Which is why they should be assigned homework over the summer. Nothing much, but enough so they don't get lazy. If I had year round school I might have killed myself.
Oh see it was different for me. I had to give them a list of books I wanted to read and they had to check and make sure the books were not under my grade level.
That would of been better in my opinion but honestly, I hated school with a passion.
I really, really hated it.
I remember in 8th grade going to sleep in class because many of the students had serious reading problems, couldn't pronounce words, etc.
The better read students are stuffed in the class with the kids that had reading problems.
It was moronic.
My high school had tracking -- AP/Advanced; CP (college prep); General 1; General 2; Remedial
The school I taught at in Georgia did NOT do this (except for AP) because it was deemed a racist policy. Makes me glad I grew up in a state that didn't have to deal with that nonsense...
As I was in the CP (College Prep) track, I always had summer reading I had to slog through -- while on road trips for soccer (which is how I spent most of my summers from the time I was 10 years old)... People who say students need structured time in the summer, playing on travel teams can be HIGHLY structured..
Yep I played soccer every day for a team and baseball every Tuesday night with a couple of friends at a local park. Plus the 5 books I read a summer and various other math and science things my dad had me do. It wasn't until I was introduced to the addictive thing known as video games that my summers began to change.
Where do you think I went to school?
Middle school was odd, anyone who passed the reading portion of the Iowa test(?) was exempt from the reading class and could take a foreign language.
However, they stuffed all of us in the same language arts class.
Super idiotic, moronic.
Reading stuff like, "The Most Dangerous Game," took forever because a lot of the kids stumbled or couldn't pronounce the words.
I still remember when I was in high school having to do my summer reading on the plane while on the way to a series of matches somewhere in another part of the US or even in Europe or South America...
Had no time for video games when I was a kid... too busy with sports...
Georgia?!?! There are some very good schools and teachers there, but the racial policies really do a disservice to education in the state.
It is insane to NOT separate students based on achievement/ability. I would have absolutely died had I been forced into classes with most of my schoolmates -- I actually enjoyed being in classes where my fellow classmates could read and write at or above grade level -- though having said that, educational achievement in NH is generally MUCH higher than it is in GA.
Which is why they should be assigned homework over the summer. Nothing much, but enough so they don't get lazy. If I had year round school I might have killed myself.
What the heck are you going to do when you have to work year round?As a teacher maybe. As a student who has been in class since last July straight, so a full year I can tell you I am so damn tired of school. That is including the month off I have for Christmas and at least a three day weekend every month.
What the heck are you going to do when you have to work year round?
No, I'm not the norm at my school. One other teacher is always there when I am on Saturdays. Some teachers come in early everyday. Some stay late. I don't know many that work during the summer unless it's summer school which is only 4 weeks.
I make the average salary in my state. If I didn't have my Masters I would still be at the low end of the pool.
Elementary. I have my Masters in reading education with a reading specialist endorsement.
No thank you. I don't agree with homework anyway. But when my kid has that long of a holiday, I have my own lesson plans. I'm not going to waste my time with junk like every day math. And I'm a responsible parent. There are a lot more who are not and don't bother helping their kids or nagging them to get it done. If the teacher has a lesson plan, that's their job, not mine.
My son has to read 3 books this summer, and that's fine. For his first book, he picked a Goosebumps book, so I decorated a few rooms with creepy Halloween stuff. I prefer he reads to me so I know he's getting it done, and this was kind of fun to have Halloween in July. I had forgotten all those skuls and ghouls were up when we had company last week. Oooops.
What the heck are you going to do when you have to work year round?
Honestly that response was more just personal frustration in the amount of work I have when taking three summer courses. I actually love school, I just needed to vent at the moment. Plus since I haven't had a summer since Junior year in high school I don't really think shifting to a 9-5 job will be that big of an issue. Especially since I held a 9-5 job for 3 straight summers.
I am a teacher, had about $60K in debt (private school), never take papers home to grade, never plan at home, hate the unions too...
I had a teacher ask me one time if I ever take anything home. I explained to her that I used my planning time and even lunch to get things done. I also come in on Saturdays usually to get everything ready for the next couple weeks. My lesson plans are prepared two weeks ahead of time.
She, however, is off immediately to the lounge or other teachers' rooms to sit and talk whenever she gets a break. She is always weeks behind on grading.
P.S. I believe I'm paid very well. I make just as much or more than a lot of teachers who have been teaching longer than me.
My son has to read 3 books this summer, and that's fine. For his first book, he picked a Goosebumps book, so I decorated a few rooms with creepy Halloween stuff.
Thanks for the reply Mellie. I'm still trying to decide whether I want my masters right after college or not. I figure if I can't get a job right out I'll go another year and grab my masters. I'm hoping with a degree in secondary ed, a major in biology and a masters I should be all set.
This must be discussed with input from the children(this would be a first!) and input from the few "parents" who care.
Check the attendance at a PTA meeting..
So much improvement is necessary..
So foolish just to think that Sweden sets any standards, how about China and Japan or Germany and Israel??
The very worst are ours from the 18th century, yet we have people who embrace these.....
Do kids still like Goosebumps books?
My kids loved them. That and "Choose your own adventure" books.
They used to write their own Goosebumps stories, too.
I gave them my old manual typewriter to write them on.
They were pretty hilarious. :lol:
Well most kids I know would probably say hell no to an all year school.
Most parents I know also would say hell no
I absolutely ADORE my 2 and half months off with my son in vactionland. But I do see the toll it takes on him. 2 and a half months break to too long. Kids *do* lose some of what they've learned, and the month of September is usually spent catching up. That's a waste. Because the kids and the teachers are all anxious and excited for the long break, the actual lessons taper off a few weeks before end of school. By Memorial Day weekend, my kid is usually done learning anything.
Because so many families are unable or unwilling to have one parent home, many kids are warehoused in craptastic "camps" for the summer. Sure there are some excellent camps out there, but the affordable ones are often junk. I cannot imagine what kind of "break" it is to go to some dump in town with no place to swim (except on periodic field trips) 5 days a week usually from 8-5 and learn to make ice cream in a bag.
With or without camp, my mom friends and I have come to expect what we refer to as the mid-summer meltdown. It happens every year without fail. Kids need and crave structure. When unstructured goes on for too long, kids do not do well. The meltdown ensues and lasts for about 2 weeks. Kids start to perk up again in August (ironically or not) when the back to school ads start airing.
I also believe it sets people up for major disappointment when they enter the real world and find that they only get one week off each year. :shock:
So I support year round school with a few well timed, longer breaks. Get rid of the one week off in November, December, February and April, and space things out better with a longer break. Then a month off in the summer.
Why most parents?
I always thought that is why kids are out for planning days: so that teachers can use those days to set up lesson plans. Also do any teachers use part of their vacation time to plan out lesson plans?
Do you all get unemployment during summer or any pay?
I mean most parents I know and have talked to about this issue. Understand now?
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