- Joined
- Jun 18, 2018
- Messages
- 77,029
- Reaction score
- 80,620
- Gender
- Male
- Political Leaning
- Progressive
I just mentioned one to Gimme: the idea that the country ought to allow illegals to be the new underclass to do the dirty jobs, because supposedly no citizens will do them. Which is stupid because the point of illegals is that companies can underpay them because they're not capable of bringing legal action.
I think if Democrats want to win, they should embrace a moderate, third-way, Bill Clinton form of liberalism. If they went to the right on immigration, transgenderism, and guns, they would gain a lot of support. I think someone like former Virginia Senator Jim Webb is the ideal Democrat; that being said, I don't think they need to completely abandon the entire Democratic platform like your post suggests—they can keep the liberal stance on most other issues like civil rights and abortion and still win.
Refuted it. It’s not possible to predict the future.You didn't refute it, you merely contradicted it.
We have established that you can not show a casual factor between not letting parents and doctors commit child abuse , with an increase in suicides.It would be painful to accept that your position causes young people harm. I understand your reluctance to come to terms with it.
The harmful effects of delayed puberty are not reversible.Reversible puberty blockers are designed to avoid this so that people can make informed decisions.
What planks in the 2024 platform do you believe were intended to have appeal for right-wing voters?I totally agree. Which is why Dems need to get the most votes with the best strategy. It's largely a mathematical equation. Whatever strategy they employ is going to sacrifice some voters for others. I propose an alliance between the Left and Center-Left. I feel this is sufficient to win most elections. Right-wing 'Moderates' like @Gatsby want to make an alliance with the Center and the Right-Wing. Which necessarily means sacrificing progressive voters.
In 2024, Dems felt that they could sideline progressive voters with a strong moral conscience and get right-wing voters. So that they could continue business as usual. The strategy failed. They were misled by a corrupt, self-serving political consulting class.
The strategy post-2024 is to blame progressives for the strategy that Gatsby Voters employed and lost against Trump twice with. And then continue on with the same strategy like nothing happened.
Um... it's a strategy.
Yawn. Happy to update you.Can be honest about it? No Dem supports this.
Now, there may not be many Dem politicians stupid enough to say the quiet part out loud-- America needs a new underclass-- but her "defense" of illegal immigrants is at base an endorsement of economic slavery.Speaking at Grace Baptist Church in Waterbury as part of their 125th anniversary program, [Jasmine] Crockett told the audience how she "had to go around the country and educate people about what immigrants do for this country, or the fact that we are a country of immigrants."
"The fact is, ain't none of y'all trying to go and farm right now," she continued to some laughter. "OK, so raise your hands."
After looking around and apparently finding none: "You not! You not! We done picking cotton!"
"We are," she continued, shrugging. "You can't pay us enough to find a plantation."
Yawn. Happy to update you.
Refuted it. It’s not possible to predict the future.
We have established that you can not show a casual factor between not letting parents and doctors commit child abuse , with an increase in suicides.
Refuted this already.The increase in mental depression and suicide attempts due to your anti-trans laws is happening now, not in the future.
Refuted already. It’s not possible to predict the future.Your saying it doesn't show causality when it in fact does, isnt an argument against it, simply contradicts it. To understand the difference between the two watch:
You don’t need a Dem to do that, Trump already stated the quiet part out loud when he said gee maybe farms and hotels shouldn’t be subject to ICE raids anymore.Yawn. Happy to update you.
Now, there may not be many Dem politicians stupid enough to say the quiet part out loud-- America needs a new underclass-- but her "defense" of illegal immigrants is at base an endorsement of economic slavery.
Refuted this already.
Refuted already. It’s not possible to predict the future.
You are like the proles in 1984.Some of us have progressed since junior high school.
Yawn. Happy to update you.
Now, there may not be many Dem politicians stupid enough to say the quiet part out loud-- America needs a new underclass-- but her "defense" of illegal immigrants is at base an endorsement of economic slavery.
Reality doesn’t care how you feel.Repetition does not turn your contradictions into arguments.
It wasn’t a try.Nice try though.
What planks in the 2024 platform do you believe were intended to have appeal for right-wing voters?
Repetition does not turn your contradictions into arguments.
Nice try though.
You are like the proles in 1984.
Your reality is whatever your masters tell you it is.
I never said either of those things.This, coming from someone who believes that trans athletes are taking over the world, and kids are getting sex change operations during school hours? Who is feeding you that crap?
I never said either of those things.
Why do so many of you leftist authoritarians pull this same dishonest shit?
I might as well make a claim that you demand mandatory sex change.
You might want to have one of your friends explain to you that I am not Trump.Ah, but trump made this claim, and more. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-children-surgeries-school/
This goes to my earlier point, that Republicans need to lie and exaggerate to get the rubes to take their side here. It's institutionalized transphobia. They are taking a subject that affects very few people and lying to make it into something the average rube voter cares deeply about. And here you are, arguing about trans kids, just like they wanted.
Do you believe what trump said here? Or do you not care that you are being lied to (pretty effectively, I might add)? My guess is that you don't know that you are being lied to, because you think that I'm being lied to. So go ahead and believe trump's wild claims, that kids are getting sex change operations while at school, and immigrants are eating our cats and dogs, and windmills cause cancer, and the Continental Army captured the airports during the Revolutionary War, and square all of that with the idea that it's my team doing the gaslighting and not yours. Good luck.
You might want to have one of your friends explain to you that I am not Trump.
How sad for you.
What would you do without your stupid straw men?Yet you are carrying his water at every opportunity.
Why are trans kids even on your radar?
What would you do without your stupid straw men?
Weird you come up with this excuse after all of our past discussions ON THIS EXACT MATTER.I didn't vote in the presidential.
You were part of the problem, I have said it all along. Now go and create some more threads complaining about Donny.And I represent one vote. Although I'm flattered that you think I have the ability to decide elections.
Since the context is this forum, yes, you are part of the current political discourse at DP, and your views, past and present are included....so....yeah."My" content? Are my posts here part of current political discourse?
No one said it was. This is such a weird diversion from your comment about losers and my response about Lost Causers being experts on losing, on how to deal with losing something over a century ago. But....whatever, it was a joke....and you respond by.... bringing up slavery!Well, there's the woman who claimed that Black people weren't going to pick cotton any more, and that this was why we need illegals, to be the new underclass to do shit jobs. But that wasn't a response to anything I said.
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?