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They militia did nothing illegal, being armed and being disgruntled with the state is not a crime.
Unless you're a "brown person" and GW is the POTUS. :mrgreen:They militia did nothing illegal, being armed and being disgruntled with the state is not a crime.
I believe plotting to kill police officers, or in fact anyone is a crime. Provided it is serious plotting and not just some drunken what if scenario
No, the people are given a right by the founding fathers to fight what they percieve as a tyranical goverment and its soldiers. Now if they actually acted, then a court and a jury of piers would judge whether the actions were warranted. Meeting and plotting against the goverment is perfectly ok based on our values.
They engaged in a conspiracy to commit acts of murder, that is a crime. They were arrested for it
A court and a jury of their piers will now judge whether the actions were warranted
No they aren't. They're given a right to peaceably assemble, not plot murder of cops. These guys are the real tyrants, not the govt that the Founders created. If they were in power, then you'd see what real tyranny is.No, the people are given a right by the founding fathers to fight what they percieve as a tyranical goverment and its soldiers.
Nope, plotting a crime is punishable by law. That's why (for example) undercover cops who seek out sex offenders on the internet can have them charged for trying to arrange sex with minors online (even if they don't actually molest a minor).Now if they actually acted, then a court and a jury of piers would judge whether the actions were warranted.
Or lack thereof.Meeting and plotting against the goverment is perfectly ok based on our values.
Is this how Bush and Chaney found out about all those weapons of massssss destruction in Iraq and that Sadam Husain was responsible for 9/11, and all that other good information he had?
Missiles are not "WMDs" :doh If that's your standard of WMDs then we need to invade Saudi Arabia, China, Russia, Iran, etc etc too right?I guess. But I think the 'weapon of mass destruction' found in Iraq was a weee bit larger than the so-called 'WMDs' the Hutaree militia was allegedly found with.
God has no interest in how we treat our fellow man?
No they aren't. They're given a right to peaceably assemble, not plot murder of cops. These guys are the real tyrants, not the govt that the Founders created. If they were in power, then you'd see what real tyranny is.
Nope, plotting a crime is punishable by law. That's why (for example) undercover cops who seek out sex offenders on the internet can have them charged for trying to arrange sex with minors online (even if they don't actually molest a minor).
They might be bad people, but they did nothing illegal.
No, they were planning to protect therepublic (in their mind).
What if someone (in their mind) thought you were a danger to the country and decided to take you out?
Since when is self delusion an excuse for plotting murder?
14th Amendment stipulates no person shall be deprived of constitutional rights regarding life, liberty, property, or due process by any state in the Union; whether they are citizens or not is irrelevant. Both residents and non-residents are entitled to all rights except those specifically reserved to citizens (aka, the vote). However, regarding foreign terrorist suspects, habeas corpus has been suspended.
Missiles are not "WMDs" :doh If that's your standard of WMDs then we need to invade Saudi Arabia, China, Russia, Iran, etc etc too right?
I am not in power, the goverment on the other hand should always be afraid of its people always.
The government should always be afraid of being voted out of office, not of being killed at a friends funeral.
Really. Even if said government becomes tyrannical and oppressive?
I know. Why don't they just call WMDs what they mean for it to be called: A nuke.
Really. Even if said government becomes tyrannical and oppressive?
You're suggesting that killing police officers is now justified?
THAT part would be pretty stupid, even if one stipulated that the government was tyrannical and needed to be opposed... which at this point is still a very dubious assertion. As long as the ballot box remains a viable option for real change, resorting to the cartridge box is premature at best.
Because WMDs are not strictly limited to nuclear weapons. They also include chemical and biological weapons designed to kill large numbers of people.
I guess. But I think the 'weapon of mass destruction' found in Iraq was a weee bit larger than the so-called 'WMDs' the Hutaree militia was allegedly found with.
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