Should asylum be easier to get?

[Camlon]

If an Arab father kills his daughter for having a job and boyfriend, that Arab father will go to jail.

Just because their culture comes with them, doesn't mean their laws do, as well. They'll have to modify their culture to accommodate for our laws, or they'll have to work to get the laws changed.

You can't use religion, or values, or anything else as your sole reason for disregarding the law. Here is my proof:

REYNOLDS V. UNITED STATES, 98 U. S. 145 :: Volume 98 :: 1878 :: Full Text :: US Supreme Court Cases from Justia & Oyez

Sure, he will go to jail. But he doesn't have to kill her. He can disown her and she don't want to lose her family. Secondly, don't forget about propaganda. She may think it is wrong to get a white boyfriend, without anyone forcing her. Secondly, they can try to get the laws changed. This can happen through threat of violence or just from elections. Even today, are muslims affecting US laws.

However, the biggest factor that we see in Europe is that they distanse themselves from the society, because Europeans don't want to live next to them, don't respect their values and they don't respect European values either. However other muslims do, and they have a lot in comon, and therefore they group together. Most of them do follow the laws of the country, but they are living in muslim ghettoes, only socialize with other muslims and the Mosque is used to educate the kids outside school. If you look at previous migration to the US, and the hispanic immigration. You will see that they kept a lot of their culture and lived in their own areas. They similarity to other Americans made assimilation easier, but muslims are very different from Americans and will isolate themselves even more. It won't work and your policies will destory America.

 

[middleagedgamer]

He can disown her and she don't want to lose her family.

That can (and often does) happen in American culture. Immigration status has nothing to do with that.

Secondly, don't forget about propaganda. She may think it is wrong to get a white boyfriend, without anyone forcing her.

Again, this happens with Americans, so why are you tying it with immigration, when it ha nothing to do with immigration?

Secondly, they can try to get the laws changed.

They won't succeed without the approval of the majority of society.

This can happen through threat of violence

They'll go to jail.

or just from elections.

One person's vote isn't going to make or break an entire election.

Even today, are muslims affecting US laws.

No, they're not. Terrorists are affecting US laws.

However, the biggest factor that we see in Europe is that they distanse themselves from the society, because Europeans don't want to live next to them, don't respect their values and they don't respect European values either.

That doesn't mean we can't send the police in there to protect the women and infidels.

If a group of Muslims come here, and set up their own city that is majority muslim, the state itself won't just sit back and let them kill their women. Eventually, the state in which that city is located will step in.

However other muslims do, and they have a lot in comon, and therefore they group together. Most of them do follow the laws of the country, but they are living in muslim ghettoes, only socialize with other muslims and the Mosque is used to educate the kids outside school. If you look at previous migration to the US, and the hispanic immigration. You will see that they kept a lot of their culture and lived in their own areas. They similarity to other Americans made assimilation easier, but muslims are very different from Americans and will isolate themselves even more. It won't work and your policies will destory America.

It's their right to follow their own culture, as long as they don't violate American laws.

And, just because they're "isolated" doesn't mean it will destroy America. Ghettos have existed in American for generations, and America hasn't been "destroyed" by them.

 

[Camlon]

That can (and often does) happen in American culture. Immigration status has nothing to do with that.

Bull****, and you know that very well.

Again, this happens with Americans, so why are you tying it with immigration, when it ha nothing to do with immigration?

So white parents use propaganda to make their daughter not have a white boyfriend. You are making no sense. This is what happends in Europe, so I don't see why it shouldn't happen in America.

They won't succeed without the approval of the majority of society.

With free migration, then they will be the majority, and even if they don't have the majority, they can still inflence politics.

They'll go to jail.

Well, the violence has already happened.

No, they're not. Terrorists are affecting US laws.

Sorry let me state this again. Terrorist muslims are affecting US laws.

That doesn't mean we can't send the police in there to protect the women and infidels.

If a group of Muslims come here, and set up their own city that is majority muslim, the state itself won't just sit back and let them kill their women. Eventually, the state in which that city is located will step in.

You don't get it! Most muslims don't kill women. But a majority muslim district will be a low wage, high crime community. Not only that, it will be religous extremist as well and they will give less money to the state, than what they spend. How would the American government function, if we don't get enough revenue? Not all cultures are the same!

And, just because they're "isolated" doesn't mean it will destroy America. Ghettos have existed in American for generations, and America hasn't been "destroyed" by them.

That's because most of US has not been ghettoes. Do you think ghettoes are positive for America?

 

[middleagedgamer]

Bull****, and you know that very well.

Prove it.

So white parents use propaganda to make their daughter not have a white boyfriend.

I have seen my own parents use propoganda to convince my sister to not have a black boyfriend.

Same difference.

You are making no sense.

No, YOU'RE the one making no sense.

This is what happends in Europe, so I don't see why it shouldn't happen in America.

Replace "shouldn't" with "doesn't," and you've got my thoughts on the topic, to a tee.

With free migration, then they will be the majority, and even if they don't have the majority, they can still inflence politics.

There is always the Supreme Court to step in and tell them no. They'll need a supermajority to do that.

Besides, the Arabic men wouldn't be the ones singled out for political asylum, since they are the ones who have the power in the Middle East! It's the women who would have an easier path to asylum, because they're oppressed.

Well, the violence has already happened.

And they should go to jail for it.

Sorry let me state this again. Terrorist muslims are affecting US laws.

Muslims aren't the terrorists. The terrorists just happen to be Muslims.

Give me one good reason why Bin Laden should be regarded as any more of a representation of the average Muslim as Fred Phelps should be regarded as a representation of the average Christian.

You don't get it! Most muslims don't kill women.

Prove it.

Not only that, it will be religous extremist as well and they will give less money to the state, than what they spend.

You are completely missing the point. We would only give an easier path to asylum for those who want to get AWAY from that kind of extremist lifestyle!

That's because most of US has not been ghettoes. Do you think ghettoes are positive for America?

Depends on perspective.

Ghettos mean lower land values. However, there are two sides to every coin. Lower land values can also mean that more people can afford their own land, and that is a good thing.