Skeptic Bob
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Given that the federal government is the largest employer in the nation, should Congress pass legislation that federal workers can’t be evicted or have their utilities cut off and other basic protections during a shutdown?
I think it would be a good thing to do and a necessary thing if the shutdown goes into February.
Given that the federal government is the largest employer in the nation, should Congress pass legislation that federal workers can’t be evicted or have their utilities cut off and other basic protections during a shutdown?
I think it would be a good thing to do and a necessary thing if the shutdown goes into February.
Given that the federal government is the largest employer in the nation, should Congress pass legislation that federal workers can’t be evicted or have their utilities cut off and other basic protections during a shutdown?
I think it would be a good thing to do and a necessary thing if the shutdown goes into February.
I would say no, for two reasons. The first is that I am against the idea special privileges and immunities arrogated to the state. I do not believe it is at all proper that Federal employees should receive special treatment over non-Federal employees and be given immunities not enjoyed by other citizens.
Second, what about the people to whom the Federal employees who are owed money? I think if that is done, I do not think many landlords are going to be falling over themselves to rent to Federal Employees. Let us pretend, for the sake of argument, that I am a landlord and I own a rental home that I still owe a mortgage on. Let us further pretend that I am renting to a Federal Employee who cannot pay me my rent, and under normal circumstances I would need to evict the person and get in a new renter ASAP. Why should my credit be ruined because I cannot afford to pay that mortgage because I am not receiving the rent, and am still responsible for maintaining this property of a tenant at sufferance?
Given that the federal government is the largest employer in the nation, should Congress pass legislation that federal workers can’t be evicted or have their utilities cut off and other basic protections during a shutdown?
I think it would be a good thing to do and a necessary thing if the shutdown goes into February.
I think a better idea is that Federal workers be placed on a "furlough" and remain eligible for back payment of wages in the event of a shutdown.
Failing that, then a special Federal Unemployment Insurance program which pays Federal workers a portion of their wages during any shutdown pending reactivation to full-time employment.
Either would create pressure on Congress and the President to reach a compromise, because an increasing need to re-allocate funds from other goals to pay for such benefits would deter both from long-term shutdowns.
Given that the federal government is the largest employer in the nation, should Congress pass legislation that federal workers can’t be evicted or have their utilities cut off and other basic protections during a shutdown?
I think it would be a good thing to do and a necessary thing if the shutdown goes into February.
I would say no, for two reasons. The first is that I am against the idea special privileges and immunities arrogated to the state. I do not believe it is at all proper that Federal employees should receive special treatment over non-Federal employees and be given immunities not enjoyed by other citizens.
Second, what about the people to whom the Federal employees owe money? I think if that is done, I do not think many landlords are going to be falling over themselves to rent to Federal Employees. Let us pretend, for the sake of argument, that I am a landlord and I own a rental home that I still owe a mortgage on. Let us further pretend that I am renting to a Federal Employee who cannot pay me my rent, and under normal circumstances I would need to evict the person and get in a new renter ASAP. Why should my credit be ruined because I cannot afford to pay that mortgage because I am not receiving the rent, and am still responsible for maintaining this property of a tenant at sufferance?
Given that the federal government is the largest employer in the nation, should Congress pass legislation that federal workers can’t be evicted or have their utilities cut off and other basic protections during a shutdown?
I think it would be a good thing to do and a necessary thing if the shutdown goes into February.
No. You cannot create another protected class of citizen.Given that the federal government is the largest employer in the nation, should Congress pass legislation that federal workers can’t be evicted or have their utilities cut off and other basic protections during a shutdown?
I think it would be a good thing to do and a necessary thing if the shutdown goes into February.
Given that the federal government is the largest employer in the nation, should Congress pass legislation that federal workers can’t be evicted or have their utilities cut off and other basic protections during a shutdown?
I think it would be a good thing to do and a necessary thing if the shutdown goes into February.
Given that the federal government is the largest employer in the nation, should Congress pass legislation that federal workers can’t be evicted or have their utilities cut off and other basic protections during a shutdown?
I think it would be a good thing to do and a necessary thing if the shutdown goes into February.
No.
I want government shut downs to be as painful as they possibly can be to encourage Congressmen and Presidents to think twice when they decide to hold government funding hostage in their political squabbles.
I think, if funding for an agency or agencies is not passed, that agency or those agencies should completely shut down. Nobody works. Nobody gets paid. Everyone stays home until the funding is authorized by Congress and the President. That includes funding for the military and for Congress, itself.
It's easy to say someone else should bear the pain so that you can get what you want in policy terms.
It's also contemptible.
PAR!
No. You cannot create another protected class of citizen.
Layoff's are a part of business in the private sector. Why eliminate civil service from the realities of economics? I never saw a public employee get all teary eyed over stories of Americans losing their jobs during recessions. This is just a different kind of recession - a political one, ginned up by the democrats. The only reason anyone cares is the public employee unions supply millions of dollars in dues to democrats. America's borders don't give money to the democrats, but federal workers do.
The bottom line is the democrats feel those poor workers with gold plated medical, dental, and retirement are a worthy sacrifice to prevent giving Trump a "win".
I alter my view to: pass a law tweaking the definition of essential and non-essential services such that even if a service is deemed "non-essential", the workers have to get paid despite being ordered home.
They don't deserve this ****. It's not their fight. And if the 'waste' of money involved in paying people to not work discourages shutdowns, good. This is no way to govern, especially in a constitutional scheme in which checking the executive is supposed to be a good thing...
Given that the federal government is the largest employer in the nation, should Congress pass legislation that federal workers can’t be evicted or have their utilities cut off and other basic protections during a shutdown?
I think it would be a good thing to do and a necessary thing if the shutdown goes into February.
Given that the federal government is the largest employer in the nation, should Congress pass legislation that federal workers can’t be evicted or have their utilities cut off and other basic protections during a shutdown?
I think it would be a good thing to do and a necessary thing if the shutdown goes into February.
Would it be 100% of their pay?
Given that the federal government is the largest employer in the nation, should Congress pass legislation that federal workers can’t be evicted or have their utilities cut off and other basic protections during a shutdown?
I think it would be a good thing to do and a necessary thing if the shutdown goes into February.
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