Harry Guerrilla
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Does anyone really believe that all the people dissenting are paid by the insurance lobby?
This seems like a ploy to silence over all dissent and nothing else, would you hold politicians to a law against lying?
The issue is not that that a person can be arrested for "disturbing the peace,creating a public nuisance,etc...." The issue is that you suggested that there should be a new law that determine whether or not a person is faking what they believe and proceuting them under said law. And that it would not be a local misdemeanor offence but a Federal Felony offence. There is a big difference in spending a few days or perhaps weeks in the local jail and spending several years in a federal penitentiary which you are no doubt aware doesn't have any parole except for the last 15% of the sentence.
I seriously doubt that the people making the accusations that the protesters are bogus actually believe them to be fake.
& I stand behind my idea that new federal laws need to be enacted that will punish those who deliberately travel around the country for the purpose of infringing on other citizen's First Amendment rights.
(If they are part of a larger conspiracy & do this for money, all the harsher the sentence they should receive)
& I stand behind my idea that new federal laws need to be enacted that will punish those who deliberately travel around the country for the purpose of infringing on other citizen's First Amendment rights. (If they are part of a larger conspiracy & do this for money, all the harsher the sentence they should receive)
I seriously doubt that the people making the accusations that the protesters are bogus actually believe them to be fake. I agree with you that it is a merely a tactic to try to discredit the opposition to socialist medicine,just like when liars made the claim that the tax tea parties were fake. Discredit your opponents and it will make it easy for politicians to ignore them. They want this socialist medicine in the guise of healthcare reform to pass and seem to be worried that there is a huge change of this failing.
So you deny conservatives have been writing memo's encouraging their readers to disrupt town hall meetings?
You deny that many of the chants of these "Protesters" are canned & taken right out of the RNC talking points?
You deny that many of these "legitimate" protesters admit that they don't live anywhere near the town that is holding this local meeting?
I do not know if this is true or not,but it doesn't make the protesters fake.
It could be argue that anti-war protesters use DNC or perhaps even terrorist talking points. It still doesn't make the protesters fake. Many people share the same opinion.
I do not know if this is true or not but location of residence in some other area does not make the protesters fake. Do all the code pink morons live in Sanfransicko or Berkly?
Does this apply to any protesters who shout down people speaking or just the ones you falsely deem fake?
Last time I checked, the constitution doesn't protect anyone's right to deprive others of their First Amendment rights.Last time I checked the constitution doesn't banned paid protesters.
It would apply to anyone infringing on the First Amendment rights of others.
( the flagrancy & whether or not they are paid operatives would only come into account when a decision is being made for prosecution. Paid operatives should get the book thrown at them while legitimate protesters would probably not be prosecuted, just removed from the meeting).
Last time I checked, the constitution doesn't protect anyone's right to deprive others of their First Amendment rights.
Devil's whole premise is a pack of lies. He tried this with another thread, and it was smacked down as it was deserved.
You see, with sam w and others, it's not about right or wrong, it's about left or right. They and their ilk showed no anger when the dems do this very same thing, but are outraged when the right does it. It's either wrong all the time, or it's OK all the time. You don't get to be selective in your outrage if you want anyone to take you seriously.
I was pissed when Bush signed TARP. I was pissed when Obama signed the Stimulus bill. I've been angry about government bailouts no matter who is doing it, and I'm far from alone in this. I was pissed when the repubs spent like sailors in a whorehouse. I am pissed that the dems are spending at a rate far greater than sailors in a whorehouse. I am consistent in my outrage. Others are not.
Now, if you wish to bring up a separate issue of liberals disrupting town halls this week, please do post. But before you do, allow me to say this for the record. I do not accept this tactic to be used PERIOD. This is NOT discussion, but rather a suppression of discussion. Thus, I am against it. So if you do have some evidence of Liberals doing this, then please do post.
You just can't debate without resorting to childish, personal attacks...can you? (meet you after school!)
Show me in the constitution where it is illegal to pay one person to speak on the behalf of another.
If they tried to drown out the free speech of others I would.Would you be for the prosecution of Moveon.org, codepink? or are you reserving your gulags to citizens you don't like?
You just can't debate without resorting to childish, personal attacks...can you? (meet you after school!)
It is already illegal to disturb the peace. (do you actually read any posts before you spout off?
If they tried to drown out the free speech of others I would.
That's the difference here: We aren't afraid for you to hear the opposition. You guys are terrified that the obvious truth of what we are saying will get through, so you try to prevent anyhone from even hearing our words.
As usual he does not know what he is talking about, so the next best step is to call names. Works like a charm, or so he thinks so. It's always emotional, never fact. Facts are an inconvenient truth.
Kind of like Tea-bagging governors that protest the stimulus, then run around their state bragging about stimulus money, right good Reverend? Inconvenient truth....sucks doesn't it?
So then you thought Gates was rightfully arrested? Good to know.
Also please talk about how you are for the arrest and imprisonment of anti-war protestors.
They did. They do. Why are you so quick to give these organizations a pass, yet you can't even NAME the imaginary organization that is controlling in your mind these protests at the town hall?
Hypocrite much?
Really?
ProtestWarrior.com - Crashing the Protests
ProtestWarrior.com - A.N.S.W.E.R. Infiltrated
especially this one:
ProtestWarrior.com - Eagle Strike
Lets see if you can be not hypocritical. :lol:
Eagle Strike takes you on a chilling detour to a recent anti-war protest -- a dark leftist underworld where the fifth column gathers to spew their hatred of America and Israel. And while the left aligns themselves with brutal Islamic tyrants, they're going to learn while they can protest America, we can protest them.
MUAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHA freaking hilarious, does not get any better than this. Question, is this the favorite website of Montana militia members reading while they are hunkered down in their bunkers?
Are you going for Irony? Thats nice.... :lol:
Please, what "facts" have you posted?
Good lord, I have posted this so many times. To which you always ignore, how cute. Dear Reverend, please don't ever mention the word "facts" when you yourself find them to be such an inconvenient truth.
And really, do you honestly need facts of Jindal, Sanders, Perrys, Kingstons, Kyl's, etc... hypocrisy? Really good Reverend?
Still waiting for you to post your "facts".....
Hey I know, why don't you go back to any number of the posts I have made that showed this to which YOU IGNORED. I know you are so talented at looking back at past posts....
hyp⋅o⋅crite
/ˈhɪpəkrɪt/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [hip-uh-krit] Show IPA
Use hypocrite in a Sentence
–noun
1. a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, esp. a person whose actions belie stated beliefs.
2. a person who feigns some desirable or publicly approved attitude, esp. one whose private life, opinions, or statements belie his or her public statements.
Give you a start, just go look at any post of mine with the keyword hypocrite.
Hey I know, why don't you go back to any number of the posts I have made that showed this to which YOU IGNORED. I know you are so talented at looking back at past posts....
hyp⋅o⋅crite
/ˈhɪpəkrɪt/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [hip-uh-krit] Show IPA
Use hypocrite in a Sentence
–noun
1. a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, esp. a person whose actions belie stated beliefs.
2. a person who feigns some desirable or publicly approved attitude, esp. one whose private life, opinions, or statements belie his or her public statements.
Give you a start, just go look at any post of mine with the keyword hypocrite.
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