly imprisioned.
They/We, are perfectly willing to pay good money for those energy products, and the people can wipe their butts with it, or whatever they want to do. However, screw with that supply, and that threatens the people of the world, so get ready to be pounded into dust. It's all pretty simple.
Once the world has transitioned farther from the basic energy supplies the ME has, the people will be left to eliminate themselves from the earth, one battle rooted in ancient insults after another.
That's cute, but doesn't apply. Pretty hypocritical for a hard core liberal to play that card.
Let's not get melodramatic about torture. Considering the ramifications, I don't think simple innocents are being grabbed in the middle of the night and tortured....
Two ways:
1) cowardice
and/or 2) the ends justify the means.
If there's real evidence that they're guilty of something then a trial should be open a shut. I don't think that our government should be torturing people that by international human rights standards are innocent until proven guilty. It's cowardly and lazy.
I have absolutely no idea what your point is. I already said I'm against torture.
If there's real evidence that they're guilty of something then a trial should be open a shut. I don't think that our government should be torturing people that by international human rights standards are innocent until proven guilty. It's cowardly and lazy.
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I agree with this.
However, most ME villains are more than happy to sell their oil.
Sadaam and Qaddafi were prime examples.
How does China manage to get their oil without engaging in endless ME warfare?
I'm not happy about this dystopian future for the ME, but for the USA's sake, I hope you are right.
Does domination..humiliation...and maybe eventual death..meted out on helpless prisoners..nude..abused..Justify the means!!
Diane Feinstein and the Democrats are releasing the Torture Report this week, they are saying. They meaning the Demos, Feinstein, and the MS Media.
Foreign governments and U.S. intelligence agencies are predicting that the release of a Senate report examining the use of torture by the CIA will cause "violence and deaths" abroad. BO is backing the release of this report. Since he came out and stated we tortured some folks. Then other countries Intel services stated this will cause more violence and death to take place. This was all reported back to BO. Yet he and the Democrats are all for it.
The Republicans are disputing this report and will come out with their own report. Feinstein said she would go ahead with the release. Even after Kerry asked her to hold off with the timing.
What say ye?
Does domination..humiliation...and maybe eventual death..meted out on helpless prisoners..nude..abused..Justify the means!!
Did I read that $40 million dollars were spent on this investigation? The Dems may not have spoken to anyone involved, but someone did.
Let's read it to see where we really are. How low can you go and still think that you're the greatest? It's high time that we cleaned the CIA closet.
Any person that spends the better part of their day torturing other people really does not need to live anymore. We don't need those guys in our country.
Oh noes! It will make us be attacked by our sworn enemies. Like they aren't hell bent on that already.
If your actions are so cowardly that you're thrown under the bus by the world knowing about them, you deserve everything you get. Don't like people getting upset that you tortured people? Don't torture people.
Of course. All the above is true. However, there are exceptions where expediency is critical. I have no problem with those very rare but expedient circumstances being met with ends that justify the means.
I don't think any American can accept the use of torture.
How can American values justify torture.
There are Americans who justify death in the name of choice, so this false value thing you're attempting to apply to torture doesn't really hold true.
American values are such that there are people willing to die to protect them, and to protect those who want to aspire to the same opportunities those values represent.
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