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Should Rumsfeld resign? (1 Viewer)

Should Rumsfeld resign?

  • yes

    Votes: 23 69.7%
  • no

    Votes: 10 30.3%

  • Total voters
    33
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hipsterdufus

Six retired generals have now called for Rumsfeld to step down, including two who spoke out on Thursday.

Retired Marine Corps Gen. Anthony Zinni added to the pressure for Rumsfeld's scalp by telling CNN that Rumsfeld should be held accountable for a series of blunders, starting with "throwing away 10 years worth of planning, plans that had taken into account what we would face in an occupation of Iraq."

His views were supported by other commanders who served under Rumsfeld.

"I really believe that we need a new secretary of defense because Secretary Rumsfeld carries way too much baggage with him," said retired Maj. Gen. Charles Swannack, who led the Army's 82nd Airborne Division in Iraq.

"Specifically, I feel he has micromanaged the generals who are leading our forces," he told CNN.

Retired Major Gen. John Riggs told National Public Radio that Rumsfeld had helped create an atmosphere of "arrogance" among the Pentagon's top civilian leadership.

"They only need the military advice when it satisfies their agenda. I think that's a mistake, and that's why I think he should resign," Riggs said.

But at the White House, the 73-year-old Rumsfeld drew unflinching support. "Yes, the president believes Secretary Rumsfeld is doing a very fine job during a challenging period," White House spokesman Scott McClellan told reporters.

Recently retired Maj. Gen. John Batiste, who commanded the 1st Infantry Division in Iraq, urged Rumsfeld on Wednesday to resign.

In recent weeks, retired Marine Corps Lt. Gen. Gregory Newbold and Army Maj. Gen. Paul Eaton have also spoke up.

The demands for Rumsfeld's departure came as opinion polls show eroding public support for the 3-year-old Iraq war in which about 2,360 U.S. troops have died and Bush is struggling to bolster Americans' confidence in the war effort.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060414/pl_nm/iraq_usa_dc_5
 
I said no, but only because the longer he stays on, the worse things are for this administration and the republicans in general.
 
Again, no vote, lousy choices.
Perhaps it is good that these generals are retired !
 
earthworm said:
Again, no vote, lousy choices.
Perhaps it is good that these generals are retired !

Million dollar book deals for everyone!!
All you have to do is slap around the administration a bit.
Where do we sign up?
 
earthworm said:
Again, no vote, lousy choices.
Perhaps it is good that these generals are retired !

Lousy choices? What's wrong with yes and no?
 
afr0byte said:
Lousy choices? What's wrong with yes and no?

I guess that was a maybe vote, lol.
 
aps said:
I said no, but only because the longer he stays on, the worse things are for this administration and the republicans in general.

I would certainly trade higher poll numbers for Bush in exchange for Rummy's resignation, and a plan to get the targets off of our troops back in Iraq.

In the end, it doesn't matter if Bush's approval is at 1% or 99%. He's in, until 1-20-09, impeachement, or trial at the Hague....
 
It has taken 60 years, but the General's are revolting again!
 
akyron said:
Million dollar book deals for everyone!!
All you have to do is slap around the administration a bit.
Where do we sign up?

Yes, we all know that all these generals, who have devoted their lives and careers to defending the country, care only about making a buck or two. :roll:
What I don't get is why the generals who fervidly support the administration don't come out with books saying how greatly they executed this war. I mean, there are partisan morons on both sides; I'm sure the idiots who blindly support Bush would buy pro-Bush books, wouldn't they? How about you, akyron, what are your thoughts on the matter?
 
Bottom line Zinni ap artisan hackand a Kerry supporter organized this travesty.....

If these Generals had a complaint they should have made it while on active duty and then retired in protest.......According to General Myers that did not happen............I personally smell something rotten in Denmark........
 
Befuddled_Stoner said:
How about you, akyron, what are your thoughts on the matter?


I dont buy political books. They are always one sided propaganda.

History and sci-fi fantasy only. Now selling one...thats a thought....

Take a closer look at the history of each of these officers just fyi.
 
Give them hell Rummy...Hell no he should not resign.......Let them eat cake.......
 
Navy Pride said:
Give them hell Rummy...Hell no he should not resign.......Let them eat cake.......

How did that "let them eat cake" work out for Marie Antoinette? Was that what Bush said during the Katrina debaucle?

How is that "I'm a uniter, not a divider" claim by Bush working out?
 
Well lets see the next thing you liberals are going to blame Bush for is the Tornados.......Stay tuned.......
 
Navy Pride said:
Well lets see the next thing you liberals are going to blame Bush for is the Tornados.......Stay tuned.......

If you continue to call me liberal then I reserve the right to call you a neo-con. At least you didn't blame Clinton for tornados. Perhaps there is hope for you yet.
 
Hell no...this war is already F@cked up enough..we dont need to change the quarterback.
 
tecoyah said:
Hell no...this war is already F@cked up enough..we dont need to change the quarterback.

Wrong analogy. I don't have a problem with the players on the field. It is the coach that is the problem. To quote the Chicago Cubs fans, "Maybe next year". :rofl
 
independent_thinker2002 said:
If you continue to call me liberal then I reserve the right to call you a neo-con. At least you didn't blame Clinton for tornados. Perhaps there is hope for you yet.

Your a liberal and I am a conservative......The difference in us is I am proud to be a conservative and you like most are ashamed to be a liberal.....
 
independent_thinker2002 said:
If you continue to call me liberal then I reserve the right to call you a neo-con. At least you didn't blame Clinton for tornados. Perhaps there is hope for you yet.

How could someone not call you a liberal with that big, flamboyant peace sign on your avatar?
 
Navy Pride said:
Your a liberal and I am a conservative......The difference in us is I am proud to be a conservative and you like most are ashamed to be a liberal.....

Your label doesn't stick to me. You don't define me. I have liberal ideas, sure. But that doesn't make me a liberal. We have been through this before. I will just have to accept you can only understand two groups at a time. You neo-cons aren't great multi-taskers. I am proud to be me. I don't have to fit in to a group to be proud.
 
George_Washington said:
No, Rumsfeld shouldn't resign. I think it's obvious to anyone with a half a brain that these, "Generals" have political motives...

There is no question about it George.......They were recruited by Zinni who was a politcal hack for Kerry in 2004........

They are not fooling anyone........
 
Navy Pride said:
There is no question about it George.......They were recruited by Zinni who was a politcal hack for Kerry in 2004........

They are not fooling anyone........

I know, this whole thing is so ridiculous. I wouldn't even give those Generals the time of day. If I were Bush and Rumsfeld, I would completely ignore them, call them the traitors to their Commander in Chief like they are, and ignore the liberal reporters that deliberately ask biased questions.
 
George_Washington said:
How could someone not call you a liberal with that big, flamboyant peace sign on your avatar?

Are you saying that liberals are the only ones for peace? My republican friends who happen to be Greatful Dead fans would disagree.
 
independent_thinker2002 said:
Your label doesn't stick to me. You don't define me. I have liberal ideas, sure. But that doesn't make me a liberal. We have been through this before. I will just have to accept you can only understand two groups at a time. You neo-cons aren't great multi-taskers. I am proud to be me. I don't have to fit in to a group to be proud.

When it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck then its usually a duck my liberal friend..........Be a man.stand up and be counted.......
 

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