More than just like, I applaud.Depends. What do you mean by morality?
If we're talking about banning same-sex marriage and waging a war on drugs because they make Baby Jesus cry, then no, government should not be involved. If we're talking about deciding together, as a society, that there are certain things we aren't willing to tolerate (e.g. human rights abuses, corporations taking advantage of weak people, being unable to get health care when you get sick), then yes, government absolutely should be involved.
Like CC said, all laws are morally based. There are consequences for not obeying the law. So the government doesn't exactly force people to live a moral life, but it does punish them for not doing so.
Depends. What do you mean by morality?
If we're talking about banning same-sex marriage and waging a war on drugs because they make Baby Jesus cry, then no, government should not be involved. If we're talking about deciding together, as a society, that there are certain things we aren't willing to tolerate (e.g. human rights abuses, corporations taking advantage of weak people, being unable to get health care when you get sick), then yes, government absolutely should be involved.
Yeah, might hurt their self esteem or something. :roll:All laws are not morally based... especially by-stander laws. You are pretty much protected from being punished if you watch somebody die... A lot of decisions made in family court doesn't seem right or moral to me...
Reminds me of another thread... should child abusers be sterilized, so they don't have more children to abuse and hurt? It sounds morally reasonable, but enforcing it would be in violation of the abusers rights... :shrug:
The government should not legislate morality. The government should legislate behavior which harms other people without their consent. That covers not only the obvious crimes of violence, but also acts of fraud, theft, vandelism, contractual violations, etc. These are society laws.
The government should not legislate "moral" behavior such as sexual orientation, forced church attendance, specific systems of belief (religious or otherrwise), any behavior between consenting adults, or victimless behavior, like prostitution and use of drugs, alcohol or tobacco (although the government can certainly legislate the consequence of recklessly abusing these substances, creating potential harm to others in the process).
Yeah, might hurt their self esteem or something. :roll:
I think someone who abuses children deserve to have their rights taken away from them.What is your position on that?
These laws are also based on morality. Perhaps not EVERYONE'S morality, but morality nonetheless.
I think someone who abuses children deserve to have their rights taken away from them.
And you'd be wrong, but this is America and you have every right to be wrong! :mrgreen:
Have a seat so you don't faint. Are you sitting down? Good. Because the fact is that I personally don't care if brothers and sisters want to get married. I consider it a huge ick factor myself, but I don't believe the government has the right to criminalize it. Or bigamy. Or polygamy, for that matter. All I care about is that all parties are consenting adults, not duped spouses being lied to by someone with a secret life.
Grown ups have a right to do icky things, things I personally would never do. I don't believe the government has the right to criminalize behaviors between consenting adults, period. And yes, that extends to assisted suicide. Government needs to keep our society safe from those who would infringe upon our bodies, our property and our freedoms without our consent. Morality is not in the government's job description as far as I'm concerned.
This is wide open to debate.....define "abuse".I think someone who abuses children deserve to have their rights taken away from them.
Common sense. It's my notion that punishing someone for actions that don't harm anyone is unfair.And what is it, exactly, that makes your notions of "fairness" better than someone else's?
The government legislates morality all the time, such as making murder a felony. I'm okay with murder being a crime.
And you'd be wrong, but this is America and you have every right to be wrong! :mrgreen:
Have a seat so you don't faint. Are you sitting down? Good. Because the fact is that I personally don't care if brothers and sisters want to get married. I consider it a huge ick factor myself, but I don't believe the government has the right to criminalize it. Or bigamy. Or polygamy, for that matter. All I care about is that all parties are consenting adults, not duped spouses being lied to by someone with a secret life.
Grown ups have a right to do icky things, things I personally would never do. I don't believe the government has the right to criminalize behaviors between consenting adults, period. And yes, that extends to assisted suicide. Government needs to keep our society safe from those who would infringe upon our bodies, our property and our freedoms without our consent. Morality is not in the government's job description as far as I'm concerned.
Well, we were specifically talking about sexual abuse. I can't ignore the obvious, the obvious is what I was referring to.This is wide open to debate.....define "abuse".
Forget the obvious (physical), go to the mental abuse, the self-esteem thing..
Many people simply do not know any better..
Extremism enters the picture.
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