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I'm not blaming anyone for anything, but at the end of the day these kids have to learn to take responsibility for themselves. It's really not my fault or anyone else's when the kids fail to use a condoms. It's not as if these kids aren't told to use condoms, so what excuse do they really have to not buy and use them? It's not as if they are expensive or hard to find.
Why is it the government job to make sure kids have condoms? Why do you have to use government force to make fellow citizens do as you want? Why can't you go out and talk to your citizens and together provide kids with condoms?
You can get condoms for free at any Planned Parenthood or STD clinic. Plentiful condoms are a benefit to public health, controlling the spread of HIV. And preventing teenage pregnancy.
An example where "common sense" actually means terrible advice.
No, conflating sex and marriage is old fashioned, out of date, and detrimental. A healthy sex life is not served by pledging a lifelong commitment without any idea what you're doing or knowing what you want. Ignorance in relationships and romance is terribly unfair to a spouse. Defining responsibility as "settling down and breeding" is old fashioned and out of date.
And abstinence-only education outright lies to kids in order to scare them into not having sex, but the actual result is that kids don't know to use birth control. Telling kids not to have sex doesn't accomplish anything. It never has. Helping them do so safely is the only way to prevent unwanted pregnancies.
"It's more important to blame people and feel superior than it is to solve problems."
Easy to say when one is born fortunate enough not to have to take those risks.
Why so hard to be a nation of people that watch out for each other?
And yet, distributing them to kids actually gets kids to use them. Crazy, right?
It is pathetic and sad how much of this thread is callousness and egoism.
So easy. So simple. So logical. So... out of touch with reality.I'm not blaming anyone for anything, but at the end of the day these kids have to learn to take responsibility for themselves. They know to use them, they are easily affordable, and they are readily available. All they have to do is go to the store and pick some up. That is it.
Why is it the government job to make sure kids have condoms? Why do you have to use government force to make fellow citizens do as you want? Why can't you go out and talk to your citizens and together provide kids with condoms?
So easy. So simple. So logical. So... out of touch with reality.
I don't see why not. I mean, the stats show that teens are gonna have sex anyway, so we might as well make sure they have protected sex.
Then you pay for it.
They should pay $1 like everyone else.Should teenagers be given free condoms?
Socialists never have any money. :2razz:
i dont think so, he rights on target.
Condoms - I fail to see how someone can't purchase those for their self. They don't cost that much and are available from just about anywhere, they don't require a Dr's visit, a prescription, time to fill the prescription, nor would they possibly risk someone's health when administered . . .etc
If they're going to hand out condoms for free they might as well hand out all BC for free :shrug:
Is there a reason why an able-bodied individual cannot afford $10.00 of condoms a month? And trust me - most people don't need a whole box to get through 30 days of sex.
..and abortion, and child care, and food-stamps, and Title-19, and housing, and health care, and retirement....Yes. And birth control. And Plan B.
His common fatal flaw in discussions like this is he consistently fails to discern idealism with human nature... what should should do vs what people will actually do.
I phrased my response carefully. What he says makes sense, as in it is what people should do. It utterly fails when tested, however.
Can we go back to that ideal? Maybe. If we did it would be a long process, and in the mean time do we really want to have an explosion of unwanted kids on the taxpayer bill? THAT's reality. We can argue whether they should be on the taxpayer bill, but they are and it's not changing anytime soon. Is that what you want?
Socialists never have any money. :2razz:
..and abortion, and child care, and food-stamps, and Title-19, and housing, and health care, and retirement....
Do you really not see the difference between a single individual doing something and a collection of individuals comprising a society doing something akin to the herding of cats?It's kind of interesting how we create safety net and then spend our time trying to keep off of it. I can't recall a time when I created something and then spend my time trying to me sure no one used it.
Don't hand them out, but have them available so they can get them without having to embarrass themselves.
They should be embarassed, there used to be something called shame in this country where people didn't do things because they didn't want other people to think badly of them.
We need to bring that back.
His common fatal flaw in discussions like this is he consistently fails to discern idealism with human nature... what should should do vs what people will actually do.
I phrased my response carefully. What he says makes sense, as in it is what people should do. It utterly fails when tested, however.
Can we go back to that ideal? Maybe. If we did it would be a long process, and in the mean time do we really want to have an explosion of unwanted kids on the taxpayer bill? THAT's reality. We can argue whether they should be on the taxpayer bill, but they are and it's not changing anytime soon. Is that what you want?
Is it a waste? It's a drop in the bucket compared to paying for unplanned kids.
Do you want to stand on principle, or do you want tax money to pay for unplanned kids?
Option C does not exist.
Do you really not see the difference between a single individual doing something and a collection of individuals comprising a society doing something akin to the herding of cats?
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