No. But I believe the education system needs serious reforms though.
Mandatory public education should be eliminated. Vouchers are the way to go.
Utah lawmaker calls for end of compulsory education | Deseret News
SALT LAKE CITY — Compulsory education laws have resulted in parents disengaging themselves from the responsibility to oversee the education of their children and have caused schools to falter under the burden of being all things to all people.
Those points are among the arguments made by Sen. Aaron Osmond, R-South Jordan, in an article posted Friday on the blog of the Utah State Senate, in which Osmond called for the end of compulsory education in the state.
"Some parents act as if the responsibility to educate, and even care for their child, is primarily the responsibility of the public school system," Osmond wrote. "As a result, our teachers and schools have been forced to become surrogate parents, expected to do everything from behavioral counseling, to providing adequate nutrition, to teaching sex education, as well as ensuring full college and career readiness."
Osmond wrote further that in the current state of public education, teachers do not receive meaningful support from parents, while at the same time parents become frustrated that schools are not able to meet the individual needs of their children. Osmond told the Deseret News that there is a need to shift the public mindset to viewing learning as an opportunity as opposed to an obligation, while also reinforcing the idea of liberty and choice.
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Vouchers are better than what we have now but a full refund tax credit would be best. With vouchers there's more of a risk of government control. "Schools that accept our vouchers must teach (or indoctrinate); a,b,c,x,y,z." If its a tax credit, the parents pays the bill but is then directly refunded in full. Compare to someone donating money to a charity and getting a tax deduction vs. the control that would come with the government giving money directly to the charity.
But I think being educated at either an accredited school and/or students being able to meet annual testing standards should be mandatory up to 19 or completion of 12th grade, whichever comes first with voluntary education through a bachelors degree, indirectly funded by tax-payers and may be delayed once 12th grade is completed.
I have HUGE problems with compulsory education, where in the far past likely would not - when education was solely academic. It is not anymore. Here are the problems I have:
1. Liability to parents and children. At any time, the school can become law enforcement in the most extreme degree. A 10 year old child bites into a piece of bread the wrong way and the child is taken off in handcuffs because it looks like a gun and CPS is at the parent's house.
Some schools have become so radically liberal and so intensely hateful of such as the military, that any kid playing cops and robbers is treated as a terrorist and this put into the child's permanent record.
2. Political correctness. Political correctness has become the primary goal of many school districts. It is far more important that the children are taught to hate religion, love Obama, accept homosexuality as fine, etc etc - regardless of and despite of parents.
3. Teaching children to despise their parents. For many schools, if the parents are religious, conservative etc, the children will be required to be tested and give answers essentially declaring their parents are ignorant bigots to be despised.
4. Standardized tests. You child can be Einstein in mathematics or Stephen King in writing or one of the greatest of all artists, but lacking in another area will essentially obliterate a child's academic future.
5. Using schools to gain information on parents. Children are not given Miranda. Nor are parents even notified if a child is going to be questions. Little children can answer questions in ways they are suggested to answer.
6. Danger to the children. Most schools essentially advertise that all the children are unprotected and that would be a criminal offense for anyone to be able to be in a position to protect them. Requiring children be taken from the safety of their homes and put into an open and advertised free and unstoppable shooting gallery is not something any parent should be required to have their children essentially seized by the government for.
7. Shocking as it may be, some parents don't want their 13 year old given condoms and explained about "safe sex," when many (if not most) parents don't believe there is such a thing as a 13 year old having "safe" sex - neither psychologically or health-wise, and telling a 13 year old there is such a thing and giving tools to have it is, to them, is as corrupting and dangerous to their child as is possible.
In short, it no longer is just compulsory education. It is compulsory social, moral, ideological, political and both forced and tested indoctrination by any wackjob teacher or administrator, and in ways that can cause real and lifelong damage to the child's formal record - and that of the parents too.
I do not agree with the reasoning of the OP directly in that society and for the sake of the child an EDUCATION should be required. However, compulsory education to a specific school the government specifically requires should not be - because schools just aren't about education anymore. They are about indoctrination and they are about taking risks with your children's minds, morals and physical safety - which can be diametrically opposite and requiring students to express contempt of their parent(s) morals, values and home education.
And.. as a parent... KNOW YOUR RIGHTS. I cannot stress that enough.
Nope.I do not care if the child is home-schooled, goes to private school or to public school.Children need to be educated. Uneducated children grow up to ignorant adults who become a burden to tax payers. I could care less if someone's father or grandpa made it in life with only a elementary grade education or no education what so ever, this isn't the 1970s or 1980s.Heck my My grandpa only had a elementary school education, worked for my city's water and sewer department,owns his own house,worked his way up to supervisor position, saved up for retirement, and has a pension and social security and now he is living comfortable. Most people today will not be able to do that.Most employers today unless they only hire illegals are not going to hire someone with little to no education due to the fact the vast majority of working age people have at least high school diploma or a Good Enough Diploma(G.E.D.).Utah lawmaker calls for end of compulsory education | Deseret News
SALT LAKE CITY — Compulsory education laws have resulted in parents disengaging themselves from the responsibility to oversee the education of their children and have caused schools to falter under the burden of being all things to all people.
Those points are among the arguments made by Sen. Aaron Osmond, R-South Jordan, in an article posted Friday on the blog of the Utah State Senate, in which Osmond called for the end of compulsory education in the state.
"Some parents act as if the responsibility to educate, and even care for their child, is primarily the responsibility of the public school system," Osmond wrote. "As a result, our teachers and schools have been forced to become surrogate parents, expected to do everything from behavioral counseling, to providing adequate nutrition, to teaching sex education, as well as ensuring full college and career readiness."
Osmond wrote further that in the current state of public education, teachers do not receive meaningful support from parents, while at the same time parents become frustrated that schools are not able to meet the individual needs of their children. Osmond told the Deseret News that there is a need to shift the public mindset to viewing learning as an opportunity as opposed to an obligation, while also reinforcing the idea of liberty and choice.
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These days, EVERYTHING is a damn right. This is why so many kids these days are belligerent, undisciplined, and socially ignorant. Public schools have absolutely no power these days, and parents (by and large) simply don't give a damn about anything beyond their own noses.
Give schools more power and strip them away from parents who don't deserve it. If they don't like it, they can resort to homeschooling and pray that their kids don't turn 18 and become socially inept and intellectually inferior.
Or we can do the voucher thing and let the system pick winners and losers. Frankly, some kids these days have time wasted on them if you attempt to teach them anything beyond giving change to a dollar and pushing the right button on the register.
Vouchers yes, tax credits no. Tax credits are just favoritism for the rich. I would guess that well over half of parents of school age child don't have the income for which a tax credit would have any value whatsoever.
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