Should a president have to be impeached and removed from office before being charged with crimes? (1 Viewer)

[bongsaway]

As a lawyer, you should know how to read more closely.

The issue was raised in the Watergate era and the resolution was that Nixon had to be removed from office before he could be prosecuted. Ford's blanket indemnity quashed all federal lines but the precedent was established. Show me anything contradictory because the Republicans felt bound in the 1990s.


Your reading issues are not my concern.

You are wrong and probably know it.

You are still not showing us where in the constitution it says any such thing. Raising the issued during Watergate does not put it into the constitution.

 

[Slartibartfast]

The Constitution outlines impeachment as the way to deal with a President. The general position has been sitting Presidents can't be indicted. We will have to see what the SCOTUS comes up with.
Clearly if a President has no immunity, a lot of American Presidents are going to be in danger of being in court.

Good. Presidents should be in danger of being in court. It will help make sure they behave.

We need fewer presidents like Nixon and Trump and more presidents like the other 44 who obeyed the law.

 

[Slartibartfast]

As a lawyer, you should know how to read more closely.

The issue was raised in the Watergate era and the resolution was that Nixon had to be removed from office before he could be prosecuted. Ford's blanket indemnity quashed all federal lines but the precedent was established. Show me anything contradictory because the Republicans felt bound in the 1990s.


Your reading issues are not my concern.

You are wrong and probably know it.

Nixon had to be pardoned after resigning. Also he was never impeached.

Your citation of Nixon leads to the opposite conclusion of your claim.

 

[Jay59]

Good. Presidents should be in danger of being in court.

The opposite.

We want Presidents to be able to do their job without distractions.

It will help make sure they behave.

That is why impeachment exists.

We need fewer presidents like Nixon and Trump and more presidents like the other 44 who obeyed the law.

Don't forget Clinton.

The other 43 did not all obey the law. Every administration has scandals, even Obama who claimed otherwise.

Nixon had to be pardoned after resigning. Also he was never impeached.

Your citation of Nixon leads to the opposite conclusion of your claim.

It shouldn't.

Since they could not prosecute Nixon while he was in office it sets the bar very high.

 

[BabaVoss]

Impeachment is a political process, and has nothing to do with our legal system.

This argument that impeachment has to happen before the legal system is able to kick in is absurd. The idea is so full of holes as to be ridiculous.

 

[j brown's body]

Should a president have to be impeached and removed from office before being charged with crimes?​

Looking at the history of presidential impeachment convictions (there aren't any), You might as well give him immunity.

 

[j brown's body]

Impeachment is a political process, and has nothing to do with our legal system.

This argument that impeachment has to happen before the legal system is able to kick in is absurd. The idea is so full of holes as to be ridiculous.

They used to argue it was a political process. Now they argue it's a legal one.

This reminds of the argument we heard all of Trump's first term: you can't indict a sitting president.

Now, out of office, they argue you can't indict a former one either.

Everything changes depending on Trump's needs at the time.

 

[BabaVoss]

They used to argue it was a political process. Now they argue it's a legal one.

This reminds of the argument we heard all of Trump's first term: you can't indict a sitting president.

Now, out of office, they argue you can't indict a former one either.

Everything changes depending on Trump's needs at the time.

EXACTLY. Trump is desperately trying to be untouchable in any way, because he is guilty is so much. His only chance to avoid conviction is to gain power again, and then abuse the power of the office again to make all these cases go away. He can’t, because some are state cases - and he will not win.