Should anti-military activist (let alone any activist) be allowed access to schools?

Real Korimyr #9 · Jan 7, 2009

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Blackdog said:
Reading, math and arithmetic etc. I can teach my child about the rest. No need for social mechanic's in school, but thank you.

Selling yourself short if you don't think you can teach your child those things as well.

Black Dog · Jan 7, 2009

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Korimyr the Rat said:
Selling yourself short if you don't think you can teach your child those things as well.

I could have this is true. I paid for my daughter to go to a private Catholic school. I wanted her to have socialization skills (no offense to home schooling as it works as well) above and beyond just my wife and I.

I am now the proud father of a Bradly University BA in environmental engineering working in Orlando as an engineer.

No excuse for letting the public schools teach her crud that was my job to teach.

jamesrage · Jan 7, 2009

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Ikari said:
If the military and military recruiters are allowed into the school, then yes the other side should be allowed in too.

Anti-Military douches are activist,not the other side. The other side would be other companies competing for potential employees. Anti-military douches under the guises of peace activist are only there to spread some anti-military BS and propaganda.

Wessexman · Jan 7, 2009

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jamesrage said:
Anti-Military douches are activist,not the other side. The other side would be other companies competing for potential employees. Anti-military douches under the guises of peace activist are only there to spread some anti-military BS and propaganda.

Ah I do love a good rant now and then.

There are shades of anti-military opinion as there are shades of pro-military opinion. Personally there are shades of pacifism that I don't much care for but I don't much like those who love the military and militarism either. Militarism has rarely been a value that has been good for liberty in history.

I don't know about activists but I'd certainly like to see a measured distrust of militarism in my children and English society at large.

LaMidRighter · Jan 8, 2009

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Wessexman said:
I don't know about activists but I'd certainly like to see a measured distrust of militarism in my children and English society at large.

I would say the best situation is somewhere in between, that is, only using force honorably and when necessary, extreme pacifism, while admittedly admirable, can be dangerous in the face of the truly vicious, however, as you have described, too extreme on the militaristic side and we have totalitarianism, expansionism, and imperialism, which are all known freedom killers.

Vader · Jan 11, 2009

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Schools are designed to educate our children.

Activism has no place in schools. If non-students want to be active in politics, they can do it someplace else.

Hatuey · Jan 11, 2009

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LaMidRighter said:
I would say the best situation is somewhere in between, that is, only using force honorably and when necessary, extreme pacifism, while admittedly admirable, can be dangerous in the face of the truly vicious, however, as you have described, too extreme on the militaristic side and we have totalitarianism, expansionism, and imperialism, which are all known freedom killers.

What exactly is 'extreme pacifism'? I define it as a complete unwillingness to fight back regardless of what your oppressors say or do. In what way is that dangerous? The few examples of 'extreme pacifism' I can think of are by individuals and not nations. Gandhi and MLK Jr. are some and I'm sure there many others but the ones that come to mind managed to achieve their goals in the end through 'extreme pacifism'. No nation truly practices 'extreme pacifism'. Only individuals can practice 'extreme pacifism'. So how exactly is it dangerous?

LaMidRighter · Jan 12, 2009

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Hatuey said:
Hatuey said:

What exactly is 'extreme pacifism'? I define it as a complete unwillingness to fight back regardless of what your oppressors say or do.

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In what way is that dangerous?

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It can get you harmed or killed if you are being attacked, other than that, living peacefully is admirable.

The few examples of 'extreme pacifism' I can think of are by individuals and not nations. Gandhi and MLK Jr. are some and I'm sure there many others but the ones that come to mind managed to achieve their goals in the end through 'extreme pacifism'. No nation truly practices 'extreme pacifism'. Only individuals can practice 'extreme pacifism'. So how exactly is it dangerous?

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Very few examples of non-violent resistance end well, however Ghandi and MLK jr. were good examples, typically though, leaders of such movements are not charismatic enough to convey a convincing message of tolerance of the suffering that not fighting back brings, and again, extreme pacifism can be dangerous, if the person assualting you doesn't mind hurting you, or if in fact that is their goal to begin with.

Should anti-military activist (let alone any activist) be allowed access to schools?